Casino suffers in sour economy

Casino suffers in sour economy

There are 101 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Nov 2, 2008, titled Casino suffers in sour economy. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

Jon Ostendorff * JOstendorff@CITIZEN-TIMES.com * published November 3, 2008 12:15 am Comments on Topix forums : CHEROKEE Brenda Wentz recently made the 2 1/2-hour drive from her home in Lincolnton to try her ...

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The Right Rev Jackson

Great Falls, MT

#1 Nov 3, 2008
I told you sending Bobby to jail was a bad idea.

“Don't blame me. I voted.”

Since: Feb 08

Sylva, NC

#2 Nov 3, 2008
The Right Rev Jackson wrote:
I told you sending Bobby to jail was a bad idea.
Your joke (?) is not obvious. Gambling is legal on the Cherokee Reservation, which is Federal land, and over which Mr. Medford or any other local sheriff, has no jurisdiction. The Casino is one of the best things to happen to Cherokee. It provides money to the tribal members as well as jobs, both of which were severely needed. The standard of living for tribal members has increased significantly since the casino began operations. Additionally, the casino donates thousands of dollars each year to improve the town of Cherokee and its surrounding area. Before you trolls start complaining about the "sin" of gambling, just remember that people who want to gamble are going to gamble. And those who want to gamble will go wherever they need to go to do so. It might as well be Cherokee, where the money they spend can go towards helping a tribe who for so many years lived in poverty. Although I personally do not gamble, I am very pleased that the Eastern Band of Cherokee were able to attract such a profitable business to their Reservation.
rickm

Maxton, NC

#3 Nov 3, 2008
I agree with SW. I have some friends who live on there. It's been a mixed blessing for them. They've gotten some much needed infrastructure upgrades, which has helped the quality of life there. On the downside it's caused some issues, folks aren't always sure of what to do with their new found money.

It would be cool if they did it like Atlantic City. Hugely cheap meals and moderately priced hotels.
Sweetpea

Great Falls, MT

#5 Nov 3, 2008
I use to love to go to Harrahs Cherokee for fun. The older generation 65 and over seem to love to go in groups and sit there five or six hours and bet low wagers. The younger crowd and the ones that bet larger seem to come at night and on week-ends.
I have stopped going not because of gas prices or the economy but because Harrahs has the lowest and now even lower payout of any casino that I have ever been too. Most casinos even have signs over the machines telling what the payout percentage is. I believe Cherokee is afraid they will put the gamblers in shock if they release the percentage.
I can look at my records from 2002 until June 2008 and know what I spent and what I won. Spent close to the same amounts, played the same machines and the amount won is much lower. Either my LUCK has really changed or Harrahs has cut back even more on their payouts. Thank you and have a good day. VOTE

“Report and Deport1866-DHS-2 ICE”

Since: Feb 07

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#6 Nov 3, 2008
Silverwolf 104 wrote:
<quoted text>
Your joke (?) is not obvious. Gambling is legal on the Cherokee Reservation, which is Federal land, and over which Mr. Medford or any other local sheriff, has no jurisdiction. The Casino is one of the best things to happen to Cherokee. It provides money to the tribal members as well as jobs, both of which were severely needed. The standard of living for tribal members has increased significantly since the casino began operations. Additionally, the casino donates thousands of dollars each year to improve the town of Cherokee and its surrounding area. Before you trolls start complaining about the "sin" of gambling, just remember that people who want to gamble are going to gamble. And those who want to gamble will go wherever they need to go to do so. It might as well be Cherokee, where the money they spend can go towards helping a tribe who for so many years lived in poverty. Although I personally do not gamble, I am very pleased that the Eastern Band of Cherokee were able to attract such a profitable business to their Reservation.
I believe they were talking about Bobby spending his ill gotten gains at the casino.

Since: Feb 07

Cullowhee

#9 Nov 3, 2008
Jimmy wrote:
<quoted text>
The casino has caused many people in Haywood County to lose their homes and families.
I'm sorry "the casino" can't force people to come in and spend their money. If folks lost their homes and families it is their fault not the casinos. I know people who gamble but only with disposable income, not rent, food or gas money. Just like any addiction, if the casino closed its doors tomorrow the addicts would find somewhere else to gamble their money away.
Chimps

Weaverville, NC

#10 Nov 3, 2008
Here comes the booze................
born here

Boiling Springs, SC

#11 Nov 3, 2008
I hope it goes belly-up. that will get rid of these iritating tourist. I don`t care about the money they bring. our moutains are being stripped and our heritage is being destroyed. the landscape is getting as ugly as their attitudes.

dcm

Since: Dec 07

Asheville, NC

#12 Nov 3, 2008
Not to be a stickler, but it's western North Carolina. "Western" is not capitalized. I see it everyday in this newspaper.

