An 11-Year-Old Is Suing the Jehovah's Witnesses

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Alexis

San Antonio, TX

#54 Apr 30, 2013
I am a proud Jehovahs Witness and just read this article. For all we know those claims could be false. A minor raping a child inside a congregation while an 8 year old watches? That is an obvious lie which would never happen. I wish they could do a lie detector test to that 11 year old.

This is what makes me even more suspicious: "I spoke with Steven Unthank, an ex-Witness whoís launched a crusade against the sectís policies toward children and who helped the boy (who canít be named in the press under Australian law) file the suit."

So an EX-JW out of no where helped the boy file the suit and launch a crusade.... How ironic. And to top it off the boys name can't be said.

I don't know if anyone else notices this but it's all very suspicious with lots of contradictions and loose ends. For all I know there's money involved.

I will not be apart of this conversation because I know there's people that like to hate on us.
Please keep in mind that they are minors that rape in all other religions and also atheists but 1 news article about JWs comes out and everyone attacks us. Makes me laugh actually.:)
Anonymous

Rio Rancho, NM

#55 May 1, 2013
Alexis wrote:
I am a proud Jehovahs Witness and just read this article. For all we know those claims could be false. A minor raping a child inside a congregation while an 8 year old watches? That is an obvious lie which would never happen. I wish they could do a lie detector test to that 11 year old.
This is what makes me even more suspicious: "I spoke with Steven Unthank, an ex-Witness whoís launched a crusade against the sectís policies toward children and who helped the boy (who canít be named in the press under Australian law) file the suit."
So an EX-JW out of no where helped the boy file the suit and launch a crusade.... How ironic. And to top it off the boys name can't be said.
I don't know if anyone else notices this but it's all very suspicious with lots of contradictions and loose ends. For all I know there's money involved.
I will not be apart of this conversation because I know there's people that like to hate on us.
Please keep in mind that they are minors that rape in all other religions and also atheists but 1 news article about JWs comes out and everyone attacks us. Makes me laugh actually.:)
Too late you already commented. So now you get a feel for how Christians and others feel when the watchtower attacks all other religions and individual Christians on a weekly basis. The feeling you have a people hating on the watchtower is what is felt when the watchtower hates on other people, and does it quite often and teaches you and your brethren to hate on others, even your own family members. And I would say the watchtower bashes the catholics more than any other media in the world.
UGETTHAT

Braeside, Australia

#56 May 1, 2013
Alexis wrote:
I am a proud Jehovahs Witness and just read this article. For all we know those claims could be false. A minor raping a child inside a congregation while an 8 year old watches? That is an obvious lie which would never happen. I wish they could do a lie detector test to that 11 year old.
This is what makes me even more suspicious: "I spoke with Steven Unthank, an ex-Witness whoís launched a crusade against the sectís policies toward children and who helped the boy (who canít be named in the press under Australian law) file the suit."
So an EX-JW out of no where helped the boy file the suit and launch a crusade.... How ironic. And to top it off the boys name can't be said.
I don't know if anyone else notices this but it's all very suspicious with lots of contradictions and loose ends. For all I know there's money involved.
I will not be apart of this conversation because I know there's people that like to hate on us.
Please keep in mind that they are minors that rape in all other religions and also atheists but 1 news article about JWs comes out and everyone attacks us. Makes me laugh actually.:)
My simple question is, Why does the identity of this 11 year old make any difference? Im sure the media outlets verified the 11 year olds identity and followed the laws of the Victorian Legislation. Protection of this child is at the extreme from Bullying of JW's like you!
Not the 11 Year Old Child

Australia

#57 May 1, 2013
Yep, it has to be all made up (sic)! There's nothing in the media or elsewhere about this (sic).

AUSTRALIA | An 11 Year Old is Suing the Jehovah's Witnesses
http://www.vice.com/read/an-11-year-old-is-su...

AUSTRALIA | 11 Year Old in Jehovah's Witness Court Bid
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/child-in-je...

AUSTRLIA | Jehovah's Witness Elder Facing Sex Charges
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/exjehovahs-...

AUSTRALIA | Jehovah's Witnesses "a cruel cult"
http://www.theage.com.au/national/jehovahs-wi...

