Your Take: Childhood Vaccination Exem...

Your Take: Childhood Vaccination Exemptions Rise in Connecticut

There are 188 comments on the Patch.com story from Sep 9, 2012, titled Your Take: Childhood Vaccination Exemptions Rise in Connecticut. In it, Patch.com reports that:

Some of the 1,056 exemptions for Connecticut children vaccinations from last year were related to parental worry that these vaccines could be linked to autism and other health problems in children, according to a Connecticut Post article .

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WHAT A HOOT

Winnipeg, Canada

#22 Sep 11, 2012
The_Box wrote:
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It's mindless criticism to point out that Wakefield's results were fraudulent?
Its finally sinking in.
LynneB

New Haven, CT

#23 Sep 11, 2012
Read this article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/opinion/sun... ;

From the article: "In a meta-analysis of a population study of more than a million people published last year, Christina Hultman of the Karolinska Institute of Sweden concluded that children of men older than 50 were 2.2 times as likely to have autism as children of 29-year-olds, even after the study had factored out mothers’ ages and known risk factors for autism."

Vaccines DO NOT cause autism. If there is a genetic propensity towards autism, a vaccine could aggravate it, but is NOT a direct cause.(Please educate yourselves, people. I've had both my children vaccinated with all the of the childhood vaccines, and neither one has autism. I did NOT have them vaccinated with Gardasil because studies are incomplete and inconclusive, so it's up to them, once they are 18, to decide for themselves if they want to get it. Childhood vaccines have PREVENTED more diseases than they will ever cause.)
pwilson

Trumbull, CT

#24 Sep 11, 2012
Vaccines Cause seizures wrote:
Time to cut the crap and tell the real story about vaccines. Vaccine safety and vaccine injury science is behind the times. Its far too convenient to say studies don't show a connection when its obvious proper study is not done and may not be possible. The body is complex, but we know one thing leads to another. We know vaccines cause seizures, fainting, brain inflamation, narcolepsy and death. Why is so far fetch to accept autism into that list of vaccine injury seems even more absurd when we can read about children being compensated. Similar to BIG TOBACCO science that insisted smoking caused no illness when ingested, BIG PHARMA has done the same to stall, save its business interests and avoid responsibility for a catastrophic world wide epidemic. And thats just autism.
This is the truth. Children , and pets who do not recieve vaccines during their lifetime, live longer healthier lives.
pwilson

Trumbull, CT

#25 Sep 11, 2012
The Gardisil vaccine is a KILLER
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#26 Sep 11, 2012
LynneB wrote:
Read this article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/opinion/sun... ;
From the article: "In a meta-analysis of a population study of more than a million people published last year, Christina Hultman of the Karolinska Institute of Sweden concluded that children of men older than 50 were 2.2 times as likely to have autism as children of 29-year-olds, even after the study had factored out mothers’ ages and known risk factors for autism."
Vaccines DO NOT cause autism. If there is a genetic propensity towards autism, a vaccine could aggravate it, but is NOT a direct cause.(Please educate yourselves, people. I've had both my children vaccinated with all the of the childhood vaccines, and neither one has autism. I did NOT have them vaccinated with Gardasil because studies are incomplete and inconclusive, so it's up to them, once they are 18, to decide for themselves if they want to get it. Childhood vaccines have PREVENTED more diseases than they will ever cause.)
DUH! How many men over 50 have children? It hardly explains a world wide epidemic including parents of all ages. Anyone who has EDUCATED themselves would snicker at your nonsense...snicker
Mary

United States

#27 Sep 11, 2012
friend wrote:
<quoted text>
And don't forget the scare tactic of the HPV at birth.
Just wait and see if it's a scare tactic or if it will be a reality. As with the Hepatitis B vaccine, the "uptake" is less than impressive. The reason the Hep B vaccine was recommended (try denying it and watch the anger) to newborns was that the intended beneficiaries - the IV drug users, prostitutes, and even many health care workers refused the shot. So in order to use the shot and maybe eliminate Hepatits B, it was decided to force it on one day old babies whose young mothers and fathers usually are trusting and dont question medical authority. Eureka! A perpetual money stream!! So now, the HPV vaccination is not exactly thrilling parents, and many are refusing it. So, what do you think will happen next? Do you think Merck is going to take this lying down? No, they will lobby politicians to mandate - sorry - recommend it to newborns!!!!! Day one baby! These sassy newborns NEED to be vaccinated for two sexually transmitted diseases on day one of birth!!!! The little rascals! Money stream. Of course, you dont believe me. Just watch.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#28 Sep 11, 2012
At present, it's a scare tactic since the HPV isn't given at birth nor would it be, if one understood the vaccine.

