Another Boy Scout FAIL: Camp Counsell...

Another Boy Scout FAIL: Camp Counsellor Fired for Being Gay

There are 267 comments on the Daily Kos story from Jul 27, 2012, titled Another Boy Scout FAIL: Camp Counsellor Fired for Being Gay. In it, Daily Kos reports that:

Two weeks ago my sons returned from a week at Camp Winton, a boy scout camp in our council.

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Mongrel

Canton, OH

#295 Aug 4, 2012
KingKong wrote:
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Bye the way, there's no "e" at the end of that word.
Are there two "z's" in Azzwhole, Mister English major?
KingKong

Lena, IL

#296 Aug 4, 2012
Mongrel wrote:
<quoted text>Are there two "z's" in Azzwhole, Mister English major?
I never claimed to be an English major. But if you're going to post something, at least sound half intelligible when you do it.

People amaze me with their lack of skill
to communicate properly.

Getting back to the situation at hand though......the BSA are hypocritical. They say they do things in the name of God, but firing someone when they've done nothing wrong, isn't right. Basically they fired him because he was gay. There a few simple questions to ask yourself when looking at this overall situation. Okay, the guy was gay, but he did his job, and did it well. The kids loved him and respected him. Ask yourself this:

1. Does he being gay, hinder him from doing his job in a proper manner?

2. Did he do all he could do to ensure the safety of the boys that were under his care?

3. At any time, did he make any passes or sexual gestures towards the boys in any way?

If you can legitimately answer any of these question and say yes to question one, no to question two, and yes to question three, then I say he needs to be fired.

The simple and plain truth is he was fired for being homosexual. Nothing more....nothing less.
Mongrel

Canton, OH

#297 Aug 4, 2012
KingKong wrote:
<quoted text>
I never claimed to be an English major. But if you're going to post something, at least sound half intelligible when you do it.
People amaze me with their lack of skill
to communicate properly.
Getting back to the situation at hand though......the BSA are hypocritical. They say they do things in the name of God, but firing someone when they've done nothing wrong, isn't right. Basically they fired him because he was gay. There a few simple questions to ask yourself when looking at this overall situation. Okay, the guy was gay, but he did his job, and did it well. The kids loved him and respected him. Ask yourself this:
1. Does he being gay, hinder him from doing his job in a proper manner?
2. Did he do all he could do to ensure the safety of the boys that were under his care?
3. At any time, did he make any passes or sexual gestures towards the boys in any way?
If you can legitimately answer any of these question and say yes to question one, no to question two, and yes to question three, then I say he needs to be fired.
The simple and plain truth is he was fired for being homosexual. Nothing more....nothing less.
You're absolutely right. He was fired for being a homo and the BSA doesn't want homo's "caring" for their young charges. Just as most people wouldn't want a 20 something young man babysitting their teenage daughter's. See how easy logic can be when you take off your ideological glasses?
Jumper

Morgantown, KY

#298 Aug 4, 2012
Maybe if all gay Scout Masters 'came out' and had one of those public kiss-ins,then maybe the Scouting office will see that there are so many homosexuals within the ranks that they would have no choice but to allow it.
McGruff

Campbellsville, KY

#299 Aug 4, 2012
KingKong wrote:
<quoted text>I never claimed to be an English major. But if you're going to post something, at least sound half intelligible when you do it.

People amaze me with their lack of skill
to communicate properly.

Getting back to the situation at hand though......the BSA are hypocritical. They say they do things in the name of God, but firing someone when they've done nothing wrong, isn't right. Basically they fired him because he was gay. There a few simple questions to ask yourself when looking at this overall situation. Okay, the guy was gay, but he did his job, and did it well. The kids loved him and respected him. Ask yourself this:

1. Does he being gay, hinder him from doing his job in a proper manner?

2. Did he do all he could do to ensure the safety of the boys that were under his care?

3. At any time, did he make any passes or sexual gestures towards the boys in any way?

If you can legitimately answer any of these question and say yes to question one, no to question two, and yes to question three, then I say he needs to be fired.

The simple and plain truth is he was fired for being homosexual. Nothing more....nothing less.
well of course he was fired for being gay. They don't hire gays. If they knew he was gay he wouldn't have been hired in the first place. They have every right to fire him and they should have.
Jumper

Morgantown, KY

#300 Aug 4, 2012
I don't think it's gay-bashing orv anything personal.

They just don't hire gay people.

If they fired a Scout Master for being a horse,nobody would be offended.
Former Boy Scout

Chicago, IL

#302 Jan 29, 2013
My best friend and I made the transition from the Cub Scouts to the Boy Scouts. Both groups met in our church basement. My friend's mom was our Cub Scout leader while her oldest son was out Boy Scout leader.
While in the Cub Scouts my friend and I would have sleep overs. Since we were 8, our moms usually saw us naked and thought nothing about it.
When we moved over into the BSA we still had sleep overs, but our moms would seldom see us naked. When we went to camp for 2 weeks, we swam nude and if it was hot at night we went nude instead of using pajamas. Our troop leader was the only one who wore trunks in the pool and shorts at night. By the end of the second week, he was even swimming nude.
The boys would pair up and disappear for an hour. One day we followed some older Scouts into the woods nude and discovered the fun we were missing. The boys started playing with their dicks; we were doing the same. Now it changed and they played with each other before they went oral. We heard one boy say don't pee in my mouth, after you cum. The other said you do what I want or we are finished.
We had made too much noise and were caught. The boys made us suck their dicks and swallow their cum. We pretended we did not like it, but after they came in our mouths they "made" us do each other. We didn't mind it at all. I wanted my friend's cum and also begged him to pee in my mouth.
We are now college seniors and lovers. We owe it to camp. We don't know if we would have become gay lovers without going to camp.
The two boys who introduced us to sex are now doing their internship in the ministry. They are both married with young children. I don't know if they ever continued their sexual play after that summer at camp. The only thing I do know is that my friend and I are lovers and have never had sex with anyone else after that one incident at camp almost 10 years ago.

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