AUSTRALIA | Slamming the Door on Jehovah's Witnesses
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/slamming-th...

AUSTRALIA | Inquiry into the Hanling of Child Abuse by Jehovah's Witnesses
http://jwnews.org/2012/09/21/state-inquiry-in...

AUSTRALIA | Jehovah's Witnesses Stay in Line on Child Abuse
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/04/1...

AUSTRALIA |$3 Billion JW Class Action
http://jwclassaction.com/

AUSTRALIA | JW SURVIVORS
http://jwsurvivors.org/

http://jwnews.org/

Yep. Nothin' about nothing'.
UGETTHAT

Braeside, Australia

#58 May 1, 2013
I Know who the 11 year old is. He is known in the Education System as a 'School Captain, Leader and Achiever'. Known by Local Government as the 'Future Successor'. Had Numerous Nomination's for 'Citizen of the Year' for current year.( Yet To Be Announced in 2014) Been on TV, Interviewed for Radio and Printed Media. Made Front Cover of a Major Magazine. Addressed Victorian Parliament.
Yet people claim he not capable off doing this!
melbourneonline

Braeside, Australia

#59 May 1, 2013
Alexis wrote:
I am a proud Jehovahs Witness and just read this article. For all we know those claims could be false. A minor raping a child inside a congregation while an 8 year old watches? That is an obvious lie which would never happen. I wish they could do a lie detector test to that 11 year old.
This is what makes me even more suspicious: "I spoke with Steven Unthank, an ex-Witness whoís launched a crusade against the sectís policies toward children and who helped the boy (who canít be named in the press under Australian law) file the suit."
So an EX-JW out of no where helped the boy file the suit and launch a crusade.... How ironic. And to top it off the boys name can't be said.
I don't know if anyone else notices this but it's all very suspicious with lots of contradictions and loose ends. For all I know there's money involved.
I will not be apart of this conversation because I know there's people that like to hate on us.
Please keep in mind that they are minors that rape in all other religions and also atheists but 1 news article about JWs comes out and everyone attacks us. Makes me laugh actually.:)
You say that they are minors that rape in all other religions etc. Makes me laugh actually.
You are a full on sicko who laughs at the abuse of a child. Even the 10 who agreed with your comment are sick. Just shows that you agree with child abuse. Sick and perverted you are. I hope the Police rock your world.
melbourneonline

Braeside, Australia

#60 May 1, 2013
I didn't put the quotes in number 59. Sorry, I think you know what I meant.
buggeroff

Baulkham Hills, Australia

#61 May 1, 2013
Alexis wrote:
I am a proud Jehovahs Witness and just read this article. For all we know those claims could be false. A minor raping a child inside a congregation while an 8 year old watches? That is an obvious lie which would never happen. I wish they could do a lie detector test to that 11 year old.
This is what makes me even more suspicious: "I spoke with Steven Unthank, an ex-Witness whoís launched a crusade against the sectís policies toward children and who helped the boy (who canít be named in the press under Australian law) file the suit."
So an EX-JW out of no where helped the boy file the suit and launch a crusade.... How ironic. And to top it off the boys name can't be said.
I don't know if anyone else notices this but it's all very suspicious with lots of contradictions and loose ends. For all I know there's money involved.
I will not be apart of this conversation because I know there's people that like to hate on us.
Please keep in mind that they are minors that rape in all other religions and also atheists but 1 news article about JWs comes out and everyone attacks us. Makes me laugh actually.:)
Regardless, if an accusation has been made, a full investigation must be made.
Whether there are holes or flaws to this story, I wouldn't know given I haven't read the full article.
This whole thread might be based upon bs (who would have thought, on Topix!) for all I know, but your reaction to this is nothing short of alarming.

Children have been raped in all sorts of circumstances and actually, twin brothers were raped by Catholic priests in full view of each other when they were young. The priests involved were also named by other children, so, so much for your theory.
How dare you anyway, straight away demand a lie detector for a potential traumatised child instead of DEMANDING A BLOODY LIE DETECTOR FOR THE ALLEGED PERPETRATOR?! What the hell is wrong with you? Has being a fully indoctrinated JW also scrambled your sense of compassion or a basic knowledge of right vs wrong??

