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No OEA Indoctrination

Cincinnati, OH

#25226 Jun 15, 2013
Does the OEA encourage teachers to indoctrinate Ohio’s Kids?
Is the OEA monthly newsletter to teachers posted on public websites?
Do we parents know what our children are learning from teacher unionists, who believe along with the OEA, that teachers should not only be members of a labor union, but also should indoctrinate our children on unionism?

As the OEA dictates teachers in their monthly newsletter,“It’s essential that they not only be teacher unionists, but teachers of unionism. We need to create a generation of students who support teachers and the movements of teachers for their rights.”
How about they focus on just teaching our kids the core skills they will need in math, reading, writing, and science? How about they leave their political ideology and unionism out of the classroom? As the National Assessment of Educational Progress results show, more than half of America’s 8th graders fail basic civics tests. Clearly, our teachers have enough to do already.

The OEA needs to keep its left-wing views outside of the classroom and its hands off our kids’ curriculum. This type of indoctrination isn’t a surprise coming from a group with a leader who once boldly admitted it was more concerned with getting more power than the best interest of our kids.
Stop Common Core

Cincinnati, OH

#25227 Jun 15, 2013
Nearly two years ago, the Ohio State Board of Education adopted the Obama administration’s educational program of Common Core only 16 days after it was announced. There was no time for evaluation of the standards by those most closely connected to student learning – parents and local teachers.
Now we are seeing the problems inherent in Common Core as a top-down bureaucratic system. Common Core’s one-size-fits-all standards have not sufficiently been proven to work, turning our students into lab rats for federal experimentation. Furthermore, these untested standards are expected to cost Ohio taxpayers multi-millions of dollars to implement at a time when families are already struggling to get by.
Among other costs, Ohio taxpayers will be stuck with the bill for new libraries and equipment. Because Common Core requires standardized tests, schools face the burden of buying additional computers and updating textbooks to comply with this regulation.
And it’s not just the costs! Inherent to Common Core is massive intrusive data collection. Additionally, because of the push to standardize many exams, including some that private and homeschool children take, even privately educated students have reason to be concerned.
Contact your legislators and ask them to repeal Common Core! Every student is unique. It’s simply naïve for bureaucrats to assume all children and classrooms must fit into the same mold. Instead of all the red tape, schools need to hold teachers accountable for their classrooms and allow parents to choose what institution is best for their child. Parents and teachers, who are daily involved with our children, know what individual students need to succeed and how best to reach the goal of a quality education.
For the good of our students, every concerned Ohio citizen should speak out now on the importance of repealing Common Core standards and returning education decisions to the local level where they belong. Make sure everyone you know knows the facts about Common Core. Help us take a stand against education bureaucracy!
Stay Alert Voters

Cincinnati, OH

#25228 Jun 16, 2013
poundsand wrote:
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Too little, too late. They should resign in shame for a breach of trust with the community.
Breaking trust isn’t always intentional. Sometimes the person in authority violates the trust of someone else simply by failing to do his or her job well or accurately.
Citizens need to have confidence in those that are working for the betterment of Springboro sports.
Those parents who are paying these high pay to play fees must speak up and stand up to the Boosters Board bullies (including Tiffany Carlisle and Suzanne Edwards; and whoever is the current treasurer??) and follow the money trail through the accountability system of the by-laws and policies of the "business" agreement between the Springboro Schools BOE and the Athletic Boosters Board officials.
Tiffany Carlisle needs to bring her North Park protests and false accusations that board members are trying to push "parents out of our kid's activities" into the light of public scrutiny.
Last July the public heard from Booster board officials that the Springboro School Board had no authority over the Boosters board officials because the boosters board was an "outside business."
Many school district parents and taxpayers attending that public meeting last July disagree.
Now that we have new leadership of our Springboro Schools athletic program, our school district finally has the "missing link" needed to bring the Springboro Schools athletic program and the athletics boosters board officials together, working in cooperation in the best financial intersts of our school athletic program, instead of the old way of best financial interest of our individual sports coaches.
Waste Watchers

