Anti-Gay Evangelist Plans $100 Million Defamation Lawsuit For 'Hate Group' Label

Aug 17, 2012 Full story: The Huffington Post 256

A prominent evangelist is threatening to sue the Southern Poverty Law Center after it labeled his Internet-based ministry a "hate group." According to a press release , Bill Keller -- deemed "the world's leading Internet evangelist" and the founder of LivePrayer.com -- is planning a $100 million defamation lawsuit against the SPLC.

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#233 Aug 27, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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The answer is obvious: the ubber-liberal SPLC tends to target Conservative Christian groups as "hateful" while ignoring intolerant islamic orgs that freely operating in the US.
By the way, Joe, here is a link to a column which appears on the SPLC website about Muslims.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelli...

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Stratford, Connecticut.

#234 Aug 27, 2012
The_Box wrote:
... Oh, please educate us.
... because you are an empty box?

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#235 Aug 27, 2012
RalphB wrote:
From the SPLC, this morning:
We do not track and list Islamic hate groups. Below is what our Intelligence Project director wrote to someone with a similar inquiry:
Historically, we have not specialized at all in Islamic groups, outside of certain American black Muslim groups, who we do consider very much a part of the domestic radical right ...
This has to be the first time I've seen a liberal group describe black NGOs as "radical right"!
I wonder how many NoI members are registered Republicans?

And the SPLC doesn't track islamic hate groups, foreign or domestic; well, that takes CAIR and all the other Muslim Brotherhood proxies operating in the US right off their radar.
How convenient.

And Ralph, thanks for getting this info.

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#236 Aug 27, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
Such as ...
You've been provided the link, look for yourself.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
In what post # of this thread?
If you're not going to bother to pay attention, you should at least take notes.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
... as recorded in the Daily Mail, Reuters, and other reliable sources, but when these pubs report news gays don't want to hear, it's all a vast, right wing anti-gay conspiracey?
They were simply reporting what the officials told them, your own link also reported on the great deal of skepticism that the official explanation was greeted with, which you conveniently ignore of course.
Aiesha S

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#237 Aug 27, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Islamic law criminalizes homosexuality to the point of summary execution, yet there are no legit muslim NGOs on SPLC's "hate" list, but that's OK with the SPLC, you and other liberal islamic sycophants.
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Your hypothetical "if's" are just conjecture, and as you can see, I'm still here.
That's right, they do. Iran is the worst place for that.

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#238 Aug 28, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Islamic law criminalizes homosexuality to the point of summary execution, yet there are no legit muslim NGOs on SPLC's "hate" list, but that's OK with the SPLC, you and other liberal islamic sycophants.
There is no legit muslim NGO on the SPLC hate list? I've provided you with several examples! Do you have a short memory, perhaps?

Moreover, I do not see any other legit muslim NGOs going around telling porkies about homosexuals, and repeating them. If so, please do inform the SPLC, which will investigate further and if found correct, add the group to the list. Just being against homosexuality is NOT enough to be on a hate list, as has been made clear by the SPLC.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Your hypothetical "if's" are just conjecture, and as you can see, I'm still here.
And still not answering the simple questions. That's a form of running away.

But I will keep on asking, and keep it to the simple one:
Would you accept the FRC being listed if CAIR was also on the list?

Simple "yes - no" question.

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#239 Aug 28, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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This has to be the first time I've seen a liberal group describe black NGOs as "radical right"!
Then you should have been more observant.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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I wonder how many NoI members are registered Republicans?
Ah, so you say that Republicans are the radical right!

Interesting conclusion.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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And the SPLC doesn't track islamic hate groups, foreign or domestic; well, that takes CAIR and all the other Muslim Brotherhood proxies operating in the US right off their radar.
How convenient.
And Ralph, thanks for getting this info.
Wow, talk about ignoring the substance of the reply!

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#240 Aug 28, 2012
Aiesha S wrote:
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That's right, they do. Iran is the worst place for that.
Does that make it OK for the FRC to tell lies about homosexuals and homosexuality?

In my world two wrongs don't make a right, even when one wrong is worse than the other.

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Stratford, Connecticut.

#241 Aug 28, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
They were simply reporting what the officials told them, your own link also reported on the great deal of skepticism that the official explanation was greeted with ...
... by your fellow gays, who also dismissed the opinions of Blacks who voted for Prop 8 in Cali.

This is nothing but racism in the guise of denial.

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Stratford, Connecticut.

#242 Aug 28, 2012
Marco the atheist wrote:
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There is no legit muslim NGO on the SPLC hate list? I've provided you with several examples!...
... none of which are recognized as such by known muslim groups.

And if you had bothered to read the link Ralph provided, the SPLC said it doesn't track islamic hate groups, foreign or domestic, even a decade after 9-11, but it will go after the FRC and Conservative Christians.

Christians victims of rising 'hostility' from gov't and secular groups, report says

"A new report by the Family Research Council and the Liberty Institute claims that there's been a rising pattern of hostility toward Christians in America over the past decade.

"The 140-page "Survey of Religious Hostility in America," prepared by the Liberty Institute and the Family Research Council, highlighted more than 600 examples illustrating what it characterized as religious animosity shown by judges, government bureaucrats, schools and secular groups ..."

http://www.worthynews.com/top/foxnews-com-us-...

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#243 Aug 28, 2012
Marco the atheist wrote:
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Does that make it OK for the FRC to tell lies about homosexuals and homosexuality?...
Marco, does your gay spin also justify the Aug. 15 incident at the Family Research Council headquarters by a gay activist who allegedly said he disagreed with the group's beliefs before shooting an employee in the arm?