FYI, If this indeed true in Australia, NO, guess what sweetie, children's names are not given in an open court for protection OF THE CHILDREN.

Your JW cult is repulsive. You tear families apart if one chooses not to be a JW anymore or in fact join. Don't bother denying that because I grew up with a kid whose life and family was turned upside down by the Father's refusal to become one of you. The cult leaders demaned the Wife leave him.
You door knock on total strangers doors trying to peddle your sick version of a religion, yet keep your doors closed to uninvited outsiders, you hypocrite.
You use graphic and violent images in children's bibles of children falling into an earthquake ravaged ground as an example of what happens to 'unbelievers'-oh yes, I recall my friends "bible" and his horror of what would happen if he or those he cared about did not believe in almight Jehovah!
YOu have literally had Mothers/FAthers/loved ones die rather than have medical help. YOu have seen the courts in Australia legally advocate for a child to have a blood transfusion and have LIFE rather than the death your religion demanded.

So you and your disgusting religion can FARK OFF.
buggeroff

Baulkham Hills, Australia

#62 May 1, 2013
Alexis wrote:
I am a proud Jehovahs Witness and just read this article. For all we know those claims could be false. A minor raping a child inside a congregation while an 8 year old watches? That is an obvious lie which would never happen. I wish they could do a lie detector test to that 11 year old.
This is what makes me even more suspicious: "I spoke with Steven Unthank, an ex-Witness whoís launched a crusade against the sectís policies toward children and who helped the boy (who canít be named in the press under Australian law) file the suit."
So an EX-JW out of no where helped the boy file the suit and launch a crusade.... How ironic. And to top it off the boys name can't be said.
I don't know if anyone else notices this but it's all very suspicious with lots of contradictions and loose ends. For all I know there's money involved.
I will not be apart of this conversation because I know there's people that like to hate on us.
Please keep in mind that they are minors that rape in all other religions and also atheists but 1 news article about JWs comes out and everyone attacks us. Makes me laugh actually.:)
Careful Alex, the smurfs might be watching...
Greg Roundtree

Anonymous Proxy

#63 May 1, 2013
Alexis wrote:
I am a proud Jehovahs Witness and just read this article. For all we know those claims could be false. A minor raping a child inside a congregation while an 8 year old watches? That is an obvious lie which would never happen. I wish they could do a lie detector test to that 11 year old.
This is what makes me even more suspicious: "I spoke with Steven Unthank, an ex-Witness whoís launched a crusade against the sectís policies toward children and who helped the boy (who canít be named in the press under Australian law) file the suit."
So an EX-JW out of no where helped the boy file the suit and launch a crusade.... How ironic. And to top it off the boys name can't be said.
I don't know if anyone else notices this but it's all very suspicious with lots of contradictions and loose ends. For all I know there's money involved.
I will not be apart of this conversation because I know there's people that like to hate on us.
Please keep in mind that they are minors that rape in all other religions and also atheists but 1 news article about JWs comes out and everyone attacks us. Makes me laugh actually.:)
I agree sister. I find that story quite hard to believe. A minor who was in a congregation raping another child while a little boy was watching...hmm. I feel the original writer (Steven Unthank) could've made up a better story.

I'm a website designer myself and know how news sites work. I also did a wayback content search to find the original article:
http://www.vice.com/read/an-11-year-old-is-su...

This is a man-made news site that posts any story that sounds interesting that gets sent to them or that they make up. The more viewers the more money they make. For example, the person that posted the original article is Julian Morgans from Vice.com . Here are some other news reports he recently made just days ago:

http://www.vice.com/read/my-trip-to-the-sperm...
http://www.vice.com/read/could-my-housemates-...

This shows he can literally just make up any news report and post it up. Why post a story of someone putting a dead bird in his front porch? why post about his trip to the sperm bank and show triple x magazines and dildos? It also shows the writers immaturity making articles like the ones I posted above.

In the main article it even states "I spoke with Steven Unthank, an ex-Witness" This proves Stephen Unthank (the person that made up the story) sent him the article.

HERES ANOTHER ENTERTAINING DISCOVERY I FOUND BELOW:

I did a domain name owner search on the news links someone posted a few posts above and guess what I found? The person that made up the pertaining article "Steven Unthank" also owns the domain names:
jwnews.org , jwclassaction.com , jwsurvivors.org

Don't believe me? Go do a domain name owner search yourself.

