Florida teen fights expulsion and cri...

Florida teen fights expulsion and criminal charges for same sex relationship

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Since: Mar 11

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#2 May 17, 2013
Pierre, why are you so hateful towards GLBTs and our supporters? What has a GLBT ever done to YOU, personally?

Oh, and you seriously need reading comprehension classes. The teen involved is an 18-year-old young WOMAN.
SirAndrew

Honolulu, HI

#3 May 17, 2013
Pierre, you are a perfect example of why abortion should be allowed until the 200th trimester.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#5 May 17, 2013
Sounds like we need to get protesters outside the youngrr girl's house until the parents grip reality, or at least get a taste of what the other girl is going through. Find out where they work and protest.

Had this been a boy, these parents would have said nothing.

Since: Sep 10

Earth

#7 May 17, 2013
Dragon Breath wrote:
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Queers are a perfect example as to why abortions should be allowed. You birth defective freaks.
Wrong, chump. Those with low intelligence grow up to be rightwingnut looneytunes like you. If anygroup needs to be culled, it's yours. You're lowering the average IQ.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...

http://newsone.com/1829045/live-science-study...

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Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#8 May 17, 2013
An 18 year old, and adult, and a 15 year old, a child. If both these people were male, people would be screaming for his head.

And even MORE stupidly, she apparently made her relationship very public.

I don't have sympathy for her.

If an 18 year old, a adult, is having sex with a 15 or 16 year old, a child, that is child molestation at best, and rape at worst. She's a criminal.

AND she is probably going to be labeled a child sex-offender for life. She should have thought long and hard about the age difference before getting involved in something like this.
Half Man Half Horse

Alpharetta, GA

#9 May 18, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
An 18 year old, and adult, and a 15 year old, a child. If both these people were male, people would be screaming for his head.
And even MORE stupidly, she apparently made her relationship very public.
I don't have sympathy for her.
If an 18 year old, a adult, is having sex with a 15 or 16 year old, a child, that is child molestation at best, and rape at worst. She's a criminal.
AND she is probably going to be labeled a child sex-offender for life. She should have thought long and hard about the age difference before getting involved in something like this.
The only way the freaky morons can prove the girls had sex is if one of the girls becomes pregnant with the other girl's baby
What the FFFF

Watsonville, CA

#11 May 18, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
An 18 year old, and adult, and a 15 year old, a child. If both these people were male, people would be screaming for his head.
And even MORE stupidly, she apparently made her relationship very public.
I don't have sympathy for her.
If an 18 year old, a adult, is having sex with a 15 or 16 year old, a child, that is child molestation at best, and rape at worst. She's a criminal.
AND she is probably going to be labeled a child sex-offender for life. She should have thought long and hard about the age difference before getting involved in something like this.
Never heard of "the high school rule"?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#12 May 18, 2013
She wasn't 18 when they began their relationship. It will probably be argued that the law can't demand that people end relationships under such circumstances. Also, they have to prove there was sex involved--something pretty difficult to prove in lesbian relationships.
Fa-Foxy wrote:
An 18 year old, and adult, and a 15 year old, a child. If both these people were male, people would be screaming for his head.
And even MORE stupidly, she apparently made her relationship very public.
I don't have sympathy for her.
If an 18 year old, a adult, is having sex with a 15 or 16 year old, a child, that is child molestation at best, and rape at worst. She's a criminal.
AND she is probably going to be labeled a child sex-offender for life. She should have thought long and hard about the age difference before getting involved in something like this.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#13 May 18, 2013
What the FFFF wrote:
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Never heard of "the high school rule"?
Nope. What's that ? A rule that says adults can rape high schoolers ?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#14 May 18, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
She wasn't 18 when they began their relationship. It will probably be argued that the law can't demand that people end relationships under such circumstances. Also, they have to prove there was sex involved--something pretty difficult to prove in lesbian relationships.
<quoted text>
Well, apparently, one or both of the people involved in this relationship blabbed pretty openly about it.

And if both of these people had been male, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all, because nearly everyone would agree that it is legally child molestation.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#15 May 18, 2013
When it comes to sex between adults and children (which is legal under some circumstances), one can argue about what the ages should be in the definition, but one cannot persuasively argue that there should be NO lines drawn at all regarding ages, in the legal definitions to criminalize sex between adults and children.

In this case, the lines ARE drawn clearly in the law as to what defines a criminal offense with regards to sex between adults and children and this person clearly crossed that line.

Since: Mar 09

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#17 May 18, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Nope. What's that ? A rule that says adults can rape high schoolers ?
Teens within 3yrs of age of each other are, in most States, usually adjudged to not have engaged in criminal activity.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#18 May 18, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Teens within 3yrs of age of each other are, in most States, usually adjudged to not have engaged in criminal activity.
Well, apparently that is not the law in Florida.

