Group to protest Gahanna school levy

While school groups canvas the neighborhoods of Gahanna with pro-levy literature today, an opposition group plans to have a "Tea Party" protest under the name Citizens Revolting Against Preposterous Spending. Full Story
The first to complain

Columbus, OH

#125 Apr 25, 2010
Wow wrote:
It seems that people who have children can't forsee that there are inherent expenses associated with them. Which is more ignorant, complaining about it or having those kids they can't afford in the first place? I don't see many/any complaints from people without kids who have to pay taxes for others children to attend a school and get educated.
I don't have any kids. I don't want to pay any more than I am all ready. A permanent 14.5%+ increase in property taxes is not my idea of a good time.
Thank you for listening.
The Anti Mo

Columbus, OH

#126 Apr 25, 2010
Blinded-by-The-Right wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me set The Record Straight here!
1. Mo Dion was Paid a "Commission" on The "Sale" of the land to GJS!
2. Mo's Greed "LOST" his Developement to the "Clark Hall" He was trying to bend over GJS and put it to them (TAXPAYERS)!
3. GJS School board and Administration "Turned Down" Mr. Mo Dion's BID to Develope the Area!
4. GJS had to Use Quandel Construction Service as "Construction Managers"! This is "Stae of Ohio Law"! Quandel was "LOWEST BID"!
5. "Quality and Integrity" are two words that have Dissapeared in the "Capitalism" world! Replaced with words "Value Engineering"! and "The Bottom Line"!
6. Every GJS Taxpayer should stop by and ask those working on the "Clark Hall" just how much they make per hour! Ask the Workers not the Owners!
NO MO' MO!
Dennis

Galena, OH

#127 Apr 25, 2010
Nomatter how much money we throw at the school system, it never seems to improve,
The only things that get better are their salaries and benefits!
As for Dublin, you have your own mess.
David Russell

Columbus, OH

#129 Apr 26, 2010
I wonder just how much of this enormous tax increase will go to the teacher's union for wage and benefit increases? Strange that the union's contract is up for renewal at about the same time. A teacher's job is important but no more important than anyone else's job and they are already highly paid.

Most everyone else has seen their earnings plummet or even go away with lost jobs but how much have you heard about renegotiating with or eliminating the union? With the only growth sectorr being government jobs it is time to say no to this tax increase and with governemnt spending in general.
Ant

Columbus, OH

#130 Apr 26, 2010
CHECK OUT THESE SALARIES OF GLHS EMPLOYEES...
80% of the approved levy will go toward increasing these salaries and beneifts!
http://ohiocasb.org/about/school-salary-datab...
Ant

Columbus, OH

#131 Apr 26, 2010
CHECK OUT THESE SALARIES OF GLHS EMPLOYEES...

Employee Salary is listed by location --add locations for those working listed in multiple bulidings ---nice paychecks!

80 cents of my dollar will go toward increasing these salaries and beneifts---why!

http://ohiocasb.org/about/school-salary-datab...
NO MO MY MONEY --PLEASE

Columbus, OH

#132 Apr 26, 2010
From August 24th - June 9th

- 22 days off
- 3 in service days
- 3 teacher work days - no students
- 2 teacher comp days - no school
- 2 early release days
- 1 late arrival
- 1 ASVAB testing late arrival
- Mid-Terms week - students partial days
- Finals week - students partial days
- 1/2 day teacher luncheon
- 5 days late arrival for Ohio Graduation Testing
-? snow days off

