Christian Father Sues to Keep Kids From Learning About Sex and Sexuality but He's Not a Bigot

Sep 10, 2012 Full story: www.womanist-musings.com 320

Steve Tourloukis, a parent whose kids attend school in the Hamilton-Wentworth area, has asked to be given advanced notice when the teacher plans to teach sex education, so that he may remove his children in order not to conflict with the Greek Orthodox Christian teachings in the home. When the request was denied, he decided to sue.

Okay, I understand that Dr. Tourloukis has religious beliefs; however, schools are public institutions funded by public dollars. I highly suspect that his issue has a lot to do with schools teaching about same sex families and homosexuality. If he really didn't have a problem with the LGBT community, he wouldn't have an issue with his children learning that members of the GLBT community deserve equal treatment in society and should not exist with a stigmatized identity. As it is, the information given in school does not even approach the necessary level to teach children about heterosexism, cissexsm, homophobia and transphobia.

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hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#155 Sep 15, 2012
CaDad wrote:
And FYI molesting is just that ,molesting. Grooming is the way to program them for your desires, nothing like trying to trivialize a point. Is that the best you can do?
In other words, here, the poster is repeating a point upon which two lines of attack have opened his assertions to *GRAVE* doubt:

1. the assertion that if what he said is true,*LOGIC* dictates that the antigay would take it into courts of law nationwide;
2. the assertion that the poster is lying outright.
CaDad wrote:
And by the way, there are many a kid really messed up ,
This was surely unintended humor. We're reading this poster's *train wreck of a series of responses*; we're well aware some kids are "really messed up."
CaDad wrote:
I never said you could turn a kid Gay, but from what I read, it's pretty devastating, all the worse if its the same sex.
This is, in fact, a possible point. The poster may have a point about its being "worse" if it's the same sex.

Why do I leap to defend the poster?

Tut, tut, tut.

Because think further: If what he says is true,*IT INDICTS THE ANTIGAY* and not gay people. The molester would be indicted for the molestation; the *ANTIGAY* would be indicted for the child's view or his family's view or society's view that it was literally *WORSE IF HE WERE MOLESTED BY THE SAME GENDER THAN BY THE OPPOSITE ONE*, leading us to a curious point.

I recently discussed this point on the board with someone here.

The ferocity of hatred against gays is so severe that the "gay = pedophile" claim is ubiquitous (among the antigay, mind you). Their reactions are so virulent and hysterical over the idea of molestation by the same gender

that they seem implicitly

and silently

to be *condoning molestation by the opposite gender*.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#156 Sep 15, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>
Not true. Why are you repeating things that are not true?
He's been doing that the whole time. You logically *diagram on a public board* why he's lying, in front of the world; he lies again instantly. He often tells *the same lies* again instantly.

Hey, don't take my word for it. The thread's right here, every last post of it.
Mona Lott wrote:
Dr. William C. Holmes, Assistant Professor of Medicine, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, authored a study in the December 1998 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association that indicated that 98 percent of all male perpetrators who had sexually abused boys were identified in their families and communities as heterosexual.
"CaDad" is gonna hate hearing this; it doesn't allow him to hate, to slander, and to lie.
Mona Lott wrote:
Researcher Carole Jenny found, in a 1994 study, that “a child’s risk of being molested by his or her relative’s heterosexual partner is 100 times greater than by someone who might be identified as homosexual.” Of the 93,000 sexually abused kids in the US in 1999 (the last year of available statistics), half of the children were sexually abused by their parents (Sandusky), while other relatives committed 18 percent of the offenses.
In other words, sexual orientation isn’t a factor in determining child sexual abuse.
Maybe "CaDad" knows deep down why I keep taunting him about the courts. He's now getting a taste of *WHAT* the pro-gay would take *INTO COURT* if the antigay tried to claim all molesters are gay.

Learned studies by learned individuals who have *documented their findings*.
Mona Lott wrote:
The research is clear that the sexual orientation of an adult is not a factor in the analysis of child abuse. The American Psychological Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the American Academy of Child Psychiatrists and the Child Welfare League of America all have policy statements stating there is no correlation between homosexuality and child abuse.
Thank you.

