Navajo Healthy Marriage project offers free education sessions

There are 20 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Oct 6, 2008, titled Navajo Healthy Marriage project offers free education sessions. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

An unassuming brown trailer sits off the side of the highway in Kirtland. Inside, a staff of three professionals is in the business of mending relationships.

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Chuck

Chinle, AZ

#1 Oct 7, 2008
I hope the project is using qualified people educating young marriages, not those with skeletons in their closets. It's a million dollar project and should be staffed with people with credible marriages.
Dude

United States

#2 Oct 7, 2008
What's with the hypenated last names of the ladies mentioned in the article? Is this the trend for tribal workers? I thought that once your given in marriage you take his last name, not your last name first then his.(I have my reasons on why I don't agree with the hypenated last name bit)

As it was mentioned in an earlier post, it should be staffed with people with credible marriages, and the staff should know what they are faced with.
George

United States

#3 Oct 7, 2008
People make mistakes. People learn from those mistakes. People teach from those mistakes so others won't have to go through what they've gone through. If thats what a sleleton in the closet means, then I have no problems learning from these type of people. Sounds like Chuck and Dude could learn from this program.

Since: Sep 08

Aztec, NM

#4 Oct 7, 2008
Statistics show that marriage counselors with divorces are more likely to suggest divorce to the couples they counsel. This is probably why posters here are in hopes that the counselors have credible, good marriages. A counselor is always most likely to suggest whatever option they prefer, whether that's divorce, or sit down and shut up/sacrifice everything in the name of marriage. Sick people need treated by a doctor, not by someone who is sicker than they are.
Dude

United States

#5 Oct 7, 2008
George wrote:
People make mistakes. People learn from those mistakes. People teach from those mistakes so others won't have to go through what they've gone through. If thats what a sleleton in the closet means, then I have no problems learning from these type of people. Sounds like Chuck and Dude could learn from this program.
Sounds like your in the program.
Counselors might have their own problems & more than likely give bad advice to someone in the program.
Chuck

Chinle, AZ

#6 Oct 7, 2008
married women with hyphenated last name are not serious about their marriages, but rather hang on to the aprons and separate life from their spouse. Navajo women with hyphenated last names are proned to divorces early so they can just drop the very last name which is their former spouse's name. Personally, I hate married women with hyphenated last name and it is a poor lesson for their children.
Mee

United States

#7 Oct 7, 2008
Are these people certified?
What the F

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Oct 7, 2008
c-Me wrote:
Statistics show that marriage counselors with divorces are more likely to suggest divorce to the couples they counsel. This is probably why posters here are in hopes that the counselors have credible, good marriages. A counselor is always most likely to suggest whatever option they prefer, whether that's divorce, or sit down and shut up/sacrifice everything in the name of marriage. Sick people need treated by a doctor, not by someone who is sicker than they are.
This sounds like a load of opinionated B.S. to me. What statistics? A well trained counselor does not suggest whatever they prefer, they usually follow a protocol and frequently suggest nothing at all, they just listen and mediate. It should not matter if their lives are perfect or not. Your statement about sick people needing to be treated by doctors as opposed to people who are sicker than them tells me you assume all doctors are perfect?
Dude

United States

#9 Oct 7, 2008
Chuck wrote:
married women with hyphenated last name are not serious about their marriages, but rather hang on to the aprons and separate life from their spouse. Navajo women with hyphenated last names are proned to divorces early so they can just drop the very last name which is their former spouse's name. Personally, I hate married women with hyphenated last name and it is a poor lesson for their children.
I agree with you!!(except the "hate" part,) otherwise I agree with you totally on the hypenated last name.
Happy

United States

#10 Oct 7, 2008
Ok, here it is folks,
Who would you rather have give advice, cheii & masani who have been married 50+ yrs. or people with 2 last names who obviously aren't serious about marriage, hence 2 last names and are paid to help your troubled marriage.

I vote cheii & masani!!! Yahoo...!!

