School sued for punishing teens over MySpace pix

Two sophomore girls have sued their school district after they were punished for posting sexually suggestive photos on MySpace during their summer vacation.

[mike_lee]

Good for them hope they win. When the hell did we turn our students private lives over to the state?

[Fabioso]

You have to wonder about these kid's parents, but it is totally unacceptable that a school would try to punish kids for extracurricular activities.

[Phil Loozie]

Way to go girls!!!!

Slu*s - 1
School - 0

I can't wait for the next game!!!!

See, being a slu* truly CAN pay off!!!!

[Jason Lee]

mike_lee wrote:

Good for them hope they win. When the hell did we turn our students private lives over to the state?

I CAN actually understand that schools need to get involved with students' social network stuff when cyber-bullying between students is going on.

But over "sexually suggestive photos"?

And during their summer vacation no less?

That really doesn't seem to involve the school at all.

[Quinteshia]

mike_lee wrote:

Good for them hope they win. When the hell did we turn our students private lives over to the state?

What a student does at home with the Internet on their own time is not the school's business unless it endangers the entire school or its faculty or is a terror threat. That is the parents' responsibility. I also hope these girls win.

[Mel O Drama]

What,no pictures?

[Quinteshia]

As for the Harvard professor, what part about HOME does he not understand? Only PARENTS have the right to punish kids for what happens at home.

We need a new constitutional amendment to guarantee absolute self-expression for kids. It will forbid uniforms and ban all punishment for behaviors off of school property. Children need to be taught at an early age that ALL others have a right to self-expression and that actions taken against self-expression must be punished. I mean, sure, some say letting them choose what they wear is disruptive. However, that is a good teaching experience. Those who choose to be disruptive based on what others wear are the ones who need to be punished. They can just as easily put in the rules that those who react in a disruptive manner to what others wear will be punished severely. And put a zero tolerance policy on bullying in place.

Back to texting, they can punish the ones who bring the photos or whatever to school and the ones who choose to react in a disruptive manner.

Lets see what this current rule teaches. It basically teaches that others are responsible for your behavior, that if someone does something out of the ordinary or that is non-PC, that you have the right to act in a disruptive manner. So if you see someone picking their nose in public after you graduate, then according to this type of school policy, you have a right to kick their ass, and it is all their fault for picking their nose. A mentally mature person would just ignore the person who is grossly violating the rules of ettiquette, not physically attack them. School rules need to prepare kids for the real world, not isolate them from it.

Even home school kids get a better dose of the real world because they are not strapped with counter-intuitive rules that impede their development as individuals and good citizens. And really, less socialization is better. The issue is quality socialization. If your kid comes home knocked up or a father and drug addicted, or is a victim of bullies, then they were "socialized" too much.

[William Pena]

Quinteshia wrote:

As for the Harvard professor, what part about HOME does he not understand? Only PARENTS have the right to punish kids for what happens at home.
We need a new constitutional amendment to guarantee absolute self-expression for kids. It will forbid uniforms and ban all punishment for behaviors off of school property. Children need to be taught at an early age that ALL others have a right to self-expression and that actions taken against self-expression must be punished. I mean, sure, some say letting them choose what they wear is disruptive. However, that is a good teaching experience. Those who choose to be disruptive based on what others wear are the ones who need to be punished. They can just as easily put in the rules that those who react in a disruptive manner to what others wear will be punished severely. And put a zero tolerance policy on bullying in place.
Back to texting, they can punish the ones who bring the photos or whatever to school and the ones who choose to react in a disruptive manner. School rules need to prepare kids for the real world, not isolate them from it. Even home school kids get a better dose of the real world because they are not strapped with counter-intuitive rules that impede their development as individuals and good citizens. And really, less socialization is better. The issue is quality socialization. If your kid comes home knocked up or a father and drug addicted, or is a victim of bullies, then they were "socialized" too much.

I must respectfully disagree with your first point. Children do not have the cognitive capacity to exercise reasoned judgment, especially as it relates to what is or is not socially acceptable. Rules indeed need to be counter-intuitive at times because a child's intuition is quite often wrong.

[Quinteshia]

William Pena wrote:

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I must respectfully disagree with your first point. Children do not have the cognitive capacity to exercise reasoned judgment, especially as it relates to what is or is not socially acceptable. Rules indeed need to be counter-intuitive at times because a child's intuition is quite often wrong.

