Apartheid, the Army and me

Apartheid, the Army and me

There are 20 comments on the News24 story from Feb 4, 2013, titled Apartheid, the Army and me. In it, News24 reports that:

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Vusi Siba

Europe

#1 Feb 4, 2013
I jst like to ask all this white people who went to war and killed millions of black think tht their corse was justified,and deserve to be alive and be forgiven?
Anonymous

South Africa

#2 Feb 4, 2013
Vusi Siba wrote:
I jst like to ask all this white people who went to war and killed millions of black think tht their corse was justified,and deserve to be alive and be forgiven?
No war no taking of lifes is justified not even in the name of war! Right through Africa blacks killed millions of whites and drove them like cattle out of their countries! Was that justified? So like i said not justified but we had to defend ourselfes against the blacks! Yes i deserve to be alive and no im not asking for forgiveness because i dont care a shit who forgives and who not!
pieter

South Africa

#3 Feb 8, 2013
hi vusi

go do some research and get your facts straight

looking at 7000.00

dont forget that

and it is cause , not corse
Brit Expat

Clapiers, France

#4 Feb 8, 2013
Ignorant masses after being given the vote does not produce democracy or reduce poverty.
Oliver Cromwell

Blackpool, UK

#5 Feb 8, 2013
Apartheid South Africa was just about the nearest thing to Nazi Germany we saw since the end of the War,its as simple as that.
STALLIONMASTER

South Africa

#7 Feb 9, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
Apartheid South Africa was just about the nearest thing to Nazi Germany we saw since the end of the War,its as simple as that.
Says the red neck pommie whos father's put afrikaans womaen and children in concentrasion camps and fed them crushed glass in food killing them like flies because the pommie red necks couldn't win the boer war against the men so theu waged it on innocent woman and children? Says the red neck pommie that went into india and slaugtered 100000's woman and children indian people! Says the red neck pommie that was the biggest slavers known to man and kidnapped black tore families apart to sell their men as slaves! U listen u filthy red neck pommie u have no foot to stand on when it comes to killing of ppl! So shut the fuck up go to ur fat wife and drag her off to the pub because thats the only place u fat fucks know thats why u have no more family life a youth thats not worth it to piss on! Sweep before ur own door before u come pissing in front of mine!
Oliver Cromwell

Darwen, UK

#8 Feb 9, 2013
STALLIONMASTER wrote:
<quoted text>Says the red neck pommie whos father's put afrikaans womaen and children in concentrasion camps and fed them crushed glass in food killing them like flies because the pommie red necks couldn't win the boer war against the men so theu waged it on innocent woman and children? Says the red neck pommie that went into india and slaugtered 100000's woman and children indian people! Says the red neck pommie that was the biggest slavers known to man and kidnapped black tore families apart to sell their men as slaves! U listen u filthy red neck pommie u have no foot to stand on when it comes to killing of ppl! So shut the fuck up go to ur fat wife and drag her off to the pub because thats the only place u fat fucks know thats why u have no more family life a youth thats not worth it to piss on! Sweep before ur own door before u come pissing in front of mine!
Looks like i hit a nerve,just giving you some facts you Nazi pig,Apartheid South Africa was a Nazi State.
Decode This

Montclair, NJ

#9 Feb 9, 2013
Europe oppresses Africa overtly and covertly. its about the Gold, Diamonds, Oil, Uranium, natural gas etc.
Brit Expat

Montpellier, France

#10 Feb 9, 2013
Decode This wrote:
Europe oppresses Africa overtly and covertly. its about the Gold, Diamonds, Oil, Uranium, natural gas etc.
Hmmm. Not to mention the USA! When it comes down to pure greed, there's no Country thats better
Justanyone

Gent, Belgium

#11 Feb 9, 2013
STALLIONMASTER wrote:
<quoted text>Says the red neck pommie whos father's put afrikaans womaen and children in concentrasion camps and fed them crushed glass in food killing them like flies because the pommie red necks couldn't win the boer war against the men so theu waged it on innocent woman and children?
Did the English really do this kind of thing?
I never heard about that before.
Do you have some trustworthy reference?
Alex

Johannesburg, South Africa

#13 Feb 12, 2013
Im a 45 year old male who had to do the army thing..I was forced to do it. I would just like to say that you all sound a bit racist and self-absorbed and it shows me that there is so much wrong in this world when we can talk to each other like this. I will never defend apartheid but believe that for people to judge each other many truths must surfice.