Since: Sep 08

Aztec, NM

#11 Oct 7, 2008
What the F wrote:
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This sounds like a load of opinionated B.S. to me. What statistics? A well trained counselor does not suggest whatever they prefer, they usually follow a protocol and frequently suggest nothing at all, they just listen and mediate. It should not matter if their lives are perfect or not. Your statement about sick people needing to be treated by doctors as opposed to people who are sicker than them tells me you assume all doctors are perfect?
I read an article on the AP some time back (I want to say in August, but I can't find it right now, so can't say for sure), and if I ever end up going to a marriage counselor it will be one with a long marriage under his/her belt. Here's some other articles, which help back me up, that many marriage counselors have a "slant" when coming to work: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/08/prweb12...
http://www.marriage-success-secrets.com/marri...
(the second one especially is helpful when looking for a good counselor)
As for the ridiculous statement about my "belief" that doctors are perfect, my point was that if I need to visit my gynecologist (for example) I'd prefer she didn't see me while she was suffering from a bout of something catchy (like the 'flu) I would prefer that she focus on getting better, rather than showing up to work and giving me my exam...even with gloves and a mask. She can't focus if she is sick.
OKAY

Chinle, AZ

#12 Oct 7, 2008
I'd be very cautious about this program as it includes Tom Chee (as in spouse of Janet Slowman-Chee) and Michelle Hill-Jack who underpays and overworks allegedly some of her former daycare providers and also had a tiff with the Navajo Nation Child Program and funding for her business. She used Federal monies and provides cheap pay for Navajo workers allegedly. I would be very careful about going to these two for any "education."
What the F

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Oct 7, 2008
I'm tripping on everybody here. What does a name have to do with anything? Saying somebody with a hyphenated name doesn't care about marriage is a ridiculous generalization. I know in higher education people frequently hyphenate or keep maiden names because they have previously published under their maiden names. Do they care less about there marriages or families?

This is the same crappy behavior that saves all Navajos are lazy drunks, Asians can't drive, Mexicans are all illegal, white people can't dance, etc.

Grow up fools.
Chuck

Chinle, AZ

#14 Oct 7, 2008
very interesting, skeletons are coming out of the closets already, fishes will start appearing soon and rat odors followed by fraud and embezzlements.
Happy

United States

#15 Oct 7, 2008
What the F wrote:
I'm tripping on everybody here. What does a name have to do with anything? Saying somebody with a hyphenated name doesn't care about marriage is a ridiculous generalization. I know in higher education people frequently hyphenate or keep maiden names because they have previously published under their maiden names. Do they care less about there marriages or families?
This is the same crappy behavior that saves all Navajos are lazy drunks, Asians can't drive, Mexicans are all illegal, white people can't dance, etc.
Grow up fools.
I'm stooping to your level or mind set, you don't know us so don't be calling any of us fools.
Happy

United States

#16 Oct 7, 2008
What the F wrote:
I'm tripping on everybody here. What does a name have to do with anything? Saying somebody with a hyphenated name doesn't care about marriage is a ridiculous generalization. I know in higher education people frequently hyphenate or keep maiden names because they have previously published under their maiden names. Do they care less about there marriages or families?
This is the same crappy behavior that saves all Navajos are lazy drunks, Asians can't drive, Mexicans are all illegal, white people can't dance, etc.
Grow up fools.
Oops...typo! That last post should've read " I'm NOT stooping to your level....

“Proud to be American”

Since: Oct 08

Bloomfield, NM

#17 Oct 7, 2008
Why does it have to be the "Navajo Healthy Marraige Project"?

Why not just The Healthy Marriage Project?

Are the Navajo the only ones having problems in marraiges? No.

Don't programs that single out ancestry such as this promote racism in society through program segregation?
What the F

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Oct 7, 2008
c-Me wrote:
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I read an article on the AP some time back (I want to say in August, but I can't find it right now, so can't say for sure), and if I ever end up going to a marriage counselor it will be one with a long marriage under his/her belt. Here's some other articles, which help back me up, that many marriage counselors have a "slant" when coming to work: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/08/prweb12...
http://www.marriage-success-secrets.com/marri...
(the second one especially is helpful when looking for a good counselor)
As for the ridiculous statement about my "belief" that doctors are perfect, my point was that if I need to visit my gynecologist (for example) I'd prefer she didn't see me while she was suffering from a bout of something catchy (like the 'flu) I would prefer that she focus on getting better, rather than showing up to work and giving me my exam...even with gloves and a mask. She can't focus if she is sick.
Fair enough.
What the F

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Oct 7, 2008
Happy wrote:
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Oops...typo! That last post should've read " I'm NOT stooping to your level....
I'll stop calling you a fool when you stop making ridiculous generalizations about people. You don't need to stoop. You were already pretty low when you made your initial ignorant comments.
clifford

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Oct 7, 2008
The project is misleading. The director personalize their own negative value into the project and intergrate thier own way of beliefs.

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