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#245 Aug 28, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... because you are an empty box?
This is a non-response.

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#246 Aug 28, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Christians victims of rising 'hostility' from gov't and secular groups, report says
"A new report by the Family Research Council and the Liberty Institute claims that there's been a rising pattern of hostility toward Christians in America over the past decade.
Lol, Christian fundamentalist groups claim Christian fundamentalists are victims. How objective!

Who the hell would trust anything reported by the FRC and Liberty?

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#247 Aug 28, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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This has to be the first time I've seen a liberal group describe black NGOs as "radical right"!
I wonder how many NoI members are registered Republicans?
And the SPLC doesn't track islamic hate groups, foreign or domestic; well, that takes CAIR and all the other Muslim Brotherhood proxies operating in the US right off their radar.
How convenient.
And Ralph, thanks for getting this info.
Your welcome. And by the way, I haven't checked, but the SPLC did say that the JDL ( I think that is the acronym) Does track Muslim hate groups. So I guess the SPLC doing it would be redundant.

“Facts, not fiction”

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#248 Aug 28, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... none of which are recognized as such by known muslim groups.
What a load of crap. I'm sure I can find some christian groups that do not consider the FRC "christian". There, problem solved.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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And if you had bothered to read the link Ralph provided, the SPLC said it doesn't track islamic hate groups, foreign or domestic, even a decade after 9-11, but it will go after the FRC and Conservative Christians.
Also, as it says, it lacks the expertise, and thus presently mostly leaves that to organizations that DO have that expertise, like the ADL. And to make you really roll around in horror: the ADL doesn't like CAIR, and it doesn't exactly like the FRC either...
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Christians victims of rising 'hostility' from gov't and secular groups, report says
"A new report by the Family Research Council and the Liberty Institute claims that there's been a rising pattern of hostility toward Christians in America over the past decade.
"The 140-page "Survey of Religious Hostility in America," prepared by the Liberty Institute and the Family Research Council, highlighted more than 600 examples illustrating what it characterized as religious animosity shown by judges, government bureaucrats, schools and secular groups ..."
http://www.worthynews.com/top/foxnews-com-us-...
You might want to read the comment from A.J. Johnson. He correctly points out that many examples are the FRC and LI complaining about not getting special privileges.

Let's take an example: you have just hired a muslim at your supermarket, and he says "I'm not going to touch any products containing pork! that is against my religious convictions!". Do you a) fire him; b) give in to him, after all, it's his religion that trumps his requirements at work?

If you selected a), you'd show why the example of the nurse is so typical of complaining about christians not getting preferential treatment.

Some of the other examples are obvious "we think this is the reason, although another reason was given."

Frank Turek's example is a good one of the FRC twisting the facts: Cisco was unwilling to work with Turek because of his continuous malignment of homosexuals in various public venues. NOT his views about marriage were the reason, but his claims that "radical Muslims are teaming up to destroy Western Civilization because they hate Judeo-Christian natural law", Turek comparing homosexuality to alcoholism and pedophilia, and Turek comparing homosexuals to sociopaths.

Would you get upset if your company decided to fire the muslim who outside his work declares that christians are dogs and compares them to criminals and dogs? Oh, and maybe he also wrote a book in which he ardently defends polygamy...

In the case of Samantha Schultz the person in question would have banned ANY religious song (note that the decision was turned over by a higher official).

The cross on Mount Soledad is still there. It has been ruled unconstitutional to have *any* religious symbol portrayed there, so there's no anti-christian bias there either. If it was a muslim crescent or jewish star, same story.

I am sure you would loudly proclaim your approval if anything mentioned above had happened to a muslim.

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#249 Aug 28, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Marco, does your gay spin also justify the Aug. 15 incident at the Family Research Council headquarters by a gay activist who allegedly said he disagreed with the group's beliefs before shooting an employee in the arm?
Have I stated my approval? No, I didn't. Did the SPLC stated its approval? No, it didn't. What I will do is point out to you that if you considered the FRC being on the SPLC hate list as an implicit approval of violence against the FRC, you also state that the claims about homosexuals by the FRC are implicit approval of violence against homosexuals.

And still no answer to the question we asked: Would adding CAIR to the SPLC list make you accept the listing of the FRC?

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#250 Aug 28, 2012
The_Box wrote:
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Lol, Christian fundamentalist groups claim Christian fundamentalists are victims ...
The Aug. 15 shooting at the Family Research Council HQ by a gay activist who said he disagreed with the group's beliefs before shooting an employee has been well documented by the mass media.
Marco the atheist wrote:
... it lacks the expertise, and thus presently mostly leaves that to organizations that DO have that expertise, like the ADL.
How much "expertise" does it take to watch the evening news?

The libera SPLC can all too easilly "determine" what Conservative Christian groups are hateful, but it can't tell what Muslim groups are murdering Americans?

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#251 Aug 28, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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The Aug. 15 shooting at the Family Research Council HQ by a gay activist who said he disagreed with the group's beliefs before shooting an employee has been well documented by the mass media.
A single lone gunman is evidence that Christians are persecuted? Really?

MARTYR COMPLEX

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#252 Aug 28, 2012
The_Box wrote:
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A single lone gunman is evidence that Christians are persecuted? Really?...
Q: How many violent, gun-toting gay activists are required for one hate crime?

A: A single lone gunman.

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#253 Aug 28, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Q: How many violent, gun-toting gay activists are required for one hate crime?
A: A single lone gunman.
Who said it wasn't a hate crime?

I thought we were talking about a culture of persecution. Or did you move the goalposts because you know that's a load of nonsense?

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