WHITE, MARK E.$130,953.00
MORRIS, GREGG E.$130,953.00
ROTELLA, DANIEL P.$126,119.00
CARTER, DWIGHT L.$123,483.00
CYGNOR, MATTHEW H.$123,483.00
ADREAN, ANGELA A.$114,254.00
BARBOZA, BRAD A.$114,254.00
OXLEY JR., RICHARD E.$112,936.00
REYNOLDS, CHAD W.$112,936.00
SCHMIDT, ROBIN G.$112,936.00
SEMER, MARK R.$111,003.00
GROVES, KRISTEN L.$110,299.00
VALLADARES, JULIO C.$110,000.00
MURDOCK, BARBARA $109,646.00
FRENTZEL, ROBEN G.$108,981.00
ERHARD, KATHLEEN M.$107,663.00
HARMON, BRETT M.$107,663.00
SCHISKA, JOSEPH R.$104,762.00
FOLTZ, RONALD R.$104,147.00
PRINCE, ARTHUR L.$104,147.00
SCHMIDT, SCOTT A.$103,708.00
SPIETH, ELIZABETH I.$103,268.00
SANFORD, JUSTIN L.$101,821.00
RATHBURN, JOHN R.$100,192.00
EVERSOLE, KRISTY S.$97,556.00
HARRIOTT-WHITE, RAE $97,556.00
MARTIN, THOMAS D.$97,292.00
MURDOCK, ROBIN M.$96,237.00
ZYNDA, SHERRI L.$94,655.00
LANGHALS, HENRY $94,392.00
HAHN, ELWOOD $93,396.00
LITTLETON, MYRA S.$93,396.00
MCCAFFERTY, ROBERT C.$92,282.00
LANZA, MICHAEL C.$91,937.00
HERR, CAROL E.$91,428.00
DAVIS, SAMUEL E.$91,129.00
RUSH, MARY B.$90,724.00
LEWIS, JAMES N.$90,074.00
GREEN, DERON C.$89,659.00
WIEGING, SUE A.$89,646.00
COCHRANE, RUSSELL A.$89,103.00
SIMPSON, LINDA R.$88,982.00
SKAMFER, TIMOTHY $88,982.00
HALL, SANDRA $88,862.00
JOHNSON, DANA S.$88,862.00
MCKIMMINS, LISA $88,862.00
HOFFMAN, PATRICIA $87,888.00
APPELL, TERRY $87,888.00
BRUGLER, ROBERT $87,888.00
CLIPPINGER, JENNIFER $87,888.00
CRAMER, ROBERT $87,888.00
DELFINO, MARSHA $87,888.00
DICKENSHEETS, J $87,888.00
GERKER, CATHERINE C.$87,888.00
GREEN, TERRY $87,888.00
KELLER, ROBERTA I.$87,888.00
MACKEY, JERRY $87,888.00
MARKS, NIKKI $87,888.00
MEUSER, MARK H.$87,888.00
MORRISON, CATHERINE $87,888.00
PUCHALSKI, PATRICIA $87,888.00
RAMSAY, MELODY $87,888.00
RATZENBERGER, JUDITH $87,888.00
RISSLER, PATRICIA J.$87,888.00
RUSSELL, DEBORA $87,888.00
SCHWADE, LAWRENCE $87,888.00
SHANNON, LINDA B.$87,888.00
SMITH, LINDA M.$87,888.00
ZAMORA, DEBORAH $87,888.00
MURPHY, DEBORAH J.$87,821.00
KELLER, SUE A.$87,677.00
SAVAKINAS, JENNY W.$87,169.00
ALEXANDER, C $86,764.00
BEGGROW, JODINE K.$86,764.00
BOWER, CHERYL R.$86,764.00
DISBRO, MICHELE D.$86,764.00
DONATO, MARY A.$86,764.00
EDWARDS, SUSAN K.$86,764.00
FALKENBERG, CHRIS A.$86,764.00
GREGORY, KARIE D.$86,764.00
GREGORY, THOMAS M.$86,764.00
GRINSTEAD, B S.$86,764.00
HARTMAN, LEISA B.$86,764.00
HOFFMAN, LINDA $86,764.00
HUGHES, JANET A.$86,764.00
KEMPF, CHERYL A.$86,764.00
KNOTT, CAROL N.$86,764.00
LEWIS, KYMBERLY K.$86,764.00
LINERODE, LYLE R.$86,764.00
PEER, LORRAINE M.$86,764.00
PHILLIPS, CONNIE $86,764.00
SCOTT, AMY J.$86,764.00
SCOTT, LORI R.$86,764.00
TOMESEK, KAY E.$86,764.00
TWIGG, LESLIE K.$86,764.00
WEINSTOCK, LINDA L.$86,764.00
BROWN, ANTHONY L.$86,202.00
DONELSON, FREDERICK $86,202.00
PETERS, PHILIP $86,202.00
PITTRO, MARCHA $86,202.00
TOOPES, ROBERT W.$86,202.00
WHEELER, MARK A.$86,202.00
WOLFE, REBECCA $86,202.00
WOOD, LANE K.$86,202.00
WOODRUFF, DAVID R.$86,202.00
DEBARD, LINDA Z.$85,328.00
GELDIS, ANN $85,077.00
JACKSON, ANNE M.$85,077.00
KASTNER, LESLIE L.$85,077.00
KIOURTSIS, JOYCE S.$85,077.00
MAXWELL, ELLEN $85,077.00
MILLER-WIARD, T $85,077.00
MONTGOMERY, DONA $85,077.00
NO MO MY MONEY --PLEASE