I just want to mention a few facts.

* South African young men had to join the army and refusing so ended in a jail sentence.
* The propaganda that fed the will to fight for young white men was that they where fighting a communistic regeime that would take away their freedom and christian believes.(was this not Americas concern?) I was never tought hate by my parents to any race or culture. It was never a colour thing for most South Africans.
* Apartheid ended just after Russia fell apart...tell me wonder who ran apartheid? I have first hand experience and knowledge that South Africa was closely assited by Israel and they are friends of you know who....
* I believe that through propaganda and very clever manipulations the South African government kept their voters fooled....but they were puppets to a much bigger bully. The world became smaller via the climb in tecnology and the media with it and people could no longer be fooled...
Again there is no excuse for how things were..but we must be carefull we dont create real racism. In post apartheid times white people lived confined lives because of the movement acts of non whites and had no reason to hate black people. Now we are living side by side and by blaming each other for being born in a certain country together under different roofe is not helping anyone. Specially our children and their children... cmon ..show tolerance and love..We are not born in hate..and hate does not take pain away. Yes there are many wrongs in many countries..Americas population has more far right wing supporters than the white population of South Africa (fact). Its a number thing ...
Slowly but surely we will get there as one great nation...
Alex

Johannesburg, South Africa

#14 Feb 12, 2013
excuse the spelling ..lol ..how can we live without Word's autocorrect lol

“The truth will be told”

Since: Mar 12

by miss Stoned Cold

#16 Feb 12, 2013
STALLIONMASTER wrote:
<quoted text>Says the red neck pommie whos father's put afrikaans womaen and children in concentrasion camps and fed them crushed glass in food killing them like flies because the pommie red necks couldn't win the boer war against the men so theu waged it on innocent woman and children? Says the red neck pommie that went into india and slaugtered 100000's woman and children indian people! Says the red neck pommie that was the biggest slavers known to man and kidnapped black tore families apart to sell their men as slaves! U listen u filthy red neck pommie u have no foot to stand on when it comes to killing of ppl! So shut the fuck up go to ur fat wife and drag her off to the pub because thats the only place u fat fucks know thats why u have no more family life a youth thats not worth it to piss on! Sweep before ur own door before u come pissing in front of mine!
Well I'm an Australian born and raised and my ancestors were convicts from Ireland sent here no different to slaves.The Irish never did any of these things you mentioned but were also done over hard by the Brits. I agree with the poster you are replying to. White South Africans are barbarians and I wish they'd stop coming to MY country because they are hated in theirs.

Every single saffer I've met thinks that because I'm white I should by default agree with their racist stance. I dont,and I never will.
Oliver Cromwell

Newtownabbey, UK

#17 Feb 12, 2013
Justanyone wrote:
<quoted text>
Did the English really do this kind of thing?
I never heard about that before.
Do you have some trustworthy reference?
Don't know about the glass,but yes the British put Afrikaans Women and kids in concentration Camps,thats the difference between me and Justanyone i am ashamed of that History he will be proud of Apartheid Nazi Regime.
Oliver Cromwell

