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New Study: No Difference Between Gay & Straight Adoptive Parents

There are 197 comments on the EDGE story from Jul 29, 2013, titled New Study: No Difference Between Gay & Straight Adoptive Parents. In it, EDGE reports that:

A recently released study by the Williams Institute confirms there is no difference in the behavioral outcomes of adopted children raised in same-sex households when compared to those raised by heterosexual couples.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#85 Jul 31, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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This is for DNF also;
Here is the study I mentioned by Dr. Marks that looked at previous studies;
http://www.elsevier.com/about/press-releases/
research-and-journals/new-stud ies-challenge-established-view s-about-the-development-of-chi ldren-raised-by-gay-or-lesbian -parents
KittenKoder wrote:
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You supporting Regnerus only betrays your dishonesty. You are a liar.
Honey, that isn't the Regnerus study.

The fact that you didn't know that disqualifies you from judging the Regnerus study.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#86 Jul 31, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
This is for DNF also;
Here is the study I mentioned by Dr. Marks that looked at previous studies;
http://www.elsevier.com/about/press-releases/
research-and-journals/new-stud ies-challenge-established-view s-about-the-development-of-chi ldren-raised-by-gay-or-lesbian -parents
<quoted text>
Honey, that isn't the Regnerus study.
The fact that you didn't know that disqualifies you from judging the Regnerus study.
You supporting and defending Regnerus betrays your level of dishonesty, all information from you is now discarded. You're welcome.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#87 Jul 31, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
You supporting and defending Regnerus betrays your level of dishonesty, all information from you is now discarded. You're welcome.
Bye.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#88 Jul 31, 2013
http://culture-of-life.org/e-brief/
critique-critiques-regnerus-pa renting-study-and-what-really- best-children

Conclusion

Upon reasoned study, none of the critiques proffered diminishes the strength of the Regnerus study results. Allegations of ethical violations and collusion with funding sources were investigated and dismissed by the University of Texas and his research methodology affirmed by ample precedents in research published by many other credible and distinguished scholars. The critiques appear to be a thinly veiled attempt to promote a political agenda rather than a logical, reasonable appraisal of the science. Regnerus, among other things, validated that the benefits for children being raised in a traditional family are consistent, and superior to any other alternative structure. The size, diversity, and randomness of his sample suggest that these findings are not going to shift and are not an artifact of his study (though if and when his findings are replicated in other studies, the credibility of the data will be strengthened). Of course, we all know the single parent who has done an excellent job with his or her children, as well as children of divorce who have managed to heal from the wounds of family dissolution; no doubt there will be children raised by same-sex couples who defy the odds. But it is unjust to distort the truth of what is best and most likely to lead to children’s flourishing, for the sake of promoting an agenda or coercing societal changes to fit one’s view, and risking harm to any child.

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#89 Aug 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
http://culture-of-life.org/e-b rief/
critique-critiques-regnerus-pa renting-study-and-what-really- best-children
Conclusion
......
Not a scientific peer review. Try again.

An opinion piece form a like minded source doesn't hold much water.

Let's see some links to scientific peer review. Sources that pulled apart his data, and his conclusions, and checked them for accuracy and authenticity.

Good luck with that.

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#90 Aug 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
This is for DNF also;
Here is the study I mentioned by Dr. Marks that looked at previous studies;
http://www.elsevier.com/about/press-releases/
research-and-journals/new-stud ies-challenge-established-view s-about-the-development-of-chi ldren-raised-by-gay-or-lesbian -parents
<quoted text>
Honey, that isn't the Regnerus study.
The fact that you didn't know that disqualifies you from judging the Regnerus study.
Provide the specific findings of Dr Loren Marks published studies. Oh wait, there are none. Dr marks just looked at existing studies and didn't like them.

Try again.

Lets try again - prove that the Regnereus study actually studied stable gay couples and their children, and matched them with results from stable straight couples.

Oops. He forgot to actually study gay couples and their kids at all.

lides

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#91 Aug 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
'Pilloried'?
Did liberal funding disqualify lesbian studies?
The fact is, NFSS published its methods and funding publically. Something only ONE lesbian family study chose to do.
What gays did with NFSS was simply a gay troll hog pile. Disgusting.
The methodology employes to derive the results were not also in question, and the study was peer reviewed, not peer eviscerated.

See the difference?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#92 Aug 1, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Not a scientific peer review. Try again.
An opinion piece form a like minded source doesn't hold much water.
Let's see some links to scientific peer review. Sources that pulled apart his data, and his conclusions, and checked them for accuracy and authenticity.
Good luck with that.
Still a peer, and good, fair evaluation.

The peer review echo metates him of all charges.