Cincinnati, OH

#25229 Jun 16, 2013
Just Watching wrote:
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Ms. Villamagna has to do something to justify that $140,000 salary.
Ms Jobe was probably just bored.
Such bully hypocrites are the likes of Ms. Villamagna, who is paid big bucks out of Taxpayers pockets to promote intimidation and ridicule of Springboro parents and our elected school board representatives. If we could get the "paid by taxpayers" political influence of the Ohio Education Association out of our children's classrooms; just think of that $140,000 being used in the best interest of our children's education. Just one bully Villamagna salary would cover the hiring of THREE good classroom teachers.
Budget first education

Cincinnati, OH

#25230 Jun 16, 2013
Our Children Our Schools wrote:
Why is the OEA standing in the way of negotiations in Springboro? Visit http://www.springboro.org for current negotiation information, the fiscal impact of accepting the OEA contract, and more. Stay informed, at http://www.springboro.org .
Just curious, how is the OEA standing in the way of negotiations? And your suggestion that we should visit the website for current negotiation information is a little disappointing since it hasn't been updated for two months. Do you know more about the negotiations?
TV Land

Cincinnati, OH

#25232 Jun 17, 2013
Budget first education wrote:
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Just curious, how is the OEA standing in the way of negotiations? And your suggestion that we should visit the website for current negotiation information is a little disappointing since it hasn't been updated for two months. Do you know more about the negotiations?
Wasn't it recently seen and heard during public school board meeting the false accusations (from the "Budget first education" bullies) that the board was using "controversial issues" as a distraction from the negotiations?
No need to ask this blogger for "proof" but to my understanding, one of the board members spoke the TRUTH to the TV camera during public board meeting, telling the community that the discussions of controversial issues going on in the public school board meetings have no influence on the continuing negotiations that appear to be going quite well?
That's the most up-to-date information that has been heard publicly; and so it is most helpful to have the school website to check for any updates that may be posted online.
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#25233 Jun 17, 2013
ACT scoring raw scores or how many did my child get right?

An ACT score report includes scores for each of the four subject area tests (English, Mathematics, Reading, and Science) and all associated subscores (which are calculated separately).

The first step in calculating a score for a subject area test is to determine the raw score for that test. The raw score is equal to the number of questions answered correctly on that test (there is no penalty for incorrect answers). Then, the raw score converted to a scaled score between 1 and 36 using a metric that takes into account variations in difficulty among different test administrations.

Below is the percentage of correct answers for each subject and the associated scaled score .

Score English Math Reading Science Composite
36..........99.......... 99..........99..........99.... ......99
35..........99.......... 99.......... 99..........99..........99
34..........99.......... 99.......... 99..........99.......... 99
33..........97.......... 98.......... 97.......... 99..........99
32..........96.......... 97.......... 95.......... 98.......... 98
31.......... 94.......... 96.......... 93..........98.......... 97
30.......... 93.......... 94.......... 91.......... 96.......... 95
29.......... 91.......... 93.......... 87.......... 95..........93
28..........88.......... 91.......... 85.......... 93..........91
27.......... 85.......... 88.......... 82.......... 91.......... 87
26.......... 82.......... 84.......... 78.......... 88..........84
25.......... 78.......... 79.......... 75.......... 84.......... 79
24.......... 73.......... 74.......... 71.......... 77.......... 74
23.......... 68.......... 67.......... 66.......... 71.......... 68
22.......... 63.......... 61.......... 60.......... 63.......... 62
21.......... 57.......... 57.......... 54.......... 56.......... 55
20.......... 50.......... 52.......... 48..........47.......... 48
19.......... 43.......... 47.......... 42..........38.......... 41
18.......... 38.......... 41.......... 35.......... 31..........34
17.......... 33.......... 34.......... 30.......... 24..........28
16......... 29.......... 26.......... 25.......... 19..........21
15......... 24.......... 14.......... 19.......... 14..........16
14......... 18.......... 06.......... 15.......... 11..........11
13......... 14.......... 02.......... 10.......... 08..........06
12......... 11.......... 01.......... 06.......... 05..........03
11......... 09.......... 01.......... 03.......... 03..........01
10......... 04.......... 01.......... 01.......... 01..........01

According to the documents on the Transparency Project our high schoolers in 2011 scored an average of 24.5.

