With DCS under fire, Cumberland County fights for 'our kids'

Oct 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Tennessean

"She had a heart of gold," recalls the still-grieving grandmother of little Hope Manning, glancing down at dusty framed photos of a girl with a bright toothy smile, pigtails and a playful personality.

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doesnthurtoask

Mcminnville, TN

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Nov 4, 2012
 
SeeItoldyou wrote:
One issue that DCS has, here and other places, is the fact they get so many "revenge" complaints. And because of those false implications, DCS has a hard time keeping up. Then, you have the extreme cases where there is so much abuse, the child or children are so scared to say anything, they end up getting hurt or killed because of it getting covered up. There are so many twisted situations, it all breaks my heart.
I couldn't agree with this statement more. This person knows what they are talking about. I will only add a few final comments. The work load is super high. And management doesn't care since it all goes on numbers in and out. I have heard of case workers easily working 12 hours up to 18 and some even 24. No joke. No shit. The pay sucks and you get phone calls all threw the night. With super high case loads and low pay they can't keep employees. Any one there could go elsewhere are make the same amount with less stress. DHS employees that work in Kentucky automatically get a $5,000 raise. Tennessee does not care about it's children. I read that Tennessee is 48 ranked in education. When an audit rolls around caseworkers work full time to hustle the files in order, to compy with Brian A. If they don't the manager would get the ax. And the managers threaten the case workers if the files are not perfect, discipline action will be taken. Then they are forced into a budget so more workers are loaded with more cases. And it is not safe for the children and it is not safe for the case workers. Then DCS has to deal with if a child does get injured it is always blamed on DCS. Look at this this way if two adults get in a fight at a bar and one is injured is it a police officers fault? After all they knew the person was a criminal and drank to much, and carried a knife. Should you expect the police officer to watch that person day and night so they do not hurt any one else? The fact is DCS usually gets called after someone gets hurt. Before someone gets hurt is not enough to go to court on. DCS can only intervene under specific criteria, not on hunches or gossip. Som

Since: Aug 10

Cookeville, TN

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Nov 5, 2012
 

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I do know that they use their position in the courts to determine the fate of children based upon popularity of the parties and not the interest of the children or the real values that should be instilled in the childrens lives.
There is so much corruption here in the Cumberland legal system.I can't put my faith and trust in this but in the Lord, He will not be defeated! I remember that Jesus got angery in the temple and threw out the money changers.

Since: Aug 10

Cookeville, TN

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#24
Nov 5, 2012
 
What happened to the class action suit?
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Crossville, TN

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Nov 5, 2012
 
DCS cares nothing about children. My brother has been fighting a battle for his son(8yrs old) for years. took out loans for attorneys, none of which did a damn thing. My nephews mother has been caught drunk driving with both her kids in the car twice. she was let go. She was under investigation for that huge fake money round up that happened a few months back (she was let go cause she gave names of the ring leader"). She took a chainsaw to the car of her baby girls father out of anger and was let go on that charge cause they shipped her here to face charges on the fake money. let go again. she has had those babies "camping" as she told the kids in her car for days at a time cause she had nowhere to go and refused to let the kids stay with their fathers. My nephew has been late to school and left early on numerous occasions, not to mention he has not been in the same school for one consecutive school year. always late or never shows for sports practice or games when she has him, always eating fast food. he has ate so much mcdonalds he hates it! cant even take him there as a treat for doing good in school. He cries and begs not to have to go back to his mother. he told us that him, his sister, his mom, and her friend all sleep in the same bed. and they smoke pot while laying there. she doesnt have a place of her own, she is always staying with other people. she never keeps a job more than a couple of weeks if it even makes it that long. there is nothing on record for her so DCS will NOT help!!!! lawyer after lawyer. Court after court. still NOTHING! and seems like everytime we go to court the judge takes more time away from us and gives to her! WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN??????????

Since: Aug 10

Cookeville, TN

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Nov 5, 2012
 
If its court in Cumberland county forget it, it will never happen!!!
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Cookeville, TN

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Johnny Gat wrote:
<quoted text> The one thing most people don't know is that CPS Workers are only "VALIDATORS" they are not the Law as they so believe themselves to be, if they come to your home saying they received a report of abuse and want to help you have a right to tell them that they cannot come in and to leave your property and also have the right to call the sheriffs department if the Caseworker refuses to leave and have them removed from your property. My suggestion is if your involved with CPS to refer to this website www.familyrights.org This site has alot of info on how to fight against CPS.
Yes, you can tell DCS to go to "Haties" if they come knocking on your door, but, not cooperating with DCS only prolongs the inevidable. State law requires them to go ino a home involved in a case, therefor you can let them in, or a court order will let them in... peace!
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DCS cares nothing about children. My brother has been fighting a battle for his son(8yrs old) for years. took out loans for attorneys, none of which did a damn thing. My nephews mother has been caught drunk driving with both her kids in the car twice. she was let go. She was under investigation for that huge fake money round up that happened a few months back (she was let go cause she gave names of the ring leader"). She took a chainsaw to the car of her baby girls father out of anger and was let go on that charge cause they shipped her here to face charges on the fake money. let go again. she has had those babies "camping" as she told the kids in her car for days at a time cause she had nowhere to go and refused to let the kids stay with their fathers. My nephew has been late to school and left early on numerous occasions, not to mention he has not been in the same school for one consecutive school year. always late or never shows for sports practice or games when she has him, always eating fast food. he has ate so much mcdonalds he hates it! cant even take him there as a treat for doing good in school. He cries and begs not to have to go back to his mother. he told us that him, his sister, his mom, and her friend all sleep in the same bed. and they smoke pot while laying there. she doesnt have a place of her own, she is always staying with other people. she never keeps a job more than a couple of weeks if it even makes it that long. there is nothing on record for her so DCS will NOT help!!!! lawyer after lawyer. Court after court. still NOTHING! and seems like everytime we go to court the judge takes more time away from us and gives to her! WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN??????????
Lets hear both sides of it "Agreed"...
She can probably say the same things about your brother...he probably lives with you or his parents... chill!
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#29
Nov 12, 2012
 
