'Trust-mill' operators still refuse t...

'Trust-mill' operators still refuse to pay fine

There are 5 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Dec 23, 2009, titled 'Trust-mill' operators still refuse to pay fine. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

It appears the Ohio Supreme Court's attempts to collect more than $7 million from two companies accused of scamming senior citizens are not going well.

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M Fisher

Northridge, CA

#1 Jul 5, 2011
These guys are still operating in Ohio under Millennium Financial and using Independent agents to roll business. Mr. Norman nas made personal appearances there, even though banned by the state from doing so. He uses and alias "Richard" Bai or SongTao Bai. The name on the corporation is his current female fling! and her son or family members. He uses other names too, like Fidelity Deposit Corporation or AAFB or American Association of Family Benefits.
Bankruptcy Court

Long Beach, CA

#2 Jul 19, 2011
Mike Fisher aka WESI aka EESI aka ESG has duped an entire state or two concerning a non-profit company sold for a "profit". It is my understanding that a "non-profit" company cannot be sold for a "profit", hence the name "non-profit". Well Mr Fisher has duped all of his "clients" for years now claiming how he has been under immense pressure from companies trying to "steal" his clients, when according to court documents, Mr. Fisher "sold" his client database for an undisclosed sum. Which happens to be the Western Estate Services Inc client database, which was filed with the federal government as a non-profit. Maybe I am misinformed but I believe the next thing he did was dissolve WESI through bankruptcy, yet there was no report of the profit he made selling the database, no reporting of that to the bankruptcy courts either, is that not against the law any longer? And all this time he had us believing he was the victim!!! It is clients like us that are victims, he's just another one of the dishonest people of a wacky web of corporations claiming to be responsible for our estate plan. My advice....run as fast as you can away from him or anyone associated with him.
Mike Fisher

Northridge, CA

#3 Apr 16, 2012
Whoever wrote the comment about me is obviously mis-informed or works for or with Stan Norman. My name is spotless with my clients and online. I did not sell any database to anyone and have always guarded my clients no matter what. I did have to file a Bk due to extreme legal fees from other companies trying to steal my life's efforts and suing me and of course I had to defend myself. In the end, we will all stand before a Holy God without excuses. I am looking forward to that day!
Mike Fisher

Northridge, CA

#4 Apr 16, 2012
WESI also NEVER filed bankruptcy, but was voluntarily closed due to the request of the board and its assets were donated to other charities.
A client

Scottsdale, AZ

#5 Feb 23, 2013
Mike Fisher wrote:
WESI also NEVER filed bankruptcy, but was voluntarily closed due to the request of the board and its assets were donated to other charities.
So what happens to clients like me who created a TRUST with WESI in 2006....before Michael Fisher and WESI encountered their issues? We were promised free annual reviews and updates....how do we do that now? Ironically,we have no idea who to trust with our trust. I appreciate that Michael Fisher says God will be the judge but clients need to know now!

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