Perhaps "CaDad" now realizes why it's sooooo much fun to *TAUNT* the antigay to take their claims into court.

I kept getting "right in his face," metaphorically speaking, about it. I like doing that; it's fun. You have now diagrammed to him *exactly why*.

Thank you.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#157 Sep 15, 2012
CaDad wrote:
What Science Mona-your crap gay Gene theory?
And I might add your research is a tad old, I am not too sure if I should educate you. You do not seem to like facts.
My guess is, Mona won't mind if you try to "educate" him or her, and won't even blink.

But you can try for yourself.

These people have seen the likes of you many times, and *trace your lies* quite effectively. I am often mightily impressed.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#158 Sep 15, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>
Weak, dude.....
Be an ignorant s.o.b. I really don't care. You don't even care enough about your children to tell them the truth.
The antigay don't care about kids. It's part of the reason I think they're so goddamn sociopathically sick. I think of that woman in Florida, or wherever?, Casey, Lacey?
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#159 Sep 15, 2012
CaDad wrote:
<quoted text>
I care enough about them to keep them from real monsters like you and Hi HI
you be the real monsters.
BOOM, you proved Mona's point.

*Fact* is irrelevant to you. Your *prejudice* is all that matters.

Mona tells you you're appearing like a bad parent for lying to your kids.

Like a dumbass who just got a load of satan down his throat, here's YOU responding by telling Mona *YOU WILL CONTINUE TO LIE* to your kids.

Congrats. You fell right into that one, champ.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#160 Sep 15, 2012
CaDad wrote:
As Americans we do not have to work for anyone we choose including but no limited to lesbians or gays. I guess the Constitution only applies to this sick minority.want to bet the Judge was gay? Yesiree!!!! Now the truth comes out.
Why would you say this when they can cite all the DOMA decisions and show you *that all those judges were straight*?

They could sit here and *catalog the cases*, slamming you yet again because you don't like facts one bit. You can't stand them in fact, from what it seems.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#162 Sep 15, 2012
CaDad wrote:
And I do tell them the truth, the real truth about those masquerading as good that are evil,
Direct, utter lie. There's no way I believe you tell them that the antigay are evil incarnate: pretending to have a moral code and to adhere to the word of god while they *slander and lie about others*, breaking every commandment in the book, pretending a morality they *dismiss and revile*, acting like unrepentant, ungodly filth.

I've got a bridge to sell you, champ.
CaDad wrote:
those that speak out of both sides of their mouths,
Right, like the antigay -- like I just mentioned.

Oh, that's right, my documenting this *via logic* will only terrify you and cause you to deny, deny, deny.
CaDad wrote:
thee ones who lie and seek to undermine them
See responses above.
CaDad wrote:
Yep-I wonder who it is I am talking about?
You're proving Mona's point, that's what you're doing. This is almost comedic at this point.

It *ABSOLUTELY GODDAMN IS* the antigay who *DO NOT* know when to *SHUT* their mouths, holy moly.

Hooooly moly.

We're all *WATCHING YOU* prove Mona's point not just once or twice but over and over, like a blabbering, nattering, whingeing puppet.
CaDad wrote:
It is a classic case of The God fearing against the idolaters.
Weird, I don't see anyone fearful here. I see everyone answering you right back and (metaphorically) getting rrrrright in your face again,

and again,

and again;

you call that fear?

Know what I call fear?

Antigay attorneys *who won't take your allegations into court before judges*.

They're pussies. Nothing but.
CaDad wrote:
Do you keep a golden Calif in your home Mona?
No one cares what you think of their moral code.

When you get into your skull that this is because *you appear so amoral it's frightening*, you'll be ahead of the game.

Until then, you are *powerless* to influence anyone else.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#163 Sep 15, 2012
Gay And Proud wrote:
<quoted text>
Children learn the lessons of our behaviour as parents despite the lessons we think we are giving them. Yes, you are teaching them about hypocrisy and lying. And those lessons are not the ones you think you are teaching them.
If your children interact with anyone outside your household they will learn their lessons well. And if you're wise you'll beg your children for their forgiveness for the harm you've done them by trying to teach them hate.
Happens so many times. The kids grow up to see the parent as rotten, weak, disgusting, hypocritical and worthless. It's sad, really. There is no justification for these prejudices, as they *are* identical to prejudice against *BLACKS* or *WOMEN*, period.

