Mississippi school prom off after les...

Mississippi school prom off after lesbian's date request

There are 22 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Mar 11, 2010, titled Mississippi school prom off after lesbian's date request. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

A northern Mississippi school district will not be hosting a high school prom this spring after a lesbian student asked to attend with her girlfriend and wear a tuxedo.

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Emperor Norton The Second

Danville, CA

#1 Mar 11, 2010
Um, SCARED of something?

What a stupid decision! Worthy of Sarah Palin.
sNod

Texarkana, TX

#3 Mar 12, 2010
How can anyone say this is freedom? Freedom is not based on a group's agenda or beliefs. It should apply and benefit ALL people. This persecution of gays is nothing short of the civil rights movement. This is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!
Emperor Norton The Second

Danville, CA

#4 Mar 14, 2010
You are right, it is very selfish of the school board to take away the prom from these kids to avoid controversy. Good of you to notice.
Double Shot wrote:
*shakes head* Good one, little girl! You killed it for everybody! Talk about being selfish.

Since: Dec 06

Joliet, IL

#6 Mar 14, 2010
1) Printing a discriminatory policy on tickets does not make it legal.

2) You do not have the right "not to associate" with certain people at a public institution or at an event sponsored by a public institution. No doubt the many racists in Mississippi would rather not associate with African Americans; they can choose not to invite them into their homes, but they cannot keep them from coming to the prom. Personally, I have no desire to associate with a homophobic moron, but I couldn't prevent you from attending a public event. Our right to free association is limited to private organizations.

3. I knew as early as 11 that I was gay.(Really before that, but before the age of 11, I had no idea what homosexuality was and thus had no label for my feelings.)

4. Statutory rape laws would apply only if they are having sex. Dating does not equal having sex.
Tony Martinello wrote:
First, the tickets that were printed, clearly stated, "NO SAME SEX DATES".. This was and has been on there since I can remember back in the 70's.. Personally, I think the students that didn't want her there should have boycotted the Prom and left the School and the School board out of it. The ACLU are nothing more than trampling my rights not to associate with people I CHOOSE NOT TO ASSOCIATE WITH!.. It's my choice, just as it's her choice to be a lesbian. I'm not saying it's right or wrong for her.. BUT, it's MY RIGHT NOT TO DO SOMETHING I DO NOT WISH TO DO.
SO.. Your going to say I'm biased, racist, sexist, etc, etc.. NOT TRUE.. I don't care what you do, or who you do it to. BUT, I DO have the SAME RIGHTS as YOU DO.. and I deserve the SAME RESPECT that you require. WHY must I GIVE UP MY RIGHTS of association, so you can have what ever you want.
Your the ones that are biased, racist and sexist. You think because your you, you should be able to do what-ever you want, when-ever you choose to do it. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE!! I HAVE THE RIGHT NOT TO LIKE YOU FOR MY OWN REASONS. NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE!..
Also, this is a 16 YR OLD GIRL!.. Think back to when you were 16. DID YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANTED? NO!!.. Nobody did.. that's the POINT of being 16. You watch, in several years she'll change to something else just to 'push the boundaries' again. and you people will follow her like sheep.
The girl is 16.. Her girlfriend is 18.. Why is this not being investigated as statutory rape? Because she's FEMALE!!.. That's SEXIST IN-ITSELF!!
*have a great week*
The Tone!
Mike

Meridian, ID

#7 Mar 15, 2010
Mississippi -- this is your wake up call. The Toyota plant will not save you nor offset factories closing in small towns throughout the state. You are bankrupt.

The Nissan factory still has not provided that big of a boost to the state. Even with this new car plant it won't equal the tax revenue generated on the coast and around Memphis.

Stop dicking around and wasting your time on stupid prom non-issue news.

To the out of staters, I don't know wtf your fiscal situation is like but in this state 3 counties contribute 40% of the total tax revenue to the state capital. Add in 2 or 3 counties up near Memphis Tn that are considered suburbs of that state and you're talking about 7 counties that make up maybe 25% of the state population putting up 3/4 of the total tax revenue.

