The Girl Scout murders revisited

May 23, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: KFOR-TV Oklahoma City

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There is new information on a haunting event that changed our state. It was a stormy June night thirty years ago at Camp Scott near Locust Grove. via KFOR-TV Oklahoma City

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I was not quite born yet, when this happened, but I still remember hearing about it, while growing up. Scared the hell out of me, and it's still creepy. (I live less than two hours away.) But even if Hart is guilty, it doesn't prove he acted alone. I read other articles, and some say two footprints---two different types of shoes, and two different sizes---were found at the scene.
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Jun 11, 2007
 
Did anyone hear how the new DNA tests turned out? The news did a piece about how it might be shown once and for all if Hart was guilty or not, but I never saw any follow-up regarding results.
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I have called the OSBI, and nobody will listen. I was a boy scout in troup 17 at Camp Garland when those murders occured. We had the first camp site at Camp Garland and only 1/4 mile from Camp Scott. Those girls that were murdered were in the first camp site closest to camp Garland. The first night of camp we had three boys that bragged to the entire troup that they were going to go to Camp Scott that night to get some girls. They indead went, and in the middle of the night returned and woke up allot of us arguing. One boy was crying and saying he didn't want to get into trouble, the other two boys were angry and telling him to keep his mouth shut and they won't get in any trouble. The next morning the police arrived and took all the boys 14 years old and older into the camp site building for questioning. I was only 12. Myself and about 10 other boys told our scout master about the three boys and what they said and did, but he told us to shut up and let the police do thier job.

The Mays county detectives and OSBI found a "drunk Indian" to blame this on and they don't want to be embarressed. I've even called KRMG, and emailed channel 8 and nobody wants to look into this. I gaurantee, if someone adertised to have members of boy scout troup 17 come forward, you would get over a dozen that would remember those three boys and what they did.

Those three girls and thier families deserve justice!! I ended up going to High School with two of those boys and they were some of the roughest kids at Rogers High School, class of 83. I remember thier names.
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Can you contact the defense attorney Garvin Isaacs. He might still have some interest. I think he was interviewed on channel 5 news in Oklahoma City within the last two weeks. There were also some people on another website who think that their uncle who lived right by the entrance to the camp did it. They claim that their uncle had molested them when they were little and later took them into the park to show them exactly where the girl scouts had been found. As far as I can tell the results of the latest DNA is available but the information hasn't been released.
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thank you for the name, I looked him up on the internet and called. I left a vm. so what's the latest on the DNA?
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why cant anyone get any info on the dna?????
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cecil wrote:
why cant anyone get any info on the dna?????
IE: test not done? Maybe its not public info? Was dna test even taken?
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Wow, "Jenny". Have you even followed this case?
In short...yes. DNA was taken. Sent to a lab for new test, results released to DA a couple weeks ago. It's in his hands to release to the public.

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'Wow, "Jenny". Have you even followed this case?'