Columbus, OH

#133 Apr 26, 2010
PALGUTA, JENNIFER A.$85,077.00
PALMER, DEBRA B.$85,077.00
PENTELLO-LESS, D $85,077.00
POWERS, REBA $85,077.00
TOLLIVER, J. RODNEY R.$84,678.00
KERR, DOROTHY V.$84,515.00
BROHARD, PATRICIA $84,515.00
FRIONI, JEANNETTE C.$84,515.00
GRIFFITHS, KRISTI L.$84,515.00
MARQUARDT, MARY M.$84,515.00
WACHTMAN, RACHEL $84,515.00
FOGEL, THOMAS R.$84,437.00
ARMSTRONG, LITA $84,328.00
BALLARD, DIANE E.$84,328.00
DICKENS, NANCI B.$84,328.00
DOWNING, DIANNA $84,328.00
ELLSWORTH, PENELOPE $84,328.00
MCKILLIP, GARY $84,328.00
MILLER, MARK $84,328.00
SHADE, MICHAEL E.$84,328.00
TOWNSEND, EDWIN $84,328.00
VAAS, ERIC $84,328.00
ZAMORA, WILLIAM $84,328.00
COMER, JULIE $83,203.00
ENGLEHART, JERRY D.$83,203.00
FICKEL, DAWN L.$83,203.00
FLOWERS, FRANCES E.$83,203.00
FRANKLIN, VICTORIA L.$83,203.00
GROOMS, LISA $83,203.00
HENDERSHOT, B $83,203.00
HICKS, BRYAN $83,203.00
JACOB, KATHLEEN $83,203.00
KATZMEYER, SH $83,203.00
KEATING-STEWART, CA $83,203.00
LOCKETT, CLARK $83,203.00
PURDY, MARY L.$83,203.00
ROBISON, KAREN A.$83,203.00
STANICH, SUSAN C.$83,203.00
LEWICKI, KATHARINE W.$82,829.00
PALGUTA, DAVID $82,829.00
PASSA, TAMARA K.$82,829.00
BLEIMES, ROBERTA $82,454.00
COX, JUDY $82,454.00
GRIFFIN, JANET $82,454.00
KRUSE, JACK $82,454.00
KUSKOWSKI, DEBRA $82,454.00
PAGE, WILLIAM P.$82,454.00
WAUGH, PHYLLIS J.$82,454.00
SANCHEZ, ERIN M.$82,266.00
BOURGEOIS, SHERRYL L.$82,266.00
BROWN, KAREN M.$82,266.00
MATTHEWS, SUSAN J.$82,266.00
PYMER, NYSSA $81,629.00
ASSMANN, MORGAN R.$81,329.00
CLEMANS, MARY P.$81,329.00
DAUGHERTY, V $81,329.00
DORN-WACHTEL, KRISTI $81,329.00
FOUTS, LARRY $81,329.00
HUTTON, SHERYL L.$81,329.00
KOOZER, TERRI J.$81,329.00
MAUCH, LYNN R.$81,329.00
REASONER, LINDA A.$81,329.00
SHEETS, KEVIN W.$81,329.00
MILES, THOMAS V.$80,995.00
