The Sexual Fetish of Gay Marriage Opp...

The Sexual Fetish of Gay Marriage Opponents

There are 263 comments on the www.slate.com story from Mar 22, 2013, titled The Sexual Fetish of Gay Marriage Opponents. In it, www.slate.com reports that:

As the Supreme Court prepares to hear Hollingsworth v. Perry and United States v. Windsor, opponents of same-sex marriage have scrambled to answer the central question: What is the government’s rational interest in preventing gays from marrying? The standard argument from moral disapproval was revoked by Romer v. Evans and Lawrence v. Texas. The argument that gay marriages undermine the family has been debunked by a decade of same-sex marriage in several countries. So, as Proposition 8 and DOMA wound their way through the courts, gay marriage opponents lit upon a more durable argument, seemingly grounded in science rather than animus or religion. Their case, presented most comprehensively by Princeton professor Robert P. George, is that only sex acts with a “dynamism toward reproduction” — that is, penile to vaginal intercourse — create true marriages and lead to legitimate child-rearing. Same-sex marriages, by this theory, are not “real” marriages, because they do not involve “organic bodily union.”

Editor's note: so I guess all infertile heterosexuals are also denied legal marriage then?

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Uve

Since: Nov 12

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#157 Mar 25, 2013
The Troll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
Read it again, double dummy. Syphilis is setting in.
If YOU'RE going to insult...F(_)ck off..
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#158 Mar 26, 2013
Quest wrote:
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All they have to do is prove that there is a state interest in doing so. So far, no one has come up with a valid one.
And, regardless of how the SC rules, the fight won't stop until gay folks can marry in every state. It's just a matter of how many tax dollars those states are willing to spend in the fight.
we want to use marriage to regulate JUST the procreators.
its totally rational to do.
done.

psst, that's exactly what the bible thumpers said about abortion, how are they doing in ending that? You guys are more like them than you think. You are both cults!
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#159 Mar 26, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Regardless of what happens with Prop 8......my legal marriage will STILL be legal, valid and recognized by the State of California
are you sure?

I wouldn't be if I were you...
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#160 Mar 26, 2013
Gay And Proud wrote:
<quoted text>
If marriage requires the married couple to be raising kids, then I guess my same-sex partner and I would be safe. After all, we are like many same-sex couples and are raising kids.
are they the kids of you and your spouse?
so you are more like single parents than married couples in that way, right?

sorry your not the droids we are looking for...
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#161 Mar 26, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Not much. What do you expect me to do: riot, murder, cry? Just what do you want as an answer? Please tell me.
simple. I would want you to accept that our laws have always given rights in marriage based upon its connection to procreation...

And admit that you are proposing a CHANGE to marriage...
and that this change WOULD have impacts (potentially very negative ones) and marriage is beyond you and your agenda...

in other words, I just want the court to get you to accept REALITY!
I know, but I can dream!

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#163 Mar 26, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
<quoted text>
are you sure?
I wouldn't be if I were you...
Yes, I am!!!

My marriage was legal, valid and recognized before the passing of Prop 8, and it was legal, valid and recognized AFTER the passage of Prop 8.......and it will still be legal, valid and recognized after SCOTUS makes whatever ruling they will regarding Prop 8!!!
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#165 Mar 26, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>We? Does that include Vermont? I can smell the desperation in your posts.
nope, that is the river and the general smell of NJ...

It is also likely your breath.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#166 Mar 26, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
<quoted text>
are you sure?
I wouldn't be if I were you...
See, this is your problem and as a lawyer you should already know that nothing will change regarding the legal marriages that took place prior to the passage of Prop 8......besides, the proponents have already tried to get them invalidated without any success and the CSSC have already ruled to remain valid, legal and recognized!!!
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#167 Mar 26, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Oh really, Mr. Fake Lawyer? And exactly how does THAT work?
glad you tipped you hand as to your reality for today...

so for today, i am not a lawyer?

I mean, you will be consistent through a whole day on this right?

just kidding I know you wont.

And so your answer is, yes, you want to make up what I do for a living a few hundred more times before telling us all what job you claim you had at GE?

glad to clear this all up first thing in the morning, right?

I just feel so good today knowing our court is listening to he arguments...
its about to get real REAL around here...
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#170 Mar 26, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep.... and YOU'RE about to go down in flames, you neurotic mess. But will you shut up?.... nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo
You'll probably keep whining that gays should accept CUs.
look at your post above ...
it doesn't exactly reek of stability, does it duder?

that's what makes you so useful.
say, what job did you have at GE?
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#171 Mar 26, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Oh... so you are looking for droids in NJ,
wow...
your off the deep end now, aren't ya?
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#173 Mar 26, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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See, this is your problem and as a lawyer you should already know that nothing will change regarding the legal marriages that took place prior to the passage of Prop 8......besides, the proponents have already tried to get them invalidated without any success and the CSSC have already ruled to remain valid, legal and recognized!!!
Who can overturn the CSSC?
the SCOTUS?

If the people vote to not recognize, they will have that right...
you are "de minimis".
look that up.
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#178 Mar 26, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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SQUAWK! Get a CU! SQUAWK!
I like it, less words and less snark than most posts of yours, but all the same value....
none.
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#179 Mar 26, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>You brought up the droids, dipshit. Jesus Christ! You are incapable of following your own narrative.
and you seized on the silly joke instead of the substantive part...

whodathunkit?

Oh right me...
you are a moron.
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#183 Mar 26, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>What was substantive about droids? Droids that YOU brought up. Yes, your posts are silly jokes...futile attempts at trying to prove something by using ridiculous metaphors.
I always guessed you don't understand what is substantive...thanks for proving it.

just stick to snark and playing with the icons kid.
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#187 Mar 26, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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You need to get laid dude. Try rentboy
here we have the your gay as a veiled insult AGAIN...
another try from the one bad trick idiot.

don't gay people find this clown OFFENSIVE?
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#188 Mar 26, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand substantive due process, do you?
no you don't.

but that's cute you tried.
Francisco dAnconia

Barre, VT

#189 Mar 26, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't see any icons on your posts. Perhaps Jane Dough can help you out with placing those.
right, so why don't you go play with them.
no one else is going to like your posts...

or do you wait until the afternoon to sign in with another name?

just another day huh dude?

Uve

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#193 Mar 26, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
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we want to use marriage to regulate JUST the procreators.
its totally rational to do.
done.
psst, that's exactly what the bible thumpers said about abortion, how are they doing in ending that? You guys are more like them than you think. You are both cults!
Umm, Even thought it's pointless to try and tell you anything, but Sexual Identity is not a cult. AND before you start your BS it's not a choice either.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#194 Mar 26, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
<quoted text>
Who can overturn the CSSC?
the SCOTUS?
If the people vote to not recognize, they will have that right...
you are "de minimis".
look that up.
I guess SCOTUS could, but then they would be violating the State's right to recognize the existing marriages.....but like I said, that argument wasn't in front of SCOTUS and it is unlikely that SCOTUS would go there!!!

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