Please people, do not believe all the stories people post on the internet. To put everything more simpler for the hard learners:

Lets say you're a catholic or atheist and I buy the following domain and post a made-up article:
catholiccultnews.org
atheistcultnews.org
christainclassactionsuits.org

Would you believe it? If you do that would be obsered. I too will no longer be apart of this discussion or read future replies. Just 5 minutes of my time and I was able to find the original culprit that made the article and the owner of all the news bashing websites. For all I know he is posting in here aswell.

Just keep this in mind:

2 Peter 3:3: "First of all you must understand this: In the last days mockers will come and, following their own desires, will ridicule us."

Mathew 10:22: "You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved."

Atleast I know im in the right track. Shame on you Steven.:)
melbourneonline

Braeside, Australia

#64 May 1, 2013
What a bunch of muppets some of you are. The article does not say a rape happened inside the Church, ie Kingdom Hall. The word Church applies to the Organisation, so a rape happened within the JW Organisation meaning the perp and victim were JW.
humorbro

Elmont, NY

#65 May 1, 2013
Greg Roundtree wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree sister. I find that story quite hard to believe. A minor who was in a congregation raping another child while a little boy was watching...hmm. I feel the original writer (Steven Unthank) could've made up a better story.
I'm a website designer myself and know how news sites work. I also did a wayback content search to find the original article:
http://www.vice.com/read/an-11-year-old-is-su...
This is a man-made news site that posts any story that sounds interesting that gets sent to them or that they make up. The more viewers the more money they make. For example, the person that posted the original article is Julian Morgans from Vice.com . Here are some other news reports he recently made just days ago:
http://www.vice.com/read/my-trip-to-the-sperm...
http://www.vice.com/read/could-my-housemates-...
This shows he can literally just make up any news report and post it up. Why post a story of someone putting a dead bird in his front porch? why post about his trip to the sperm bank and show triple x magazines and dildos? It also shows the writers immaturity making articles like the ones I posted above.
In the main article it even states "I spoke with Steven Unthank, an ex-Witness" This proves Stephen Unthank (the person that made up the story) sent him the article.
HERES ANOTHER ENTERTAINING DISCOVERY I FOUND BELOW:
I did a domain name owner search on the news links someone posted a few posts above and guess what I found? The person that made up the pertaining article "Steven Unthank" also owns the domain names:
jwnews.org , jwclassaction.com , jwsurvivors.org
Don't believe me? Go do a domain name owner search yourself.
Please people, do not believe all the stories people post on the internet. To put everything more simpler for the hard learners:
Lets say you're a catholic or atheist and I buy the following domain and post a made-up article:
catholiccultnews.org
atheistcultnews.org
christainclassactionsuits.org
Would you believe it? If you do that would be obsered. I too will no longer be apart of this discussion or read future replies. Just 5 minutes of my time and I was able to find the original culprit that made the article and the owner of all the news bashing websites. For all I know he is posting in here aswell.
Just keep this in mind:
2 Peter 3:3: "First of all you must understand this: In the last days mockers will come and, following their own desires, will ridicule us."
Mathew 10:22: "You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved."
Atleast I know im in the right track. Shame on you Steven.:)
I am personally an atheist and believed the news article at first. But after all this information you posted i can tell that news article all made up by that guy.

I also did the domain search of the websites and that Steven Unthank guy is infact the owner which i thought was quite funny. He is also from Australia and I see lots of posts here from Australia. Looks to me like a 1 man army trying to make your religion look bad. I respect people of all religions but people like Steven are creepos. He better be careful or his nose is going to break the monitor lol.

