Permit for military-style training ca...

Permit for military-style training camp on hold - The Park Record

There are 3 comments on the Park Record story from Aug 20, 2010, titled Permit for military-style training camp on hold - The Park Record. In it, Park Record reports that:

ChamTech, a firm that has applied to open a military-style training camp in Sawmill Canyon east of Henefer and Echo, must prove it has access rights to the canyon road and local spring water before it can move forward.

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Intellius

Kamas, UT

#1 Aug 20, 2010
The most compelling complaint I heard from ALL adjacent landowners, as well as from other attendees, was concern over personal safety and the safety of their land, families, and animals. What I heard was that their right to enjoy their land would be encroached upon by this proposed operation for reasons that included being shot, increased wildfire from bullets or ATVs, and the potential for inviting individuals into the area without fully understanding their intentions. It was extremely emotional and uneasy, and unfortunately the Commissioners did not seem to assign these concerns with the same weight as they did a legal access easement, or a water right. Even if Chamtech was required to mitigate these concerns with a $10 million dollar bond to pay for a wildlife fire, it wouldn't alleviate the day-to-day anxiety of the public, and esp. the adjacent landowners. Utah law defines Nuisance as "anything which is injurious to health, indecent, offensive to the senses, or an obstruction to the free use of property, so as to interfere with the comfortable enjoyment of life or property." Obviously a para-military training camp is not illegal in its own right. However, the inappropriate LOCATION makes this paramilitary training camp a public and private nuisance (Utah Code 78B-6-1101) meaning that "in and of itself" the operation carries with it an inherent risk that produces significantly higher fear, disturbance, or anxiety for a reasonable person regarding his/her personal safety or health while on their land, as well as the health and safety of their family, guests, workers, and animals. These inherent risks make the proposed use incompatible with the surrounding land use.
T MATT

United States

#2 Sep 1, 2010
Intellius wrote:
The most compelling complaint I heard from ALL adjacent landowners, as well as from other attendees, was concern over personal safety and the safety of their land, families, and animals. What I heard was that their right to enjoy their land would be encroached upon by this proposed operation for reasons that included being shot, increased wildfire from bullets or ATVs, and the potential for inviting individuals into the area without fully understanding their intentions. It was extremely emotional and uneasy, and unfortunately the Commissioners did not seem to assign these concerns with the same weight as they did a legal access easement, or a water right. Even if Chamtech was required to mitigate these concerns with a $10 million dollar bond to pay for a wildlife fire, it wouldn't alleviate the day-to-day anxiety of the public, and esp. the adjacent landowners. Utah law defines Nuisance as "anything which is injurious to health, indecent, offensive to the senses, or an obstruction to the free use of property, so as to interfere with the comfortable enjoyment of life or property." Obviously a para-military training camp is not illegal in its own right. However, the inappropriate LOCATION makes this paramilitary training camp a public and private nuisance (Utah Code 78B-6-1101) meaning that "in and of itself" the operation carries with it an inherent risk that produces significantly higher fear, disturbance, or anxiety for a reasonable person regarding his/her personal safety or health while on their land, as well as the health and safety of their family, guests, workers, and animals. These inherent risks make the proposed use incompatible with the surrounding land use.


Apparently Mr. Intellius, you have know idea what the **&* you are talking about and it shows. I would recommend for you to reach out and speak to these individuals and hear their concerns before badgering the company and their mission. Their mission is legitimate and well needed for the reasons that they are marketing it for. Just because you choose to live a life of solitude and engorgement does not mean you have a right to freedom of speech. Usually people who choose that life style have reasons for which they are not proud of. So before you point the finger look in the mirror and define your life, has it been of a true believer of the foundation of this land or has it been of reasons of solitude. Of what ever reasons you may have. "Not Judging just asking?"

Since: Jan 10

South Jordan, UT

#3 Sep 1, 2010
"T MATT" is the most incomprehensible troll to be on this site in recent memory. "..you have KNOW idea"?? We do not have a right to freedom of speech? "engorgement"? "Reasons of solitude"? Somebody take the thesaurus away from this moron before he hurts himself. The two "executives" of this ridiculous organization are clueless wannabees. They have no credentials, no expertise, and no clients. I would call it a joke, but it's not funny.

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