Newtownabbey, UK

#18 Feb 12, 2013
Alex wrote:
Im a 45 year old male who had to do the army thing..I was forced to do it. I would just like to say that you all sound a bit racist and self-absorbed and it shows me that there is so much wrong in this world when we can talk to each other like this. I will never defend apartheid but believe that for people to judge each other many truths must surfice.
I just want to mention a few facts.
* South African young men had to join the army and refusing so ended in a jail sentence.
* The propaganda that fed the will to fight for young white men was that they where fighting a communistic regeime that would take away their freedom and christian believes.(was this not Americas concern?) I was never tought hate by my parents to any race or culture. It was never a colour thing for most South Africans.
* Apartheid ended just after Russia fell apart...tell me wonder who ran apartheid? I have first hand experience and knowledge that South Africa was closely assited by Israel and they are friends of you know who....
* I believe that through propaganda and very clever manipulations the South African government kept their voters fooled....but they were puppets to a much bigger bully. The world became smaller via the climb in tecnology and the media with it and people could no longer be fooled...
Again there is no excuse for how things were..but we must be carefull we dont create real racism. In post apartheid times white people lived confined lives because of the movement acts of non whites and had no reason to hate black people. Now we are living side by side and by blaming each other for being born in a certain country together under different roofe is not helping anyone. Specially our children and their children... cmon ..show tolerance and love..We are not born in hate..and hate does not take pain away. Yes there are many wrongs in many countries..Americas population has more far right wing supporters than the white population of South Africa (fact). Its a number thing ...
Slowly but surely we will get there as one great nation...
Good post and i can go along with most of what you said,i remember that time well i was involved in the Anti Apartheid movement,you say you had to join the Army but the bottom line is you could have refused,it wasn't just the people in South Africa who were under attack from the regime,they had a full scale invasion of Angola hundreds of thousands died because of the South African support for Savimbi a power crazed maniac,also the US were supporting South Africa and Savimbi,it was only when the Cubans backed up the MPLA that the writing was on the wall for Apartheid forces in Angola,and i believe it was the South African withdrawl from Angola that was the signal that Apartheid ws finished,the good news is the White Politicians in South Africa knew it,exept for maniacs like Terre Blanche,but i wish you and your Country well for the future despite all the problems at the moment.
Oliver Cromwell

Newtownabbey, UK

#19 Feb 12, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't know about the glass,but yes the British put Afrikaans Women and kids in concentration Camps,thats the difference between me and Justanyone i am ashamed of that History he will be proud of Apartheid Nazi Regime.
Sorry i should have said Stallion master and me.
Alex

Johannesburg, South Africa

#20 Feb 13, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text>
Good post and i can go along with most of what you said,i remember that time well i was involved in the Anti Apartheid movement,you say you had to join the Army but the bottom line is you could have refused,it wasn't just the people in South Africa who were under attack from the regime,they had a full scale invasion of Angola hundreds of thousands died because of the South African support for Savimbi a power crazed maniac,also the US were supporting South Africa and Savimbi,it was only when the Cubans backed up the MPLA that the writing was on the wall for Apartheid forces in Angola,and i believe it was the South African withdrawl from Angola that was the signal that Apartheid ws finished,the good news is the White Politicians in South Africa knew it,exept for maniacs like Terre Blanche,but i wish you and your Country well for the future despite all the problems at the moment.
Cromwell..thank you for your comment. Firtsly why would one go to jail and face charges of treason if your country teaches you that you are fighting comunism because the ANC was backed by Russia. It has much more to do than just government. Uranium mines and much more...look Cuba did not drive the SADF out of angola or anywhere. Their forces had no chnce against US and Israeli technology. The forces pulled out after thisngs started to change. I believe if Russia was still a super power apartheid might have been kept going. So many lies ......deceites ...these racist comments above are from a minority crazed individuals and not from an white or afrikaner view point. All countries have them even australia and britain....two wrong dont make a right and I wish the above would get facts before they say stuff. Use google!...go see wheer apartheid started...when did governance change. Why would one race hate another..it was not like that..myslef and millions will agree...ashamed of the ignorance ..and of being lied to and fooled..but humans are humans and not haters
Oliver Cromwell