I know some articles might be true that come from valid sources like msnbc but cheap news sites are not. I bet 1 out of 100 is real lmao.
UGETTHAT

Braeside, Australia

#66 May 3, 2013
This 11 year old is ready to unleash HELL! He has signed 'statutory declaration' from Terrence O'Brien (director WTBTS Australia) which is LIES! Will be released in time. Bah ha ha
UGETTHAT

Braeside, Australia

#67 May 3, 2013
humorbro wrote:
<quoted text>
I am personally an atheist and believed the news article at first. But after all this information you posted i can tell that news article all made up by that guy.
I also did the domain search of the websites and that Steven Unthank guy is infact the owner which i thought was quite funny. He is also from Australia and I see lots of posts here from Australia. Looks to me like a 1 man army trying to make your religion look bad. I respect people of all religions but people like Steven are creepos. He better be careful or his nose is going to break the monitor lol.
I know some articles might be true that come from valid sources like msnbc but cheap news sites are not. I bet 1 out of 100 is real lmao.
Im sorry that you are so desperate that you can search for a Domain Name and the search can nullify all the REAL NEWS! This person knows that this news goes on and therefore don't listen to him!
EXPLAIN, the MAJOR NEWSPAPER, The Age, running News about JW's. How clueless are you!
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#68 May 3, 2013
UGETTHAT wrote:
<quoted text>Im sorry that you are so desperate that you can search for a Domain Name and the search can nullify all the REAL NEWS! This person knows that this news goes on and therefore don't listen to him!
EXPLAIN, the MAJOR NEWSPAPER, The Age, running News about JW's. How clueless are you!
Oh come on Jehovah's Witnesses are trained to lie at their meetings!
All of these so called "atheists" or "agnostics" who come here to defend the JW cult are actually Jehovah's Witnesses.
They fool nobody.
SaidI

Surrey Hills, Australia

#69 May 3, 2013
hMMMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
You brainwash and indoctrinate them that those who are most likely to molest them are doing it for "jehovah".
You brainwash them that all members of the Jehovah's Witness cult, especially men, are never to be questioned.
That GOOD children are like sheep and do not question and BAD children are "goats" and "jehovah" does not like them.
You teach them to fear police, teachers and non-JW friend or relatives with propaganda aimed at children, with pictures of these types of people most likely to help them, next to pictures of Satan.
This way children will be compliant, they understand never to go to those kind people who will help them, by purposely instilling fear in the children.
The Jehovah's Witnesses are a sick, perverted cult.
A perfect pedophiles paradise.
Sounds just like the Fundamental Later Day Saint's. All about child abuse, and control. Ugly stuff.
SaidI

Surrey Hills, Australia

#70 May 3, 2013
Nomi wrote:
AND how is an 11 yr old supposed to learn all this information? I still say some adult has to be involved.
<quoted text>
There are kids out there that have a great sense of right and wrong. Of course he has a trusted adult helping with this.
But if he witnessed any form of abuse or suffered it himself wouldn't you want it to be brought to court? Or would you prefer the sweep it under the rug type of approach?
Don't worry about it kneel and pray.

Since: Mar 09

United States

#71 May 4, 2013
I was molested as a child, by an old man, who most would think no longer even thought about sex. Not a JW, or religious at all. He worked for my grandparents. I didn't have to worry about a court...my grandfather threatened to kill him, and believe me he would have, had it ever happened again, after I told my grandmother it had happened.

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#72 May 4, 2013
Nomi wrote:
I was molested as a child, by an old man, who most would think no longer even thought about sex. Not a JW, or religious at all. He worked for my grandparents. I didn't have to worry about a court...my grandfather threatened to kill him, and believe me he would have, had it ever happened again, after I told my grandmother it had happened.
That is sad Nomi, you still should have reported him to the authorities.
unbelievable

Baulkham Hills, Australia

#73 May 4, 2013
hMMMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh come on Jehovah's Witnesses are trained to lie at their meetings!
All of these so called "atheists" or "agnostics" who come here to defend the JW cult are actually Jehovah's Witnesses.
They fool nobody.
Exactly. An atheist does not defend in a belief system that not only does s/he not believe in but also has utter contempt for.

JW's are fighting the losing battle with their sad public relations exercise. Most people make jokes about JW's door knocking, some simply ridculing them for it, others furious that they dare peddle there cult at somebody else's front door.

They also are looked at like selfish freaks when attempt to stop their children from receiving urgent medical care and are viewed with disgust when they would choose to leave their children motherless or fatherless rather than have a blood transfusion. Only a true brainwashed cultist would gladly sacrifice their children or themselves for their 'religion'.

SEcretive, bizarre beliefs equals cultist.

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