LOWERY, CHERYL A.$80,955.00
CALLOWAY, RODNEY W.$80,955.00
CLARK, PATRICIA A.$80,955.00
DAVIS, VIRGINIA J.$80,955.00
GRUNDTISCH, JON H.$80,955.00
HARDING, PAIGE M.$80,955.00
LINNABARY, CHRISTINE B.$80,955.00
MELINK, MICHAEL $80,955.00
THOMAS, KIMBERLY I.$80,955.00
HANNERS, STEVEN $80,800.00
MATTINGLY, SUSAN M.$80,580.00
PALMER, DOUGLAS W.$80,580.00
PARSONS, KIMBERLY S.$80,580.00
GAINES, PATRICIA J.$80,568.00
DONALDSON, KELLY J.$80,568.00
KUCK, DEIDRE A.$80,568.00
TELECSAN, BRENDA L.$80,018.00
ACKER, LILLIAN G.$80,018.00
BOYD, JEFFREY L.$80,018.00
BUSH, DONNA M.$80,018.00
EARLY, TINA E.$80,018.00
HENRY, CHRISTINE L.$80,018.00
JOHNSON, ESSIE M.$80,018.00
SCOTT, PENELOPE L.$80,018.00
WILLIAMS, ROBERT L.$79,081.00
BROWNING, MICHAEL E.$79,081.00
HAMMOND, JUSTIN W.$79,081.00
KAROL, BARBARA K.$79,081.00
MOSS, MARY B.$79,081.00
STRAITON, DEREK E.$79,081.00
TANCHEVSKI, LESLIE A.$79,081.00
GIBSON, KRISTA S.$78,706.00
RIPPL, PAMELA J.$78,706.00
BASFORD, PAULINE A.$78,706.00
GARNER, KATHRYN L.$78,706.00
KANKIEWICZ, C $78,706.00
KOKALES, LORI E.$78,706.00
MCCLARY, JENNIFER S.$78,706.00
PARDI, BETH A.$78,706.00
AMSBARY, HELEN E.$78,592.00
GRAY, AMY E.$78,331.00
RICHARDSON, CYNTHIA $78,331.00
STAIB, ANTHONY R.$78,331.00
STEWART, LA $78,331.00
WHITTAKER, ROGER D.$77,182.00
REED, MARY S.$76,832.00
THOMAS, EDWARD D.$76,832.00
BIRATH, JAMES C.$76,457.00
BOWER, JEFFREY A.$76,457.00
DAVIS, ELIZABETH A.$76,457.00
DEAN, LEATRICE M.$76,457.00
HAMMOND, KAREN R.$76,457.00
HANNA, TIFFANY L.$76,457.00
HENSLEY, SARAH L.$76,457.00
LEWIS, KELLY A.$76,457.00
MACIOCE, CYNTHIA M.$76,457.00
NOSE, BARBARA R.$76,457.00
PASSWATERS, S $76,457.00
SABO (HOECHSTETTER)$75,235.00
BURTON, JANET M.$74,771.00
COURTNEY, JENNINE B.$74,771.00
GORE, RITA $74,771.
BLAH BLAH BLAH