Those prejudiced against *BLACKS* and *WOMEN* were soooooooo convinced they had airtight logic; they behaved *EXACTLY* like this guy behaves, like the antigay behave. That's how prejudiced people behave! They do not learn from history; they see *their* cause as the final "correct" one.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#164 Sep 15, 2012
NoQ wrote:
<quoted text>
STFU Queer, you spout off way too much. No one wants to read a book on the subject.
Interesting, now you know how others feel when you shoot your snot-infected snout off and don't learn to shut your mouth and know your place.

Learn your place and maybe others will listen to you, infected pig.
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#166 Sep 15, 2012
well here we go again, another male coach molesting the kids, this time in Texas. See-happens dam near every Day.
Man, what a blowhard you are Hi HI
Wow NoQ, you must have really hit a nerve lol.
Mona Lott

Brooklyn, NY

#167 Sep 15, 2012
Discriminated Christains wrote:
<quoted text>
A New Mexico studio photographer refused to do photos of a lesbian couple and their wedding. The photographer cited her Christain beliefs for her decision. She was taken to court and lost and FINED $6,500.
You sniveling whiny little lying coward you.
Chalk that remark up next to you stating the U.S. as being a continent.
Pinhead!
What makes you think "christians" don't have to follow the law? The photographer BROKE THE LAW...she wasn't discriminated against.

And the $6500 was NOT a fine. It was lawyer fees... BIG DIFFERENCE!

Telling a lie to make your point makes you look pathetic.
Mona Lott

Brooklyn, NY

#168 Sep 15, 2012
NoQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Learn YOUR place you dick licking Fa$$ot, and quit acting like you're the almighty know it all encyclopedia. I'd call you an infected pig, but no doubt it would be an AIDS infected pig.
Closet queens are so sad.
Mona Lott

Brooklyn, NY

#170 Sep 16, 2012
NoQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you on this, if they're a co:cksu;cking fa$$ot, they should get the fk out of the closet. LMFAO
Come out, then. You know you want it. It's all you ever write about.
Vic

Pekin, IL

#171 Sep 16, 2012
Teaching that a homosexual lifestyle choice is 'ok' or 'equal' to following God's Laws is in open conflict with Christianity.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#172 Sep 16, 2012
Vic wrote:
Teaching that a homosexual lifestyle choice is 'ok' or 'equal' to following God's Laws is in open conflict with Christianity.
David, David, David, that would be your choice of versions of Christianity, because not all Christians agree with you on that. Oh, and while they aren't your kind of Christians, you really have no say into whether they are God's kind of Christians.
Mona Lott

Brooklyn, NY

#173 Sep 16, 2012
Vic wrote:
Teaching that a homosexual lifestyle choice is 'ok' or 'equal' to following God's Laws is in open conflict with Christianity.
No one is required to follow your god's laws.
Mona Lott

Brooklyn, NY

#176 Sep 16, 2012
CaDad wrote:
Oh Really Mona, are you a closet Lez?
When all else fails attach with stupid, ignorant crap like that.Maybe, Justmay, someone will side with you lol
Anyways I digress
Pastor get 300 years for molesting boys in Southern Ca.
Yet another Gay Pride Dude doing his thing.
They hide everywhere, churches,sports , and they desperately want in the schools to teach them abnormal sex is a good thing-wait-their already there!
Still confusing pedophiles with gays, eh?

Since: Apr 08

Chagrin Falls, OH

#177 Sep 16, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>
Still confusing pedophiles with gays, eh?
Not surprising since there is also obvious confusion between things like hate and love.
Cradle Robbers

Pittsfield, MA

#178 Sep 16, 2012
The Troll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody who uses made-up words like "homofascist" in his/her/its user name deserves to be taken even the slightest bit seriously.
You're dismissed. NEXT!
So much for homophobe.
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#179 Sep 16, 2012
Mona-one and the same it seems. here is another factoid, 10% of boys report being assaulted by men.
You certainly seem to have a fair amount of them among you-which is why you want the kids. Makes perfect sense.

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