Look it up.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#93 Aug 1, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Provide the specific findings of Dr Loren Marks published studies. Oh wait, there are none. Dr marks just looked at existing studies and didn't like them.
Try again.
Lets try again - prove that the Regnereus study actually studied stable gay couples and their children, and matched them with results from stable straight couples.
Oops. He forgot to actually study gay couples and their kids at all.
Calm down.

He studied the studies. He evaluated their methods. It is a peer review of multiple studies.

It is validation of what the Slate article talked about.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#94 Aug 1, 2013
lides wrote:
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The methodology employes to derive the results were not also in question, and the study was peer reviewed, not peer eviscerated.
See the difference?
So? Both must be considered.
Rose Feratu

Hoboken, NJ

#95 Aug 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
http://culture-of-life.org/e-b rief/
critique-critiques-regnerus-pa renting-study-and-what-really- best-children
Conclusion
Upon reasoned study, none of the critiques proffered diminishes the strength of the Regnerus study results. Allegations of ethical violations and collusion with funding sources were investigated and dismissed by the University of Texas and his research methodology affirmed by ample precedents in research published by many other credible and distinguished scholars. The critiques appear to be a thinly veiled attempt to promote a political agenda rather than a logical, reasonable appraisal of the science. Regnerus, among other things, validated that the benefits for children being raised in a traditional family are consistent, and superior to any other alternative structure. The size, diversity, and randomness of his sample suggest that these findings are not going to shift and are not an artifact of his study (though if and when his findings are replicated in other studies, the credibility of the data will be strengthened). Of course, we all know the single parent who has done an excellent job with his or her children, as well as children of divorce who have managed to heal from the wounds of family dissolution; no doubt there will be children raised by same-sex couples who defy the odds. But it is unjust to distort the truth of what is best and most likely to lead to children’s flourishing, for the sake of promoting an agenda or coercing societal changes to fit one’s view, and risking harm to any child.
The fact that you are sticking up for Regnerus' bogus "study" proves beyond a reasonable doubt that you know NOTHING about acceptable methodology.

It isn't over, either. The fool that oversaw the phony "peer review" is about to get kicked out of the ASA.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#99 Aug 1, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Not a scientific peer review. Try again.
An opinion piece form a like minded source doesn't hold much water.
Let's see some links to scientific peer review. Sources that pulled apart his data, and his conclusions, and checked them for accuracy and authenticity.
Good luck with that.
"Those who don't have anything else going for them can live on hate for a long time. It is their main motivating spirit."
~ J. Pearsall

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#100 Aug 1, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Provide the specific findings of Dr Loren Marks published studies. Oh wait, there are none. Dr marks just looked at existing studies and didn't like them.
Try again.
Lets try again - prove that the Regnereus study actually studied stable gay couples and their children, and matched them with results from stable straight couples.
Oops. He forgot to actually study gay couples and their kids at all.
Marks looked at existing studies and exposed the weakneses. No different than what was done with Regnerus, only fairer. Did you look at the study?

Regnerus tried to find stable ss couples and could not. That isn't a failure of the study, it is a failure of ss couples!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#101 Aug 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
http://culture-of-life.org/e-b rief/
critique-critiques-regnerus-pa renting-study-and-what-really- best-children
...
Still defending the proven falsified report using non-scientific sources as your "evidence." You have no limit to your willingness to lie. Regnerus lied, he admitted it, he admitted to using fallacious parameters, he even admitted to being bought out. The only reason he even does these things is for money, and has admitted to manipulating the data the same way pollsters do for that very reason.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#102 Aug 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Marks looked at existing studies and exposed the weakneses. No different than what was done with Regnerus, only fairer. Did you look at the study?
Regnerus tried to find stable ss couples and could not. That isn't a failure of the study, it is a failure of ss couples!
Now you are just being foolish.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#103 Aug 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you are just being foolish.
feeding trolls is not always the best thing to do.

Expose them to sunlight by pointing out to others their lies and let them turn to stone and starve.
Lucas

Los Angeles, CA

#104 Aug 1, 2013
I see a queer anywhere near a kid I stomp the queer into the dirt!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#105 Aug 1, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>feeding trolls is not always the best thing to do.
Expose them to sunlight by pointing out to others their lies and let them turn to stone and starve.
That sort of requires feeding them. ;)

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#106 Aug 1, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>Marks looked at existing studies and exposed the weakneses. No different than what was done with Regnerus, only fairer. Did you look at the study?

Regnerus tried to find stable ss couples and could not. That isn't a failure of the study, it is a failure of ss couples!
Of course Kmart is here, and still peddling the same discredited study.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#107 Aug 1, 2013
Lucas wrote:
I see a queer anywhere near a kid I stomp the queer into the dirt!
Good job!
That's a great way to get arrested and save the rest of society from your lunacy!

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