When you look at a map of the state ignore Memphis and the coastal area and the GDP of that area is less than 2 little counties on the coast, each with less than 200k people in it. And you wonder why when people get certifications and/or degrees from this state's colleges they high tail it to Texas or Florida or Atlanta.
Double Shot

Pinole, CA

#8 Mar 15, 2010
And it's selfish for this little girl to take away a prom experience from her peers. If they're giving her an extra hard time for this, I don't blame them one bit. I hope that parents will give them a prom, nonetheless, and continue to implement the NO SAME SEX DATES rule.

The child's parents obviously agree with her stance on the situation so why not move her to a different county?

Selfish. Selfish. Selfish.
Emperor Norton The Second wrote:
You are right, it is very selfish of the school board to take away the prom from these kids to avoid controversy. Good of you to notice.
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Emperor Norton The Second

Danville, CA

#10 Mar 15, 2010
So she should just take her status as a second class citizen? B.S.
Double Shot wrote:
And it's selfish for this little girl to take away a prom experience from her peers. If they're giving her an extra hard time for this, I don't blame them one bit. I hope that parents will give them a prom, nonetheless, and continue to implement the NO SAME SEX DATES rule.
The child's parents obviously agree with her stance on the situation so why not move her to a different county?
Selfish. Selfish. Selfish.
<quoted text>

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#11 Mar 15, 2010
Double Shot wrote:
And it's selfish for this little girl to take away a prom experience from her peers. If they're giving her an extra hard time for this, I don't blame them one bit. I hope that parents will give them a prom, nonetheless, and continue to implement the NO SAME SEX DATES rule.
The child's parents obviously agree with her stance on the situation so why not move her to a different county?
Selfish. Selfish. Selfish.
<quoted text>
She didn't take away the prom experience from her peers, the school board did that. The only thing she did was say that their silly no same sex date policy was discriminatory and should be ended. It was the alleged adults who threw the childish fit over the fact that they were being told what THEY were doing was wrong and it was THEY who screwed everyone, not her. She didn't cancel the prom, she not only wants it to go on, she wants to be their, it's the board's fault that it got canned, no one else. If her peers are giving her a hard time, they are as wrong about this as you are. They should be blaming who is really to blame, the childish adults who are running their schools and inviting lawsuits.
Double Shot

Pinole, CA

#13 Mar 16, 2010
Reread what you wrote and if you don't LOL, I feel sorry for you.
Emperor Norton The Second wrote:
So she should just take her status as a second class citizen? B.S.
<quoted text>

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#14 Mar 16, 2010
Double Shot wrote:
She's an mis-informed little girl who's going through a phase.
You know this how exactly? Despite your assumptions on the subject, most people who are gay are well aware of that reality long before their senior year of high school. Speaking from my personal experience, I came out when I was 17 and I'm talking some 30 years ago in God Bless Kansas and despite the negativity which sadly still exists, it's easier today than back then.
Double Shot wrote:
She decided to challenge the school not realizing what the consequences are.
Why should she expect one of the "consequences" of challenging an unnecessary and discriminatory rule would be that the supposed adults in the equation would throw a childish tantrum and cancel the prom? I imagine she went into this thinking that the school board would respond to her request like adults, not five-year-olds. That they would re-think a rule with its roots in an irrational bigotry, not throw a hissy fit and cancel the prom for everyone.
Double Shot wrote:
Rules are rules.
And rules which unfairly discriminate deserve to be challenged.
Double Shot wrote:
That's the problem with children these days because teen parents want to be the "cool, supportive parent" but doesn't realize the damages being done.
And you have the problem which afflicts far too many adults these days. You're living with the faulty assumption that just because someone is a teenager, or even a child, that they are incapable of knowing better than you do. This young woman saw something that was decidedly wrong and decided to fix it.
Double Shot wrote:
That's the reason why a lot of american children are confused, unrestrained, disrespectful children.
Respect is earned and given that the School Board not only had in place a bad rule, they canceled the prom in defense of it, the total amount of respect they have earned in this instance is ZERO. The only ones in this situation who have proved themselves to be confused, unrestrained and disrespectful are the alleged adults, certainly not this young woman who is standing up for what is right.
Double Shot wrote:
You want your kid to be carefree in a school where SSR are allowed?
Why not? If they are held to the same standards of behavior as opposite sex relationships in the school, what is there to be afraid of? Just because you have chosen to be a bigot, that doesn't mean everyone else has to be.
Double Shot wrote:
Move 'em! It's that simple.
No. Get over yourself and your irrational bigotries, that is that simple.
Spider