Since: Mar 09

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#19 May 18, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Well, apparently that is not the law in Florida.
It's Florida.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#20 May 18, 2013
The kids aren't the problem; the younger girl's parents are, Where were they before the other girl turned 18? Again, a contention will be if the law can force a relation that WAS legal to end over a legal change of circumstances? Aging is legal, after all, and the actual age difference between them hasn't changed.
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Well, apparently, one or both of the people involved in this relationship blabbed pretty openly about it.
And if both of these people had been male, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all, because nearly everyone would agree that it is legally child molestation.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#21 May 18, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
An 18 year old, and adult, and a 15 year old, a child. If both these people were male, people would be screaming for his head.
And even MORE stupidly, she apparently made her relationship very public.
I don't have sympathy for her.
If an 18 year old, a adult, is having sex with a 15 or 16 year old, a child, that is child molestation at best, and rape at worst. She's a criminal.
AND she is probably going to be labeled a child sex-offender for life. She should have thought long and hard about the age difference before getting involved in something like this.
You pinhead. She was under 18 when the relationship started.

I guarantee you if the other girl was dating a boy who JUST RECENTLY TURNED 18 her parents would probably gladly throw a birthday party for the occasion.

This case is as ridiculous as the florist in WA suing the State's attorney for religious discrimination because they charged her with religious discrimination.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#22 May 18, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Well, apparently, one or both of the people involved in this relationship blabbed pretty openly about it.
And if both of these people had been male, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all, because nearly everyone would agree that it is legally child molestation.
If both these people were male we WOULD be having this discussion. Heck it would probably be getting more press than it is.

You are such a twit!

Just because they were dating is not proof they were having sex. Geez you're as bad as the police claiming a woman carrying more than one condom is OBVIOUSLY a prostitute!

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#23 May 18, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Well, apparently that is not the law in Florida.
Wrong!

794.05 Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors.--

(1) A person 24 years of age or older who engages in sexual activity with a person 16 or 17 years of age commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, "sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; however, sexual activity does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.

(2) The provisions of this section do not apply to a person 16 or 17 years of age who has had the disabilities of nonage removed under chapter 743.

(3) The victim's prior sexual conduct is not a relevant issue in a prosecution under this section.

(4) If an offense under this section directly results in the victim giving birth to a child, paternity of that child shall be established as described in chapter 742. If it is determined that the offender is the father of the child, the offender must pay child support pursuant to the child support guidelines described in chapter 61. History.--RS 2598; s. 1, ch. 4965, 1901; GS 3521; s. 1, ch. 6974, 1915; s. 1, ch. 7732, 1918; RGS 5409; s. 1, ch. 8596, 1921; CGL 7552; s. 1, ch. 61-109; s. 759, ch. 71-136; s. 1, ch. 96-409.

794.05 Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors.--

(1) A person 24 years of age or older who engages in sexual activity with a person 16 or 17 years of age commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, "sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; however, sexual activity does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.

(2) The provisions of this section do not apply to a person 16 or 17 years of age who has had the disabilities of nonage removed under chapter 743.

(3) The victim's prior sexual conduct is not a relevant issue in a prosecution under this section.

(4) If an offense under this section directly results in the victim giving birth to a child, paternity of that child shall be established as described in chapter 742. If it is determined that the offender is the father of the child, the offender must pay child support pursuant to the child support guidelines described in chapter 61. History.--RS 2598; s. 1, ch. 4965, 1901; GS 3521; s. 1, ch. 6974, 1915; s. 1, ch. 7732, 1918; RGS 5409; s. 1, ch. 8596, 1921; CGL 7552; s. 1, ch. 61-109; s. 759, ch. 71-136; s. 1, ch. 96-409.

http://www.ageofconsent.com/florida.htm

Statutory Rape Laws

For someone over the age of consent, sex with an under-aged person could mean charges for statutory rape in the United States. It is illegal in every state to knowingly have sex with a person between the ages of 12 and 16 if you are at least four years older than that person.

A person cannot legally have sex if she is under the age of 16 in Florida.

Read more: Laws on Age of Sexual Consent in the State of Florida | eHow http://www.ehow.com/list_6495838_laws-sexual-...

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Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#24 May 18, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>You pinhead. She was under 18 when the relationship started.
I guarantee you if the other girl was dating a boy who JUST RECENTLY TURNED 18 her parents would probably gladly throw a birthday party for the occasion.
This case is as ridiculous as the florist in WA suing the State's attorney for religious discrimination because they charged her with religious discrimination.
1. If the law in Florida states that an adult, which this young woman apparently was, cannot legally have sex with a 15 year old child, then she should be prosecuted.

2. And both of these people involved in this relationship apparently blabbed to many people about it, so they should have kept their mouths shut.

3. I'm surprised so many people posting here are rushing to defend a child molester. And since LGBT people are so often wrongly linked to child molestation, I am surprised that you would not favor a STRICT interpretation of the law, just to prevent such untrue accusations against us.
Straight Sh00ter

Topeka, KS

#25 May 18, 2013
Faggotry should be a crime.

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