Preston, UK

#21 Feb 13, 2013
Alex wrote:
<quoted text>
Cromwell..thank you for your comment. Firtsly why would one go to jail and face charges of treason if your country teaches you that you are fighting comunism because the ANC was backed by Russia. It has much more to do than just government. Uranium mines and much more...look Cuba did not drive the SADF out of angola or anywhere. Their forces had no chnce against US and Israeli technology. The forces pulled out after thisngs started to change. I believe if Russia was still a super power apartheid might have been kept going. So many lies ......deceites ...these racist comments above are from a minority crazed individuals and not from an white or afrikaner view point. All countries have them even australia and britain....two wrong dont make a right and I wish the above would get facts before they say stuff. Use google!...go see wheer apartheid started...when did governance change. Why would one race hate another..it was not like that..myslef and millions will agree...ashamed of the ignorance ..and of being lied to and fooled..but humans are humans and not haters
Thanks for that,yes its History now thank God,i feel in the long run things will work out fine in South Africa,there was much Hysteria about Communism at that time and when you are a teenager many people see things in a different way,its only when they are older they reflect,you were told you were fighting Communism when in fact the fight was against African Nationalism of the ANC,they told people the same thing in the Vietnam War and the Vietnamese NLF were made up of many factions not just Communists,same thing in Rhodesia under Ian Smith who commited treason against the British Crown,he was never brought to justice he plunged the region into a War that lasted years involving Mozambique and other Countries,nothing was done about Smith because the British establishment were racists and he was a White European,i think Wilson said Hell would freeze over before British troops were used against the Rhodesians,one other thing when Politicians want to get the people on side they have to have a Bogeyman,then it was Communism now its the Muslims.
Proud Saffer

South Africa

#22 Feb 14, 2013
Stoned Cold wrote:
<quoted text>Well I'm an Australian born and raised and my ancestors were convicts from Ireland sent here no different to slaves.The Irish never did any of these things you mentioned but were also done over hard by the Brits. I agree with the poster you are replying to. White South Africans are barbarians and I wish they'd stop coming to MY country because they are hated in theirs.
Every single saffer I've met thinks that because I'm white I should by default agree with their racist stance. I dont,and I never will.
Listen here you sheep shagger - You have the bloody gall to accuse ALL white South Africans of being racists and barbarians? Excuse the f*ck out of me but who the f*ck do you think you are? Some of us NEVER lived during Apartheid so to blame us for that is narrowminded and racist of you!

And FYI - when white BUSINESSMEN arrived here they separated themselves from the blacks... when your filthy white CONVICT ancestors arrived in Aus they committed GENOCIDE on the native population. You condemn us for instituting segregation? Where the hell is your own remorse and your own guilt for being the descendent of murderous CRIMINALS who tried to wipe out the people of colour they came into contact with?

Don't get all f*cking self-righteous when you have no damn leg to stand on - bloody sheep shagger.

You are a fucking hypocrite and I hope you don't give your sheep fleas - that would just be unfair of you.
Mixed Zimbabwean

Derry, UK

#23 Feb 15, 2013
STALLIONMASTER wrote:
<quoted text>Says the red neck pommie whos father's put afrikaans womaen and children in concentrasion camps and fed them crushed glass in food killing them like flies because the pommie red necks couldn't win the boer war against the men so theu waged it on innocent woman and children? Says the red neck pommie that went into india and slaugtered 100000's woman and children indian people! Says the red neck pommie that was the biggest slavers known to man and kidnapped black tore families apart to sell their men as slaves! U listen u filthy red neck pommie u have no foot to stand on when it comes to killing of ppl! So shut the fuck up go to ur fat wife and drag her off to the pub because thats the only place u fat fucks know thats why u have no more family life a youth thats not worth it to piss on! Sweep before ur own door before u come pissing in front of mine!
You Afrikaners betrayed your own friend Ian smith, you lot did not lift a finger to help him fight the war of independence instead you Boers went into Angola and Namibia to fight SWAPO guerrillas instead.

The Nazikaner nationalist government, even promised they would help the British government against Ian Smith if they prevented the late great cricketer Basil de Olivera from enter South Africa, heard of Basil de Olivera by the way.

Stop calling coloureds your family, your people never have treated Coloureds as family, in fact your people have NEVER the accepted coloureds all your people ever did was behave like Nazis towards them, through out the apartheid years your people were the enemy.

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