This puts us in solid mid 70% in all subjects, in other words a solid C.

The money for real academic scholarship dollars are in the 30's.

While we may outperform the state averages, this does not translate into real academic scholarship dollars for our children.
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#25234 Jun 17, 2013
Aside from wanting to work less, get a 20% raise in base pay, and maintain the cadillac health care program, what is the OEA proposing to do about actual student achievement that shows up on ACT and OAA tests?
Wild and Wooly Bullies

Cincinnati, OH

#25235 Jun 17, 2013
sheep wrote:
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Wow, this traveling road show is a complete joke.
Lol....Badd Babb Wolves in "sheep" clothing traveling through the Boro bullying our children first is really the joke that is nothing but "wild and wooly" bully talk.
No OEA Indoctrination

Cincinnati, OH

#25236 Jun 17, 2013
We all want good schools and good teachers for our school children's classroom education; but, what we all need are elected school board members who will attack runaway labor costs; and not attack hard working local taxpayers who are generously supporting our teachers with job security, good wages,great compensation benefits, all within safe and comfortable working conditions. So WHY this OEA attack of "only WE support OUR teachers" war of words against Springboro Taxpayers? Why are the SOT bullies all wrapped up in themselves as the only taxpayers in Springboro who ARE "supporting our teachers?" Such "anri-social" hypocrities are these OEA/SEA union activists!
The OEA members are some of the worst people we will ever have to deal with as to radical social behavior; because to the OEA radicals they are at war with the taxpayers.
They have the destruction of America in their minds and they are terrible people because their ideology makes them corrosive. They openly use children to execute their maniacal plans for social progressive changes at the expense of society, and this defines their essence. Wars are won by taking away from the other side the will to continue fighting. The OEA attacks them directly hoping to rob them of their will to stand opposed to the union’s progressive agenda.
Missing post

Marion, OH

#25237 Jun 17, 2013
What happened to the post about median increases between teachers and taxpayers ?
I think it was 11% increase for teachers vs 1% for taxpayers since recession began. Where did it go?
accountability

Cleveland, OH

#25238 Jun 17, 2013
Budget first education wrote:
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Just curious, how is the OEA standing in the way of negotiations? And your suggestion that we should visit the website for current negotiation information is a little disappointing since it hasn't been updated for two months. Do you know more about the negotiations?
It's not surprising Springboro's website hasn't been updated in a while. Although typically overseen/ managed by a teacher or administrator, district websites in many districts are in fact managed by I.T.-savvy high school students.

To find the answer to this question I recommend contacting any Springboro board member. School board members are obviously elected by the people, so while in office they must remain transparent and accountable to their community. Bear in mind, if you choose to contact Don Miller, you'll most certainly get an alternative response regarding the current status of board/ SEA negotiations than if you were to make contact with any of the other four.
sheep

Springboro, OH

#25239 Jun 17, 2013
accountability wrote:
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It's not surprising Springboro's website hasn't been updated in a while. Although typically overseen/ managed by a teacher or administrator, district websites in many districts are in fact managed by I.T.-savvy high school students.
To find the answer to this question I recommend contacting any Springboro board member. School board members are obviously elected by the people, so while in office they must remain transparent and accountable to their community. Bear in mind, if you choose to contact Don Miller, you'll most certainly get an alternative response regarding the current status of board/ SEA negotiations than if you were to make contact with any of the other four.
Or maybe there is no real progress to be reported. I'm sure certain BOE members are keeping Just Watching informed. He could probably tell you.
Good News

Cincinnati, OH

#25240 Jun 17, 2013
Exciting things are happening in our school district!