Columbus, OH

#134 Apr 27, 2010
You should actually follow these professionals and GET A JOB it's obvious you have WAY too much time on your hands!
dave

Chillicothe, OH

#135 Apr 27, 2010
coffee lover wrote:
Big T-Pickerington
Char51-Dayton
Taxed enough-NYC
Martin-Columbus
thanks for the input guys, but you can continue to ruin your own cities property values, i will be voting for the levy, and yes, i do live in gahanna
your stupid....vote NO
Old Timer

AOL

#136 Apr 28, 2010
No Mo....When you posted the salaries, this is enlightening. If those listed are good teachers, they are worth those salaries. To be transparent though, you need to add the 14% extra for board contribution to their retirement, plus the cost of their insurance premiums, to understand the true cost for individual employees.

Unions just need to realize that they have attained their goal of great wages and working conditions, and now they need to "back off" from seeking increased base increases. Your listing shows how the annual step increases work, so staff will be cared for by their school district.

Maybe if the unions would promise not to go after the new dollars for their wages or insurance premiums, would that bring a positive election outcome to the district?
NO MO

Columbus, OH

#137 Apr 28, 2010
BLAH BLAH BLAH wrote:
You should actually follow these professionals and GET A JOB it's obvious you have WAY too much time on your hands!
Hey dumbass -- It's called Copy and Paste. I hope I didn't confuse you!
BLAH BLAH BLAH

Columbus, OH

#138 Apr 28, 2010
No, I wasn't confused, but I did find it interesting that you left off the fact that many of these teachers have been teaching for 20 - 30+ years!
NO MO MONEY --PLEASE

United States

#139 Apr 29, 2010
BLAH BLAH BLAH wrote:
No, I wasn't confused, but I did find it interesting that you left off the fact that many of these teachers have been teaching for 20 - 30+ years!
In the corporate world, we sometimes are forced to make tough decisions - such as eliminating positions. It’s time to take this opportunity to "clean house", reorganize and create a "leaner and cleaner machine". I would start with looking hard at those highly paid salaries you are referring to – just maybe some have become a little too comfortable collecting a paycheck and not performing (district report card rating of “Effective” for three straight years).
We don't go to the taxpayers for more money – we make changes!
Mad as Hell

Columbus, OH

#140 May 1, 2010
BLAH BLAH BLAH wrote:
No, I wasn't confused, but I did find it interesting that you left off the fact that many of these teachers have been teaching for 20 - 30+ years!
It's time that teachers unions understood that total annual increases of 6%-8% due to step raises on top of negotiated raises is too much. When these step tables were introduced in the 70s, during a period of high inflation, teachers WERE falling behind and getting shafted. The trouble with allowing teachers’ salaries to increase 7+% annually regardless of real inflation and the taxpayers' salary growth is that private sector employees will keep having to give a larger and larger share of their incomes to ever increasing property taxes. My district's S&B budget has been growing at almost 6% annually for the past 20 years when the average taxpayers’ salary wage growth has been about 2.5-3% annually. This clearly cannot go on forever, and that's why people are saying "ENOUGH!"

Repeat after me:
1)There is no shortage of qualified teachers out there.
2)There is pressure on all Central Ohio districts to reign in salary growth

If the ohioCASB.org data is a couple of years old, that just makes things worse…Add 8% to each salary and you’ll be close to the 2010 rates.
Mark

Hilliard, OH

#141 May 1, 2010
Mad as Hell wrote:
<quoted text>
It's time that teachers unions understood that total annual increases of 6%-8% due to step raises on top of negotiated raises is too much. When these step tables were introduced in the 70s, during a period of high inflation, teachers WERE falling behind and getting shafted. The trouble with allowing teachers’ salaries to increase 7+% annually regardless of real inflation and the taxpayers' salary growth is that private sector employees will keep having to give a larger and larger share of their incomes to ever increasing property taxes. My district's S&B budget has been growing at almost 6% annually for the past 20 years when the average taxpayers’ salary wage growth has been about 2.5-3% annually. This clearly cannot go on forever, and that's why people are saying "ENOUGH!"
Repeat after me:
1)There is no shortage of qualified teachers out there.
2)There is pressure on all Central Ohio districts to reign in salary growth
If the ohioCASB.org data is a couple of years old, that just makes things worse…Add 8% to each salary and you’ll be close to the 2010 rates.
A couple problems here. The problem with your math is in using percentages without asking "percentage of what?" If starting teachers made what is average for college graduates, that might make sense. They don't. Average teacher pay is still the 2nd lowest salary of all professions that require a college degree. Yes, after 25 years, I make a decent salary (around $70K). But I started at less than $15K (not a living wage, even in the mid-80s).

Second, there is indeed a shortage of qualified teachers out there. And, since I'm in the schools everyday, let me help you understand the term "qualified". It has nothing to do with one's level of education. It has everything to do with controlling a classroom (something that is getting more difficult by the day due to the breakdown of the American family). Every teacher I know is "qualified" based on their education. Unfortunately, only about half (and very few rookie teachers) ever figure out how to create a disciplined environment where students can actually learn. Some of this is due to lack of administrative support (caving in to parents/voters). This is why so many young teachers leave the profession (especially those who start in socio-economically challenged areas.
ATTENTION TAX RAISERS

Columbus, OH

#142 May 1, 2010
Attention Gahanna Tax raising committee: The pro tax raising signs you placed along North Hamilton road at the Vista Plaza and Vista apartments have been confiscated and destroyed.