Actually he has always had his own place since he was 17 years old. so you can stuff it "jumper".
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it is a sad situation for any child to be in and be involved with dcs however sometimes the only way to get some people to actually straighten up is for people to know that there is someone of higher power to put a stop to drug users and abusers mistreating children.i am a mother myself and a grandmother for that fact and it apalls me to know how many so called parents think it is ok to be high all the time and just ignore a child or lay around in a bed all day because they have stayed up all night.if people do not want to take care of their children they need not have them because a child does not ask to be put in any situation and have no choice to live the way their parents force them to however that is when dcs or law enforcement need to be involved.sadly enough grandparents have no rights in tn and makes it hard for them too stay in contact with their grandchildren if the parents use them against the grandparents.more people need to be involved in the well being of all our children in this county....

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Cookeville, TN

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#31
Nov 25, 2012
 
Doesnt any one get it. It has nothing to do with whats in the best interest of the child but just another problem with corruption here in Crossville. Since the GG sons Paternal Grandfather (in which my GGSons livein his home)was arrested on Nov 2 for drug possession, the boys still remain there and have not been removed, WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU!
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#32
Nov 25, 2012
 
four years ago i had a very bad mishap with DCS and when they took my children i did everything they wanted me to when i took a drug test for them i failed for drugs i had never heard of and demanded it be sent to a lab and they took all my rights away and i was refused visitation and phone calls. i was devastated and fell into a bad situation but sent myself to teenchallenge for my boys. As soon as i got in this place they gave my ex husband full custody of my children with 2 recent DUI's and a PI and he got these 2 months befor he got custody of my children. He had not seen them in 4 years or supported them in any way. they didnt even know who he was. My children wasnt even aloud to take most of their personal belongings that i had sent with them when they left the foster home. Their dad beat them when he got drunk and they saw so much abuse with him and his new wife that he married in october and got boys in january. i lost them on the last day of august. They promised me that i would get them back for doing the program and then gave them to him. he would not let me talk to them and only sometimes let him have my letters. he moved 6 or 7 times from february to october of the same year. when i first got to see my children that december of next year that was wearing ragged out clothes holey shoes. that was my first thing to do because my children had never wore things like this. by the grace of God i got a attorney shortly after that when trying to work things out with him when he abused me and mentally abused the boys. DCS would not get involved hd closed it when they gave hm custody. i was given full custody of my kids that april and they have been with me since. DCS makes all kinds of promises if you do this or do that it will all be okay but if you buck on them and catch them using faulty test they stab you in the back. DCS needs to be stopped and and justice needs to made on them
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Nov 25, 2012
 
And when I found out he was given full custody not temporary custody like they promised. I also asked how he got custody with these charges. I begged them to do a hair folicle on him and they wouldn't.
When i questioned the custody they refused to talk to me because they knew they had screwed up giving him the boys with those charges and misssing them before they made a finally decision
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#34
Nov 25, 2012
 
Silence do good wrote:
Dcs in Cumberland County needs to be held liable for their lies and tearing innocent families apart. I am joining a clss action lawsuit against them and local authorities along with 7 other people. If you have any evidence and are willing to come foreward in a fight in taking our children back, Please contact me. I will later post an email address to be contacted threw. I have an attorney who is already processing the needed paper work.I had to work hard in obtaining this attorney, and I already had strict proff in demanding. I know their are other families that need my help. I know if I had not had the money to fight, I would have lost my children forever, despite my indisputable evidence. The judge needs to be fired and is already being investigated. The reports so far are incriminating at the least.I question how many families lost their children bc they didn't have the money to fight them. I really need only serious inquires, If your guilty please do not contact me. This is for families truely abused by this system, and that can back their story with evidence and not hear say.
I don't know how to get in contact but I have my own story I want to share...I have evidence to back up EVERYTHING.
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Nov 25, 2012
 
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And when I found out he was given full custody not temporary custody like they promised. I also asked how he got custody with these charges. I begged them to do a hair folicle on him and they wouldn't.
When i questioned the custody they refused to talk to me because they knew they had screwed up giving him the boys with those charges and misssing them before they made a finally decision
They don't care "DHS" you are GUILTY until proven Innocent. Even a 3rd party person they always turn an evil eye on. Say the father did something and the mother did everything she was supposed to, but stands up for the father as well, they will turn on the mother. They don't care where the children end up, as long as they get their way and ruin peoples lives. Yes there are cases where there are children that REALLY need help, and REALLY need to be taken ot of the home. But there are far more cases where it's just someone being an ass that calls, and they go and "investigate" and come to their own conclusions. No matter what proof you put in front of them. You can have it on video and they will deny it! Their investigation tactics for this state seem horrible and not taken seriously. A person with half a brain could do a better job. Something needs to be done about the injustice of the system not just in this state but every state. This is tearing apart families left and right. Not just from parents but also their siblings, their grandparents, aunts, uncles...everyone. For what? An extra paycheck in their pocket?

I am glad you got your kids back though...but to go through all that.
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#36
Nov 25, 2012
 
Are these not the perfect argument for abortion?

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Nov 27, 2012
 
Whatever sounds like a chapter that my family just went through... From the promise of custody if a drug program was completed to giving the children to the dead beat dad that is about to marry a girl that does drugs to the grandfather that they live with being arrested for drug possession. WOW! I think DCS and the Judge have a script that they follow!!

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