LOL!
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Darren wrote:
I have called the OSBI, and nobody will listen. I was a boy scout in troup 17 at Camp Garland when those murders occured. We had the first camp site at Camp Garland and only 1/4 mile from Camp Scott. Those girls that were murdered were in the first camp site closest to camp Garland. The first night of camp we had three boys that bragged to the entire troup that they were going to go to Camp Scott that night to get some girls. They indead went, and in the middle of the night returned and woke up allot of us arguing. One boy was crying and saying he didn't want to get into trouble, the other two boys were angry and telling him to keep his mouth shut and they won't get in any trouble. The next morning the police arrived and took all the boys 14 years old and older into the camp site building for questioning. I was only 12. Myself and about 10 other boys told our scout master about the three boys and what they said and did, but he told us to shut up and let the police do thier job.
The Mays county detectives and OSBI found a "drunk Indian" to blame this on and they don't want to be embarressed. I've even called KRMG, and emailed channel 8 and nobody wants to look into this. I gaurantee, if someone adertised to have members of boy scout troup 17 come forward, you would get over a dozen that would remember those three boys and what they did.
Those three girls and thier families deserve justice!! I ended up going to High School with two of those boys and they were some of the roughest kids at Rogers High School, class of 83. I remember thier names.
Hey I was in troop 17 that year but we went to john zink not camp garland because of the murders.
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I was in troop 17 that year. we went to john zink instead of camp garland because of the murders.
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I feel the cases should be re-opened. My grandfather, Roy Martin and grandmother, Mary Martin lived near the gate entrance of the Girl Scout camp. Their son, Terry, who is my dad's brother lived in the home at this time. Terry was molesting his many nieces plus other victims (total of known 8 so far that has spoken up) and I am a survivor. I remember during this time of the murders, the news media was camping out in my grandparent's yard. My relatives were wondering where Terry was during this time. He was known to always run off. Terry was molesting the children (ages 4-13) in the family. The family was told of this news not until 1984 and the years to follow the victims came forward. Terry was violent in his acts unto us. I have wondered could he be a part of this horrible crime? Now Terry resides in his home by the gates of the once entrance of the Girl Scout murders. He knew the woods well. He was molesting children during those years. He was on drugs and the conditions were right for a child molestor. Since the statue of limitations have passed, he lives freely. Should the Girl Scout murders be re-opened. Yes. It would bring answers to the many questions.
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It was a severe storm that night. In the pitch black. Through a lot of woods and across the busiest highway in the area. No way three out of town boy scouts pulled that one off that night and made it back to camp.
It's a much further walk than 1/4 mile and the conditions would be horrible. even if some young teens wanted to see some girls, the rain and walk through those woods would be enough to make them forget the stupid idea.
Not to mention the ages don't match up with the year you say they graduated.
Quit spreading that stupid story all over the place. One of the problems this case has is all the misinformation and you just added to it.
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Camp Scott was our family camp. It was owned by my Great Uncle Scott and Aunt Florence originally. We had some great times and lots of memories there when we were little. When he sold it to the Girl Scouts of America he was so proud to have it go to such a great organization and knew that lots more memories would be made there. When the murders occured Uncle Scotty was horrified that something like that could happen at a place that was so dear to all of us.I have not been by there in a long long time. My mother said that it was sold to the GRDA and that they flooded the place. I don't know too much more about it. It saddens me to think that someone responsible is still out there. Hope it is resolved soon.
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After talking with my mother more, she said that my Great Uncle sold "part" of his property to the Girl Scouts. The property that we used to go to was turned over to the GRDA and flooded. However, the Girl Scout Camp was not. My mother has a picture of the fireplace chimney from the Girl Scout camp that she and my dad took in 1979. She said that was about all that was left there.
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The OSBI Spokeswoman says the DNA results have been given to the Mayes County Sheriff's office. She claims there is one of three conclusions....it's a match to Hart, no match to Hart or inconclusive. The Mayes County District Attorney contacted local media in the state to ask the best way to send them a press release regarding a news conference the DA will hold in the next couple of weeks. That was over a month ago. When the DA's office was contacted a week ago, they said they had no comment and would hold a news conference when and if the time were appropriate. Whatever that means.
There are rumors from law enforcement in the Tulsa and surrounding areas that the test results are inconclusive.
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OK people, I need some SERIOUS help with this...I have a person willing to help me with this case who wants the public to know the TRUTH about what happened. He actually worked the case when it happened and we need your help to get a Grand Jury involved. This case is NOT "closed"..it is "open but inactive", which means it takes a Grand Jury to order a new investigation into the case. This is the REAL DEAL!!! If you'd like to volunteer some time and help get some signatures for this cause, we have evidence that the public doesn't even know about. Reply to this post if you are seriously interested and let's get some justice once and for all. My God, it's been 30 years and people don't even discuss this case anymore. Let's catch the REAL killer while he is still alive so he can pay for this crime!!
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are you from the locust grove area tony? i am what do you need help with?
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i work with dr farmer and know how much this would mean to me to have this finally closed- my cousin is the one that turned informant against gene hart, and if any one was capable of this type of violence -he was! i knew gene as a child and never saw this side of him. i know there was alot of bad blood between him and pete weaver. i dont think they got the right person at all.
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In 1977 I was 29 and living in Ada,Ok at the time of the girl scout killings. My daughter was the age of the girl scouts and my heart went out to the families and still does. Everyone was in fear for their children's safety, especially after Gene Leroy Hart took off to the hills. They sent dogs after him and they would find the dogs dead. He was surviving in the woods for a long time. At the time, I believed Hart was guilty. After reading the book about the case it only sealed my belief. But now as I read all the comments made on this forum and also if you go to "Gene Leroy Hart" on the internet it takes you to other forums re: this case and there are alot of people who believe that Gene Leroy Hart did not commit these awful murders. I would like to know the results of the DNA testing!

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