It's Unanimous! School Board Adopts Children's First Budget!

Check out this website blog for great news and learn why children's first budget makes sense for teachers...

and please share if you wish:
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Find some reality

Lebanon, OH

#25241 Jun 17, 2013
If the teachers are dumb enough to strike let them. I think based upon what is reported in interest in our district is that we can fill those positions and not miss anything. There are many qualified teachers available, some have left to raise kids, change careers, or practiced in the parochial schools. Thinking that only new teachers would want those high paying jobs is not reality. Also thinking that the only teachers available are working for us now is also not reality. Some of these teachers working for us now will find that the substitutes are better than the teachers they were replacing.
Find some reality

Lebanon, OH

#25242 Jun 17, 2013
Missing post wrote:
What happened to the post about median increases between teachers and taxpayers ?
I think it was 11% increase for teachers vs 1% for taxpayers since recession began. Where did it go?
Where did this information come from? Teachers pay up 11% since the recession began?
My math is rusty but that still looks like 11 times what the community is getting. Why are they going on strike?
Lurker

Englewood, OH

#25243 Jun 17, 2013
Here's the facts on Springboro teacher pay:

Last base pay increase was 2007/2008
Last step increases for Springboro teachers was 2010 while their insurance went up 5%
Insurance changed to 15/85 in 2010
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#25246 Jun 18, 2013
This could be our collective future.

Some UNION-CONTROLLED SCHOOL BOARDS in Michigan are finding that revenue has not been keeping up with expenses, likely due to a lack of fiscal prudence and their INABILITY TO SAY "NO" TO THEIR UNION FRIENDS.

As a result, several school districts are on the brink of insolvency and they’ve stretched the patience of state officials to the breaking point.

The state House has passed legislation allowing the state superintendent and state treasurer to “dissolve” a school district if leaders fail to submit a deficit reduction plan or prove incapable of implementing such a plan. Dissolved districts would become part of neighboring districts.

That would seem like a fitting fate for districts like Saginaw Buena Vista, which had to close school for several days this spring due to its inability to meet payroll.

Responsible adults should be concerned about the effect that such poor management has on students. But the Michigan Education Association, the state’s largest teachers union, is worried about possible displacement of teachers.

The union wrote:

“…Republicans in the state House rammed through legislation late Thursday night that would dissolve the Buena Vista and Inkster school districts and leave employees in those dissolved districts without the right to a job in the receiving districts.”

Only unionized government employees think they have a right to a job. That’s not the way it works in the real world.

If a private business closes, should employees have a right to a job with a competitor? Of course not. That’s nonsense. But that’s the mindset of government employee unions.

The focus should be on the students and how best to meet their educational needs. Clearly the school employees and elected leaders in the affected districts weren’t getting the job done – otherwise we wouldn’t be reading about them.

Neither the Buena Vista nor the Inkster districts were models of academic success. Perhaps some of the teachers in those districts shouldn’t be in the profession in the first place.

But that doesn’t matter to MEA leaders. All they care about is their members’ privileges, and the dues those members pay when they are employed.

This is just another footnote in the long history of teacher union greed. But it goes a long way toward explaining how some schools got into their financial predicament in the first place. The unions have been dominant in Michigan public schools for decades, and they have nearly succeeded in sucking the financial life out of them.
PAY HAS GONE UP

Lebanon, OH

#25248 Jun 18, 2013
Lurker wrote:
Here's the facts on Springboro teacher pay:
Last base pay increase was 2007/2008
Last step increases for Springboro teachers was 2010 while their insurance went up 5%
Insurance changed to 15/85 in 2010
I wnet to the www.springboro.org Transparency Project and found the staff directory. If nobody has had a raise in five years how come all these people are making way more than they were in 2008?
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#25249 Jun 18, 2013
11.5% median income rise for TEACHERS 2008-2012

LESS than 1% median income rise for Springboro community 2008-2012

From Ohio Department of Education website under special reports, Misc category.

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