ACLU Asks Court To Strike Down Arkansas Parenting Ban

Jan 20, 2009 Full story: www.acluarkansas.org 3,389

"Over A Dozen Families Affected By Act 1 Step Forward To File Lawsuit"

The American Civil Liberties Union [a few weeks ago] filed a lawsuit seeking to strike down a new law that bans any unmarried person who lives with a partner from serving as an adoptive or foster parent in the state of Arkansas.

A link to the entire press release by the ACLU of Arkansas is attached -- and from that press release there is links to other interesting information including biographies of the plaintiff families. Full Story
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#1 Jan 20, 2009
I personally hope that they are sucessful...

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Paragould, AR

#2 Jan 20, 2009
I have to disagree on this.
guesswho

Paragould, AR

#3 Jan 20, 2009
guesswho wrote:
I have to disagree on this.
So who are you????

I can answer for myself THANK YOU!!!

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#4 Jan 20, 2009
Is there 2 diffent people posting under the name "guesswho" LOL?

Or is this one person just trying to make fun of me?
guesswho

Paragould, AR

#5 Jan 20, 2009
What- wrote:
Is there 2 diffent people posting under the name "guesswho" LOL?
Or is this one person just trying to make fun of me?
No just me, and I'm on your side!
guesswho

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#6 Jan 20, 2009
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No just me, and I'm on your side!
GOTCHA!!!! Have your fun!!! I'm not posting anymore.
guesswho

Paragould, AR

#7 Jan 20, 2009
Hope you're still having fun, my little shawdow!!! Some people have to go to work.
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Ash Flat, AR

#8 Jan 20, 2009
The ACLU needs to stay out this. This is a state decision and should be left to the people of the state.
If it is a bad decision then it can be placed back on the ballot. The senate and house make the laws but the ACLU and others think that laws are created by judges.

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#9 Jan 20, 2009
ACLU who wrote:
The ACLU needs to stay out this. This is a state decision and should be left to the people of the state.
If it is a bad decision then it can be placed back on the ballot. The senate and house make the laws but the ACLU and others think that laws are created by judges.
Your post above doesn't even seem coherent.

You say that the "senate and the house make the laws" -- yet you defend laws that were created by popular vote by the people (Act 1 was not passed by the Housae and Senate).

You are wrong though -- the legislature is not the only place that laws have come from (and it has NEVER been the only place that laws have come from).

And the ACLU's claim is that that Act conflicts with the Constitution (and it is the Courts that make that decision, not popular demand).

Laws even come directly from the Executive branch such as the governor and president (in the form of administrative regulations)-- and the governor or president has the sole authority to take it upon himself or herself to veto (strike down) something voted in by the House and Henate of either a state or the U.S. as Governors and Presidents have to approve laws created by the legislatures.

And the Courts interpret rules created by the legislative and executive branches -- and if it determines that a rule does not meet constitutional requirements it can invalidate a law.

And the Courts can also (and have always been able to) create law itself BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ISSUE OF ACT 1 (as there it is deciding if it is Constitutional or not)-- this is called the "Common Law" system which we have had since the countries founding...in fact we brought all English "common law" (court-made law) with us from England and adopted it...and although courts are empowered to make these laws, leglislatures can chage or abolished those laws as long as the legislation is consitutional...

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#10 Jan 20, 2009
And actually they tried to pass the laws in Act 1 through the Arkansas State Legislature last year and it failed to pass and Governor Bebee had even said that there was constitutional problems with it...
DILLIGAF

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#11 Jan 20, 2009
It was voted on and passed end of issue. You and your liberal friends need to get over it. Do something constructive like get a job.

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#12 Jan 20, 2009
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It was voted on and passed end of issue. You and your liberal friends need to get over it. Do something constructive like get a job.
No, that is not the end of the issue.

The majority cannot vote to have the government violate the Constitution (as such a restriction on the power of the people and it's government was the very point of the Bill of Rights).
DILLIGAF

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#13 Jan 20, 2009
Oh so peoples votes don't mean anything if they disagree with you liberals. When the bill of rights was written their wasn't the psycho liberals around like we have today.

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#14 Jan 20, 2009
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Oh so peoples votes don't mean anything if they disagree with you liberals. When the bill of rights was written their wasn't the psycho liberals around like we have today.
That's not what I said -- I said that the Bill of Rights is not changeable by popular opinion (not even if 100% of voters wanted it to change). That was the very point of the Bill of Rights.

...and I am just going to continue to ignore your blatant personal attacks (as I have been doing lately with you).
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Blytheville, AR

#15 Jan 20, 2009
Yeah Liberals amaze me sometimes..they pull things out they say are in the Constitution..where is this in the Constitution? It's the same as saying we have seperation of church and state, which is not anywhere in the Constitution, it was in a letter from Jefferson, and he wasn't talking about taking the church out of Government. The ACLU should have nothing to do with this at all..the majority spoke, it isn't against anything in the Constitution, let it stand.

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#16 Jan 20, 2009
Actually things like "equal protection under the law" (as well as many other applicable things) are in the constitution.

And it is funny that you mention Thomas Jefferson -- did you know that he re-wrote his own version of the Bible that he thought ought to be used, and that he too every reference to anything supernatural out of it? He even called the book of revelations the "ravings of a madman" and completely edited it out. He revision of the Bible is the "Jefferson Bible." And he was talking about keeping religion and government seperate (as religious persecution by the government was what they wanted to get away from).

And the Bill of Rights itself says in the very first sentence of the First Amendment that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

(And references to "God" was specifically and deliberately left out of the Constitution.)

And the ACLU (or ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER) has the right (and the duty) to challenge any law that seems unconstitutional...

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#17 Jan 20, 2009
TYPO ALERT: The first sentence of the second paragraph of my last post should have said:

"---And it is funny that you mention Thomas Jefferson -- did you know that he re-wrote his own version of the Bible that he thought ought to be used, and that he [**TOOK**] every reference to anything supernatural out of it?---"

...sorry about that...

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Since: Dec 08

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#18 Jan 20, 2009
Just what we need, another reason for kids to be F'd up. It's hard enough to grow up in a stable home let alone an unstable home with immoral guardians.
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Little Rock, AR

#19 Jan 20, 2009
ACLU who wrote:
The ACLU needs to stay out this. This is a state decision and should be left to the people of the state.
If it is a bad decision then it can be placed back on the ballot. The senate and house make the laws but the ACLU and others think that laws are created by judges.
I do think it's good this is being challenged. There is a constitutional issue. Just because the people of Arkansas voted to keep children from having foster homes, doesn't mean it's legal. Plus, it's just evangelical snake-handling scare tactics. Single, gay, lesbian, whatever people can make good foster parents and parents. And being in one of those good homes is a damn sight better than what we have now. I LOVED Gov. Beebe the other night on AETN for an hour. The subject came up, and he basically challenged folks who are so anti having gays, lesbians, etc., from being foster parents to step up and take some of these children in themselves. LOL. You know they won't. It's just easier to be homophobic and full of hate.
DILLIGAF

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#20 Jan 20, 2009
When the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written people were not as immoral as today. Do you honestly think the founding forefathers of this country would go along with this bullshit today.

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