Alpharetta, GA

#15 Mar 16, 2010
Double Shot wrote:
And it's selfish for this little girl to take away a prom experience from her peers.
Its selfish for the school to take away her prom experience
Double Shot

Pinole, CA

#16 Mar 16, 2010
You mean to tell me that high school children know more than adults? Take a good look at society right now with its high school students and calculate what the percentage of the failures are. Many do not continue to a higher level of learning. Far more fall into teenage pregnancy. Many dropout and turn their $11/hour jobs into a 20 year career. A good amount follow the paths of drugs and addiction. Yet you're going to support a mind of a child? And where are the parents that are supposed to guide, protect and teach their children better? They're too busy being a cool parent, letting their children do as they please. I was a teenager once and I thought I had the world figured out and I'm sure at some point in your teenage years, you thought the same. But did you REALLY know everything then as much as you do now? This child has yet to go out in the real world. She has yet to even get a grasp of what the real world is like.

Many non-Catholic/Christian/religio us parents out there are keen on the idea of putting their children into private schools for the private education. Do you think a parent will tackle the rules in which has been placed within the school system for decades because ONE PARENT doesn't agree with his/her child praying in between classes? And this is a private school where a parent would be willing to pay privately. Get real. YOU come to MY school, YOU deal with MY rules. The school board cancelled the prom because they are sticking to their beliefs. You don't like it? Go elsewhere! I'm sure this isn't the only school in the county/state/country that'll allow such relationships.

In addition, thank you for the name-calling. It reminds me that the other side of this topic has yet to learn to refrain themselves from being childish. Kudos & good day!
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>You know this how exactly? Despite your assumptions on the subject, most people who are gay are well aware of that reality long before their senior year of high school. Speaking from my personal experience, I came out when I was 17 and I'm talking some 30 years ago in God Bless Kansas and despite the negativity which sadly still exists, it's easier today than back then. <quoted text>Why should she expect one of the "consequences" of challenging an unnecessary and discriminatory rule would be that the supposed adults in the equation would throw a childish tantrum and cancel the prom? I imagine she went into this thinking that the school board would respond to her request like adults, not five-year-olds. That they would re-think a rule with its roots in an irrational bigotry, not throw a hissy fit and cancel the prom for everyone. <quoted text>And rules which unfairly discriminate deserve to be challenged. <quoted text>And you have the problem which afflicts far too many adults these days. You're living with the faulty assumption that just because someone is a teenager, or even a child, that they are incapable of knowing better than you do. This young woman saw something that was decidedly wrong and decided to fix it. <quoted text>Respect is earned and given that the School Board not only had in place a bad rule, they canceled the prom in defense of it, the total amount of respect they have earned in this instance is ZERO. The only ones in this situation who have proved themselves to be confused, unrestrained and disrespectful are the alleged adults, certainly not this young woman who is standing up for what is right. <quoted text>Why not? If they are held to the same standards of behavior as opposite sex relationships in the school, what is there to be afraid of? Just because you have chosen to be a bigot, that doesn't mean everyone else has to be. <quoted text>No. Get over yourself and your irrational bigotries, that is that simple.
Double Shot

Pinole, CA

#17 Mar 16, 2010
And by attempting to change the rules to accomodate her selfish needs, she took the experience away from herself. There's no one else to blame but her.
Spider wrote:
<quoted text>
Its selfish for the school to take away her prom experience
Spider

Alpharetta, GA

#18 Mar 16, 2010
Double Shot wrote:
And by attempting to change the rules to accomodate her selfish needs, she took the experience away from herself. There's no one else to blame but her.
<quoted text>
The school district denied her needs, while accomodating everyone elses needs.

So she took it to court so LGBT people won't have to put up with homophobic school board foibles again next year, and the year after, and the year after that, etc etc

She is pioneering LGBT Civil Rights in a shamefully notorious backward area of the nation. Never underestimate Lesbian Power!
Spider

Alpharetta, GA

#19 Mar 16, 2010
Double Shot wrote:
You mean to tell me that high school children know more than adults?
Yes. Adults didn't have the internet.