That is why they MUST be allowed to make mistakes and learn from them. Isolation doesn't help.

Rules should NEVER be counter-intuitive. Allow self-expression, even if it is harmful, and punish those who CAUSE the consequences. If a boy wants to dress as a girl, that should be his right, but if others use that as an excuse to cause a disruption, they should be sent home, and if they bully, they should be expelled and sent to jail school.

[writewingproxyco ntin]

Quinteshia wrote:

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What a student does at home with the Internet on their own time is not the school's business unless it endangers the entire school or its faculty or is a terror threat.

Well, unless it involves enjoying one's "stud-ies" a bit too much with teach.

[writewingproxyco ntin]

If these students win their civil case against the school for the mildly suggestive photos online, then the student will immediately become the highest paid sex workers on the globe.

(Figuring amount of exposure and time and effort and small talk relative to the fee.)

Still would have a ways to go to eclipse the lawyer as best paid whore, though....

[Quinteshia]

writewingproxycontin wrote:

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Well, unless it involves enjoying one's "stud-ies" a bit too much with teach.

LOL!!!! Maybe that was the issue. Maybe the coach was at the party or whatever and he was in a compromising position as well. You never know these days. Male and female teachers with students. I am sure both has gone on for a long time, just at in the past, it was almost considered a right of passage for a boy to do his female teacher. Now it is seen as a criminal act.

[Quinteshia]

writewingproxycontin wrote:

If these students win their civil case against the school for the mildly suggestive photos online, then the student will immediately become the highest paid sex workers on the globe.
(Figuring amount of exposure and time and effort and small talk relative to the fee.)
Still would have a ways to go to eclipse the lawyer as best paid whore, though....

Regardless of the outcome, someone's gonna get screwed in all of this.

[Hyrax]

Quinteshia wrote:

We need a new constitutional amendment to guarantee absolute self-expression for kids.

The constitution already protects kids from crap like this.
The school is playing parent. The school has no right to punish my child's out of school activities it monitors. The polite thing to do would be to let the parent know. But the school knows how to discipline children better.
We have to rely on what the school feels is sexually suggestive?
This also looks like it's a public school. Since I can't find a tuition link anywhere.

All the more pertinent to adjust your privacy settings.

Our rights are eroding.

[John BIrch]

mike_lee wrote:

Good for them hope they win. When the hell did we turn our students private lives over to the state?

this is what you get when the teachers union pushes all this politically correct crapola to they extreme, why these clowns cannot figure out which end is up is beyond me. The supreme court ruled decades ago that one does not shed their civil rights at the schoolhouse door, but we have no shortage of pompous jerks living off the taxpayers.

[mike_lee]

William Pena wrote:

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I must respectfully disagree with your first point. Children do not have the cognitive capacity to exercise reasoned judgment, especially as it relates to what is or is not socially acceptable. Rules indeed need to be counter-intuitive at times because a child's intuition is quite often wrong.

Unless they commit a crime.

[mike_lee]

John BIrch wrote:

<quoted text>this is what you get when the teachers union pushes all this politically correct crapola to they extreme, why these clowns cannot figure out which end is up is beyond me. The supreme court ruled decades ago that one does not shed their civil rights at the schoolhouse door, but we have no shortage of pompous jerks living off the taxpayers.

The teachers union has nothing to do with this. This is the school administration and school board. My daughter called her students "thugs" on facebook and lost her contract until the union lawyer stepped in.

[Lost Sheep]

I hope they win too. Its not the schools place to check out your life other ther your school work and how you act there. I thought myspace was blocked in schools anyway so why is the school looking on it?

[i just googled this]

i dont see why anyone is sueing, isnt this what parents are supposed to do (by parents i mean the people in the big building with all the text books).

[Okay]

Since everyone complains about the schools all the time then just close them. All public schools. Not a nickle of taxpayer money for education.

If you can't educate your own child or have money for a private school too bad.

Pay for your own health care or die.

Oar for your own education or remain stupid. Pay for your own babysitters too because your kids will be home. Of course that will only be a problem for those who can't pay tuition to a private school.

Good luck with that...the dumbing down of America is now complete.