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Ed Willis
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It dawns on me that the public school system is one of the few socialist institutions this county tolerates. Citizens are told what schools their children will attend with almost no say in the matter. Of course, you can pay private school in addition to the taxes you pay to the public schools, but for most that is not an option. You can complain that you are assigned to a D or F school but that is the equivalent of tilting at windmills.
Charter schools are the only choice most citizens have. The 9000+ student waiting list for the Pembroke Pines Charter schools speaks volumes about what choice Broward residents would make.
Members of the school board; we are watching. We are comparing. And we don't understand why you don't support programs as successful as the City of Pembroke Pines Charter Schools. You may not allow us to choose our schools, but rest assured that we will choose their leadership.
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mira
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Why should I pay for your private school? Your commission caused the school situation by allowing building but no schools.Why don't you tax your residents for funding?
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Lex Steele
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It appears to me that charter schools are made up of really dumb and poor kids.
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Dear Mira and Lex
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All charter schools without exception are public schools. The Pines City Commission didn't cause the school overcrowding that the charter schools corrected, they simply responded by building new schools when the incompetent school board refused. And charter schools are not permitted by law to tax the public.
So forgive the suggestion, but for someone with strong opinions it doesn't sound like you have much knowledge of the subject.
As for Lex's insights, he makes Mira look like a Rhodes scholar.
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get a life
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Lex Steele wrote: It appears to me that charter schools are made up of really dumb and poor kids. seems to me that you are on every blog! get a life
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mira
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Dear Mira and Lex
Thank you for correcting me on the possible taxing is not allowed however I am correct on the city commission did issue those permits and could have land and impact fees set aside for students during the building.The city wants my tax money however the pick and chose who is allow to attend.Weston has the same problem but no land.I can also correct some Comm. Castillo comments regarding the School Board buying swamp land. Where does he think PP is built on?
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Mira Still Wrong
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During the years that West Pines was being developed the city collected all the money and land that the school board requested from developers for schools. All those millions that the school board collected got spent somewhere else because Pines never got all of those class seats from them. Instead Pines had to create the charter school system because city residents demanded less crowded schools. Go check the record, that is exactly what took place.
Students in the charter schools are selected by lottery not by city workers and what Comm. Castillo seems to be referring (swamp land) is the school board buying worthless land in SW Ranches. They paid millions for it only later to learn they couldn't build anything on it. In fairness that's pretty shameful. How could anyone competent not know what kind of land they were buying.
The point of the article is that the school board treats the charter schools unfairly. It's a point is well taken.
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Den-
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From what I remember on the establishment of charter schools the main reason for their existance was that the private concern on them was suppose to provide the buildings and facilities. Now Pembroke Pines wants the School Board to provide that money for them. If that is the case why doesnt the school board replace the charter schools there and incorporate them into the school system completely. Be careful what you wish for.
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Missy
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Charter Schools want school board money but do not have to abide by school board rules. Charter schools want all the benefits of the public system without the responsibility
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Den and Missy
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Charter schools were created to offer parents choice and involvement in the education of their kids. The education law allows the school board to share funding equally with charter schools. The reason the school board refuses to do that is because so long as any other public school entities exist, they can't lie to the public about what can and can't be done with tax dollars and public education. The existence of charter schools interferes with their propped up, paper thin monopolistic agenda. But in America, competition always brings out the best in all of our institutions. There is no question that public education started improving nationwide in America soon after the creation of charter schools. It was one of a series of factors in that resulted in improved education. Until then, all we got was excuses for why kids couldn't learn but they are learning better today in albeit an imperfect system than they used to years ago in an even worse system of education. People that refuse to accept that reality are in denial and the public sees right through the rhetoric. If the school board in Broward were to take over all of the charter schools in Pembroke Pines, they would never deny any of those schools capital funds, and they would have to pay millions they don't have to buy the schools from the city. It would be much more expensive for them to buy the schools than fund them properly. Yet they refuse, and the reasons are quite simply evil. They pick on charter schools by abusing their power. And this fact provides all the evidence a reasonable person should ever need as to their bad faith. Charter Schools abide by all school board and state rules imposed on them. Really, it either seems that people have no clue what they're talking about or are intentionally trying to mislead the public. But thankfully there's always the truth to clarify the record. Charter schools in Pines are nationally accredited, the buildings exceed state educational building standards, the teachers are certified, are represented by BTU, and have a better pay scale than do district school teachers. Even the BTU and school board members say that they should fund Pines Charter equally. But what they say and what they do are two different things. They won't, they can't bring themselves to do it because they can't get over the fact that they don't have the monopoly that they require in order to have no accountability to the public. Charter schools are closely monitored by the school board themselves to uphold all the responsibilities of school board and the law imposes on them to run those schools. The only difference is they get shafted when it comes to funding. But that's all about to change. Residents know better now, they can see through the excuses and the lies. And they will soon start throwing school board members out of office who don't support equality. And all of the kids, teachers and parents will benefit from that event, schools too. These are exciting days in education. The fog is clearing and things are starting to change for the better. All the ill will, confusion and lies about charter schools are being exposed for what they truly are and that's great news for education.
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yoohoo
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Back in his time, Socrates taught millions without any kind of funding. So there is NO excuse!
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Old Days
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Socrates never taught millions and for sure he wasn't a union member.
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Missy
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I stand by my statement. As an insider I know that charter schools pick and choose which school board rules they want to followl. They may be accountable to the state, but they are not held to the same standards as public schools.
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Insider My Foot
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Isn't it amazing what folks will do to contort reality to the inevitably obvious lie they want folks to believe but can't prove otherwise? Missy says she's an insider, and so she must have really true information. Well's here's the obvious part. The school board would make tremendous hey out of any instance in which the Pines charter system was somehow out of compliance with anything. Somehow they don't. You figure out why. Further, the latest all A-rated outcomes, demonstrates that Pines charter embraces the same if not higher standards. Pines charter is a public school and it is bad policy to allow any entity the right to fund some public school students this way and other public school students that way. I thought Brown v. Board of Education made all that crystal clear but apparently not. It is that very same mindset that we are struggling with now. The school board is discriminating against charter schools because they don't like the competition that inadvertently occurs, and so they want to kill the charter school movement. That is malicious and wrong. People see it for what it is, they see right through all the distortions, and that's why it will all come to an end soon. Americans don't stand for tactics like allow any of our children to be treated like second class.
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Dan Guzman
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Where did you get that information Lex Steele? Before you make up such a negative remark, please follow it up with some proof. Lex Steele wrote: It appears to me that charter schools are made up of really dumb and poor kids.
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Dan Guzman
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Den, I appreciate your response and I am not very aware of the politics and the choices that were made or not. The only thing that I know is that I have two children in that school system. They both came from there grammer school program and one will now be a senior and the other will be a sophmore. They are doing extremely well in school and it would be ashame if they close these schools down due to lack of funding. Would it matter to me if they switch over from a charter school system to a Broward County School Board System. I'm not sure. Why ruin some thing thats succesful? Why take the kids out of a school that they have pride in and put them in other schools and have to make them have new friends? Im a Pines resident and if you were in my shoes, even though its a lottery pick to get your child into its system, it beats the hell out of the over crowded systems. I hope we the people can do some thing to make this work out. Den- wrote: From what I remember on the establishment of charter schools the main reason for their existance was that the private concern on them was suppose to provide the buildings and facilities. Now Pembroke Pines wants the School Board to provide that money for them. If that is the case why doesnt the school board replace the charter schools there and incorporate them into the school system completely. Be careful what you wish for.
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