Because of the computer and the internet, the cumulative knowledge of mankind's history has tripled in the last 20 years.

Todays' kids are right on top of it.

Even the Fulton school board is so far behind-the-times the rest of the nation is yelling "foul"!

They probably still use a manual typewriter in the front office.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#20 Mar 16, 2010
Double Shot wrote:
You mean to tell me that high school children know more than adults?
In this case it's clear that the high school student knows better than the adults in the equation and she is definitely coming across brighter than you.
Double Shots wrote:
Take a good look at society right now with its high school students and calculate what the percentage of the failures are. Many do not continue to a higher level of learning. Far more fall into teenage pregnancy. Many dropout and turn their $11/hour jobs into a 20 year career. A good amount follow the paths of drugs and addiction. Yet you're going to support a mind of a child?
Your generalizations aside, absolutely. She saw something that was clearly wrong and set about to fix it.
Double Shot wrote:
And where are the parents that are supposed to guide, protect and teach their children better?
Hopefully supporting their daughter every step of the way through this. That's what good parents do.
Double Shot wrote:
They're too busy being a cool parent, letting their children do as they please.
Another meaningless generalization on your part.
Double Shot wrote:
I was a teenager once and I thought I had the world figured out and I'm sure at some point in your teenage years, you thought the same. But did you REALLY know everything then as much as you do now?
Everybody says if we only knew then what we know now, but that doesn't change anything.
Double Shot wrote:
This child has yet to go out in the real world. She has yet to even get a grasp of what the real world is like.
She is getting a sizable dose now and seems to be handling it quite well.
Double Shot wrote:
Many non-Catholic/Christian/religio us parents out there are keen on the idea of putting their children into private schools for the private education.
If that's what they want.
Double Shot wrote:
Do you think a parent will tackle the rules in which has been placed within the school system for decades because ONE PARENT doesn't agree with his/her child praying in between classes? And this is a private school where a parent would be willing to pay privately. Get real. YOU come to MY school, YOU deal with MY rules.
If you go through a private school, you play by their rules, but this did not happen in a private school, now did it? Public schools must serve all students and that includes students who happen to be Lesbian and Gay.
Double Shot wrote:
The school board cancelled the prom because they are sticking to their beliefs.
It's a public school, that means their religious beliefs have to be parked at the door. Lesbian and Gay students in the public school setting should have the exact same rights as their straight counterparts. The school board members have no business imposing their beliefs on the students.
Double Shot wrote:
You don't like it? Go elsewhere! I'm sure this isn't the only school in the county/state/country that'll allow such relationships.
Sorry, but public schools that try to operate with that kind of attitude deserve to be sued.
Double Shot wrote:
In addition, thank you for the name-calling. It reminds me that the other side of this topic has yet to learn to refrain themselves from being childish. Kudos & good day!
If you are going to be expressing attitudes that only be described as bigoted, you shouldn't be surprised if someone calls you a bigot. Kudos to you for living down to my expectations of you....
sNod

United States

#21 May 6, 2010
Double Shot wrote:
And by attempting to change the rules to accomodate her selfish needs, she took the experience away from herself. There's no one else to blame but her.
<quoted text>
OH MY GOD!! HELLO?? It's UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

Since: Sep 09

Louisville, KY

#22 May 6, 2010
Double Shot wrote:
And it's selfish for this little girl to take away a prom experience from her peers. If they're giving her an extra hard time for this, I don't blame them one bit. I hope that parents will give them a prom, nonetheless, and continue to implement the NO SAME SEX DATES rule.
The child's parents obviously agree with her stance on the situation so why not move her to a different county?
Selfish. Selfish. Selfish.
<quoted text>
All the girls what is to dance and have fun. their not forcing your kids to do anything nor are they breaking laws. So what is the big deal if their not forcing your kids gay They what to go to a dance instead of drinking or drugs. Jeeesh what is the big deal?!!!!
okk

Girard, OH

#24 May 11, 2010
UNBELIEVABLE!!
MJs

Laurel, MS

#25 May 13, 2010
Rick in Kansas.... get over yourself.

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