Property owner Casto Inc. owns the property. I PAY the goddamn rent and I will not allow this.
Mad as Hell

United States

#143 May 2, 2010
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>
...Average teacher pay is still the 2nd lowest salary of all professions that require a college degree. Yes, after 25 years, I make a decent salary (around $70K). But I started at less than $15K (not a living wage, even in the mid-80s).
Second, there is indeed a shortage of qualified teachers out there. And, since I'm in the schools everyday, let me help you understand the term "qualified"...Every teacher I know is "qualified" based on their education. Unfortunately, only about half (and very few rookie teachers) ever figure out how to create a disciplined environment where students can actually learn...
Teachers in this area with a BS degree and 0 yrs. experience start at $36K to $40k+ annually (well, for 9 month’s work anyway). My nephew graduated in business with honors and the job he accepted in the DC area is paying $40K (for 12 months work less a couple weeks of paid vacation). That doesn’t sound like much difference to me. His job also doesn’t come with the guarantee that his salary will double every 10-12 years for doing the same thing year after year. When people in the private sector want more than a cost of living raise, they either take on more responsibility (i.e. promotion) or are exceptional performers. In the old days teachers (and public sector employees in general) traded less pay for the security of tenure, a great pension, guaranteed step raises, and union protection of poor teachers. Now they have all that AND wages comparable to the private sector. Plain and simple, we’re tired of paying for salaries and benefits that are growing 2-3x faster than our own.
Another issue is the union's "all for one and one for all" approach to salary increases. The best teachers and worst teachers all get the same raises, and trying to change that has met with steep resistance. Name one Central Ohio school district that is willing to make sufficient concessions to be eligible for federal Race To The Top funding. The key sticking point is the performance pay. Our districts are giving up money from the feds because it’s easier to extract it from the local taxpayers when they don’t have to change the status quo.
I was told by a member of my district’s administration that for every opening they post, they get 30+ qualified applicants. So I'll maintain my position that there is no shortage of good teachers out there. If you believe that up to 50% are ineffective in the classroom, then that doesn’t jibe with the union’s assertion that there is “no fair way to judge a teacher”; therefore, they resist paying for performance and continue to protect teachers that are ineffective. You teachers who know better need to change that from within.
Mad as Hell

United States

#144 May 2, 2010
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>
How do we get this changed? Great question. Apparently the Ohio Supreme Court declaring the system unconstitutional (numerous times) was not enough. But if you believe many of these posters, the answer is that you punish school children, torpedo your own property values, and watch your community turn into a war zone (like happened in South-Western and Reynoldsburg). I might suggest that if we could channel some of that protest energy to the Ohio Legislature instead of committing community suicide, it might just be a better idea.
Way to deflect the issue, Mark! The Ohio Supreme court did not declare the entire current system unconstitutional, they simply said that "over reliance" on property taxes is unconstitutional because it creates too much disparity in school funding between wealthy areas and poorer areas. They’ve already addressed this by redistributing state funding. That’s why a lot of the suburban districts are getting less money from the state than they used to. There is no “fix” as long as unsustainable spending increases by school districts are the norm.

I agree that levies are needed from time to time due to how the millage system works, but they are larger than they need to be and/or more frequent than they need to be because of the rapid, union mandated, growth in salaries and benefits. I’m sure a levy half the size GJS is proposing would maintain all the current programs and services and still give the staff a small raise. The issue is the unions want to continue to strong arm the taxpayers for above market increases just because they can and feel entitled to it.

Since you are a teacher, let me ask you: Would you rather have a 4% raise and 6% more students in your classes due to layoffs or would a 2% raise be fine as long as none of your colleagues lose their jobs and your class size remains the same? That’s the real question for you guys on the inside – if you would rather have reasonable raises and a greater chance of a passing levy, you and your fellow teachers need to let your unions know.
rambler01

Columbus, OH

#145 May 3, 2010
I have lived in Gahanna for 15 years this is the first levy I can remember Good schools good place to raise your family! Those who can't afford it should move to a lower tax area. There crime is high and the schools are below average not for I will vote yes!

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