This is an autism forum. No article has yet to provide why any of the 1056 chose not to vaccinate other than some of it being linked to worry about autism. The HPV vaccine has absolutely nothing to do with causing autism, and show that the Hep B vaccine ever did. Anything else is just a rant full of scare tactics and assumptions.
LynneB

New Haven, CT

#29 Sep 12, 2012
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text> DUH! How many men over 50 have children? It hardly explains a world wide epidemic including parents of all ages. Anyone who has EDUCATED themselves would snicker at your nonsense...snicker
Obviously you haven't read the article. Nor will you, because to you "education" is believing what you want to believe, regardless of whether it's true, and ridiculing those who actually LOOK for definitive answers.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#30 Sep 12, 2012
I agree with my interesting comments of my friend, Lynne. God bless her.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#31 Sep 12, 2012
LynneB wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously you haven't read the article. Nor will you, because to you "education" is believing what you want to believe, regardless of whether it's true, and ridiculing those who actually LOOK for definitive answers.
Yeah obviously. I've been reading about vaccines and autism for 18 years and I've read everything bozo. If you think this story or old father theories are definitive answers, then enjoy. But to me its garbage. It does not qualify as a common denominator for the world wide phenomenon. There is only one, vaccination. Get it? A few old fathers doesn't qualify as an across the board common denominator and neither does genetics because of varied potential for differences. Spontaneous/regressive autism studies have show these children have mutations that DID NOT ORIGINATE WITH THE PARENTS, yet by 2.5 years they are autistic and mutated up the freekin ying yang.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#32 Sep 12, 2012
American Gentleman Samuel wrote:
I agree with my interesting comments of my friend, Lynne. God bless her.
Then you are a bozo too
LynneB

Stratford, CT

#33 Sep 12, 2012
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah obviously. I've been reading about vaccines and autism for 18 years and I've read everything bozo. If you think this story or old father theories are definitive answers, then enjoy. But to me its garbage. It does not qualify as a common denominator for the world wide phenomenon. There is only one, vaccination. Get it? A few old fathers doesn't qualify as an across the board common denominator and neither does genetics because of varied potential for differences. Spontaneous/regressive autism studies have show these children have mutations that DID NOT ORIGINATE WITH THE PARENTS, yet by 2.5 years they are autistic and mutated up the freekin ying yang.
Yes, name-calling is a sure way to get me to side with you and actually take you seriously. There have been millions upon millions of children who were vaccinated with NO side effects OR signs of autism whatsoever. How do you account for them? And I will NEVER believe that vaccines are the sole cause of autism. That's just beyond ridiculous. Again, how do you account for the MILLIONS of children who have been vaccinated who are not autistic? Because by your reasoning, they ALL should be. I suppose your parents didn't have YOU vaccinated? Perhaps they did and you feel you were cheated by life in some way? Oh, of course - it was the VACCINES! Oh, and FYI - genetic mutations DO begin with the parents or their parents. Recessive genes, they're called. Where else would they come from? NOT vaccines. Vaccines don't have genetic material. But you go ahead and believe what you want. Just don't expect others to rally round you. Jenny McCarthy made an ass of herself with her "vaccines are EVIL" rhetoric.
And see how easy it is to state a case without calling someone names?

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#34 Sep 12, 2012
#29 & #33 are more interesting comments from my good friend, Lynne.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#35 Sep 12, 2012
LynneB wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, name-calling is a sure way to get me to side with you and actually take you seriously. There have been millions upon millions of children who were vaccinated with NO side effects OR signs of autism whatsoever. How do you account for them? And I will NEVER believe that vaccines are the sole cause of autism. That's just beyond ridiculous. Again, how do you account for the MILLIONS of children who have been vaccinated who are not autistic? Because by your reasoning, they ALL should be. I suppose your parents didn't have YOU vaccinated? Perhaps they did and you feel you were cheated by life in some way? Oh, of course - it was the VACCINES! Oh, and FYI - genetic mutations DO begin with the parents or their parents. Recessive genes, they're called. Where else would they come from? NOT vaccines. Vaccines don't have genetic material. But you go ahead and believe what you want. Just don't expect others to rally round you. Jenny McCarthy made an ass of herself with her "vaccines are EVIL" rhetoric.
And see how easy it is to state a case without calling someone names?
Vaccines have genetic material and ingredients like aluminum hyxdroxide, formaldehyde and mercury that are known to be able to cause spontaneous genetic mutation. Why some children are injured is suseptabilty genetic suseptibility. Autism is not caused by recessive genes. Maybe you should research more and rant less.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#36 Sep 12, 2012
American Gentleman Samuel wrote:
#29 & #33 are more interesting comments from my good friend, Lynne.
Butt kisser

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#37 Sep 12, 2012
Your own body creates formaldehyde. Not everyone has autism. Mercury is no longer in childhood vaccines. Not everyone has autism. Aluminum adjuvants have been used in some vaccines longer than thimerosal ever was. Not everyone has autism.

