Spanish Prosecutor: Drop case against Bush officials

[davisss13]

Brian wrote:

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That's just such an uneducated and insensitive statement. Maybe you would be more sensitive with such statements if some of your family had perished in those camps, but you should certainly at least read up on your historical facts. It's one thing to say that what someone does is unethical or immoral, but to say what they've done is of a lower standard than that of a regime who went door to door arresting people for owning the wrong books, saying the wrong things, or practicing the wrong religion is outrageous. So far I haven't seen any U.S. gestapo rounding up persons of any faith and placing them in ovens to bake them to death.
We're nowhere near that, and with the balances we have in place, such as free speech, there's very little possibility of going that far.
I guess some people just can't handle others being able to voice their opinions freely and openly, and when it happens the person with the opposing viewpoint becomes "worse than a nazi". If you think about it, that mindset is exactly what founded and drove Nazi Germany in the first place - round up and punish all those with a differing opinion.

Ahhh BS. I'm telling the gospel truth.

[Angel]

Texas Longhorn wrote:

So why aren't these guys being charged in the US for war crimes? There's little doubt they're guilty. Bush should be tried for treason, on many different issues, also.

You are an absolute brainless idiot!! What war crimes -- that he kept the U.S. free from the threat from murderous Muslims. Oh! I see - you don't mind having your throat cut by them. Don't you understand what the West is fighting -- we are being taken over by stealth. Take a look at all of the Western countries -- why are Muslims leaving their homelands and moving in. Not because of the weather I can assure you. It is their holy (or unholy for us infidels) duty!! Wake up!!

[Angel]

davisss13 wrote:

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Patriots voted him there.

I think you mean IDIOTS!! Time will back my words matey!!

[newanarchy]

Angel wrote:

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You are an absolute brainless idiot!! What war crimes -- that he kept the U.S. free from the threat from murderous Muslims. Oh! I see - you don't mind having your throat cut by them. Don't you understand what the West is fighting -- we are being taken over by stealth. Take a look at all of the Western countries -- why are Muslims leaving their homelands and moving in. Not because of the weather I can assure you. It is their holy (or unholy for us infidels) duty!! Wake up!!

Talk about being a brainless idiot, we are in far more danger now than when we invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, just how stupid are you?

[Waldo]

First off read the article. The prosecutors dropped the case but the judge still has yet to rule on it. We shall see if it will go forward.

Why Spain? Two reasons. Spanish law, like US law, recognizes universal jurisdiction for crimes of torure, meaning that tortureres can be prosecuted anywhere, regardless of where they committed their crime. Also some of those held at Gitmo were Spanish citizens.

Baltasar Garzon, the judge in this case also indicted former Chilean Pres. Pinochet in 1998 for, among other crimes, the torture of Chileans while he was in power. That started criminal proceedings in Chile.

The main reason I think they started this was to encourage the US to launch its own investigation and like Chile, not rely on Spain to call the shots.

Spain is not the only country conducting a criminal investigation. On March 26 Britain's attorney general, Patricia Scotland announces she was launching a criminal investigation into allegations that British officials were complicit in the torure of a British resident captured by US officials in Pakistan and rendered to Morocco before being taken to Gitmo.

[Angel]

newanarchy wrote:

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Talk about being a brainless idiot, we are in far more danger now than when we invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, just how stupid are you?

Why you are in danger now is that you have elected the Democrats again. They have proved in the past just how incompetent they are - circa Jimmy Carter, then came Clinton whose government passed and he signed the bill to allow sub-prime loans. Where do you think the current financial crisis originated. Can't you leftists ever learn? Guess not!
Of course the U.S. is in imminent danger now and it is more from within than without.

Time to wake up to facts.

[Sick of it all]

The Opened Mind Leak wrote:

You bunch of bleeding heart liberals are disgusting!
PRESIDENT BUSH is a HERO that took the war to the far East away from the USA and kept us safe you jerks!

Ha HA HA Do you actually believe that? Of course you do because Bush told you to. BAAAA BAAAA little sheep. Man I love saying that!

[davisss13]

Angel wrote:

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Why you are in danger now is that you have elected the Democrats again. They have proved in the past just how incompetent they are - circa Jimmy Carter, then came Clinton whose government passed and he signed the bill to allow sub-prime loans. Where do you think the current financial crisis originated. Can't you leftists ever learn? Guess not!
Of course the U.S. is in imminent danger now and it is more from within than without.
Time to wake up to facts.

A dingo ate your common sense.

[Angel]

davisss13 wrote:

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A dingo ate your common sense.

Typical reply of an ignoramus. You have probably never ventured out of the confines of Illinois. What I have stated are facts whether you like it or not. Enjoy your reverie - it is going to be short lived. I see the President is down being entertained by Chavez - he bows to the Muslims, shakes hands with a terrorist Dictator - what next? I presume you are happy to see the U.S. taking back seat to these malcontents!!!!

[davisss13]

Take your Islamophobia, pack up the family and hide out in the Great Sandy.

[FTR]

Sick of it all wrote:

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BAAAA BAAAA little sheep. Man I love saying that!

I'm willing to bet you say that a lot while your holding up their tail and your pants around your ankles...LMAO!!!

[Chelle7822]

Brian wrote:

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Do you have an actual reference, or are you just repeating something you heard someone say they heard someone say on the radio about what someone else said?

Only Bush said it. Others repeated. Enjoy.

Bush on the Constitution:'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'

By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 10, 2005, 06:02

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish...

[koz]

Brian wrote:

Do you have an actual reference, or are you just repeating something you heard someone say they heard someone say on the radio about what someone else said?

The only decent reference states that the story is a lie.

[2003emm3]

The Opened Mind Leak wrote:

You bunch of bleeding heart liberals are disgusting!
PRESIDENT BUSH is a HERO that took the war to the far East away from the USA and kept us safe you jerks!

Jeez, what a bonehead. If you are going to defend Bush, at least check in which part of the world he started his wars. Far East?

[American Expat]

I have lived in Spain for over 20 years now. The poster that indicated Spain should clean up its own back yard first is RIGHT ON TARGET! Garzon is nothing more than a political hack that does the bidding of Zapatero and spends most of his time trying to drum up cases of corruption agaist the opposition party. When an ETA criminal that murdered 22 people is released from jail after serving only 18 years in prison, there is something wrong with the system. Then, if you shoot and injure or kill an intruder into your home, YOU are the one that is prosecuted, not the intruder. Criminals are given sentences over 100 years in prison, while the law states that law breakers can be incarcerated no longer than 30 years. Typically, they serve around 10-15 years AT MOST, including murderers. The system needs to be overhauled from top to bottom. And, by the way, Bush SHOULD be prosecuted, but under the American system or in the Hague, not Mr. Garzon's pseudo system.