Anti vaxxers have no answer why the majority who have had vaccines do not all have autism, or death, seizures, narcolepsy etc. Why other countries which don't even have the same vaccines do not all have autism, or death, seizures, narcolepsy etc. Anti vaxxers have no answer why more girls than boys. Anti vaxxers will often thrown in 'genetic suseptibility' but obviously never looked it up in the dictionary. "An inherited increase in the risk of developing a disease. Also called genetic predisposition." So in all practical purposes, anti vaxxers really agree vaccines don't cause autism. They just disguise their true beliefs as they try to cling to conspiracy theories.
LynneB

New Haven, CT

#38 Sep 13, 2012
friend wrote:
Your own body creates formaldehyde. Not everyone has autism. Mercury is no longer in childhood vaccines. Not everyone has autism. Aluminum adjuvants have been used in some vaccines longer than thimerosal ever was. Not everyone has autism.
Anti vaxxers have no answer why the majority who have had vaccines do not all have autism, or death, seizures, narcolepsy etc. Why other countries which don't even have the same vaccines do not all have autism, or death, seizures, narcolepsy etc. Anti vaxxers have no answer why more girls than boys. Anti vaxxers will often thrown in 'genetic suseptibility' but obviously never looked it up in the dictionary. "An inherited increase in the risk of developing a disease. Also called genetic predisposition." So in all practical purposes, anti vaxxers really agree vaccines don't cause autism. They just disguise their true beliefs as they try to cling to conspiracy theories.
Thank you.
LynneB

New Haven, CT

#39 Sep 13, 2012
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text> Vaccines have genetic material and ingredients like aluminum hyxdroxide, formaldehyde and mercury that are known to be able to cause spontaneous genetic mutation. Why some children are injured is suseptabilty genetic suseptibility. Autism is not caused by recessive genes. Maybe you should research more and rant less.
SOME, not ALL vaccines, contain genetic material, so I do stand corrected on that point. Please read this article:

http://facstaff.uwa.edu/dsalter/cell%20biolog...

From the article: "Genetic vaccines are quite different in structure from traditional ones. The most studied consist of plasmids--small rings of double-stranded DNA originally derived from bacteria but totally unable to produce an infection. The plasmids used for immunization have been altered to carry genes specifying one or more antigenic proteins normally made by a selected pathogen; at the same time, they exclude genes that would enable the pathogen to reconstitute itself and cause disease."

Also from the article: "Vaccines arguably constitute the greatest achievement of modern medicine. They have eradicated smallpox, pushed polio to the brink of extinction and spared countless people from typhus, tetanus, measles, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, rotavirus and other dangerous infections. Successful vaccines have yet to be introduced, however, for too many deadly or debilitating disorders--among them, malaria, AIDS, herpes and hepatitis C. This gap exists because standard immunization methods work poorly or pose unacceptable risks when targeted against certain illnesses."

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#40 Sep 13, 2012
About that DNA. Almost all living things have DNA. So the food you eat, you're eating DNA. When you get a bee sting, you're getting DNA from that bee. No one grows stinger after a bee sting. Cells don't readily exchange their DNA, except in the case of sexual reproduction.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#41 Sep 13, 2012
Anti vaxxers cant stick to one theory of why vaccines cause autism. Their theories may sound feasible to the average Joe, until those theories are debunked. First was the MMR, we all know how that went. Then came thimerosal. When anti vaxxers learned autism rates still continued, they then claimed the 'preservative' aluminum salts was used to replace thimerosal. When anti vaxxers learned thimerosal and aluminum salts have 2 very different functions, they started listed every ingredient in vaccines as a culprit. Then came the known side effects of any particular vaccine, which was never anything new to anyone. Only a totally naive person would think any medical product comes with a 100 percent guaranty. Their use of side effects is in the manner "if it does this, then it must surely do that' theory. What anti vaxxers have failed to ever do is provide the mechanism of any theory as to how it medically causes anything, let alone autism. If they ever do provide an actual mechanism, it's never backed up by reliable, trust-worthy scientific studies.

Anti vaxxers totally rely on the concept people will believe anything at face value no matter what the information lacks, and bank on no one actually doing their own research to form their own opinion. They then attack anyone who does research and finds out what they are spreading is bogus.

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