“Finally a proud american!”

Since: Oct 07

Charles City Iowa

#14 Nov 3, 2008
I find it funny that people who can least afford to lose their hard earned (?) money go to casinos and play the lottery ... taxing the poor!
RVT1

Glen Ellyn, IL

#15 Nov 3, 2008
What casino are they talking about? There's no casino in Cherokee. There's a big video game room there, but there's no casino. Perhaps if the state of NC would allow casino games to be played ( both physical cards and physical chips ) without asking for a huge kickback, then there could be a real casino in Cherokee.
LuLu

Spartanburg, SC

#16 Nov 3, 2008
Sweetpea wrote:
I use to love to go to Harrahs Cherokee for fun. The older generation 65 and over seem to love to go in groups and sit there five or six hours and bet low wagers. The younger crowd and the ones that bet larger seem to come at night and on week-ends.
I have stopped going not because of gas prices or the economy but because Harrahs has the lowest and now even lower payout of any casino that I have ever been too. Most casinos even have signs over the machines telling what the payout percentage is. I believe Cherokee is afraid they will put the gamblers in shock if they release the percentage.
I can look at my records from 2002 until June 2008 and know what I spent and what I won. Spent close to the same amounts, played the same machines and the amount won is much lower. Either my LUCK has really changed or Harrahs has cut back even more on their payouts. Thank you and have a good day. VOTE
My friends and I go to the casino for entertainment. We know when we get in the car for the drive it's for fun. We have a set amount we are going to spend in disposable income. We realize that we are not going to come back millionaires (but always hoping).

I recently went to Mississippi to the casino and was shocked when I met people from NC and Tenn. I started talking to one individual, they laughed introduced me to another individual, and before long 10 people from NC and Tenn. was eating dinner together.

People are going to gamble, right or wrong.

Daisy

Wilkesboro, NC

#17 Nov 3, 2008
MsLyn wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry "the casino" can't force people to come in and spend their money. If folks lost their homes and families it is their fault not the casinos. I know people who gamble but only with disposable income, not rent, food or gas money. Just like any addiction, if the casino closed its doors tomorrow the addicts would find somewhere else to gamble their money away.
You're wrong it is the Casino's fault that people have lost their homes. I know a lot of these people and they never gambled in their life. Harrah's made it look like you could win big money and these people fell for it. Most of these people had never seen anything like the casino and fell into the trap. If the casino wasn't there they wouldn't have gambled. The beautiful Cherokee is being destroyed. Harrahs has a license to steal.
yona

Asheville, NC

#18 Nov 3, 2008
Douglas Ewen wrote:
I find it funny that people who can least afford to lose their hard earned (?) money go to casinos and play the lottery ... taxing the poor!
You never know when do keep quiet and stop reminding us how illequiped you are.

Lottery is a state gaming system that is supposed to fund education and usually gets diverted in such a way as Democrat legislators keep claiming we have to raise taxes to educate our children. If they just left the education money alone there wouldn't be a problem but they can't justify a tax increase for some pork barrel BS project to buy votes. Lottery targets the most suseptable (low income) amoung us and that is sad.

Harrah's Cherokee casino is a different animal all together and most individuals that go there do have the money to risk and know the odds. It is entertainment and billed as such, easily seem by all but the closed minded intolerant holier than thous that feel if they don't like it no one should have it.

I suggest, after you put down the joint and allow your head to clear, a week at least, go out and buy a lottery ticket. Wait for the numbers to be drawn and see how you feel. Then decide what you can afford to risk, you hardly work so lets say $20, and go out to Cherokee and after walking the impressive floor, maybe eating in one of the half dozen restaurants, seeing a show if one is playing. Then you sit down at a table or machine of your choice and at you discretion you put in the minimum or any variation to maximum bid to play. Play for as long as your money lasts. You'll be surprised most people win one for one often so play can last a long time on realisticly played funds.

Now go home and post on here how you felt, knowing the truth first hand at that point. I bet you'll feel the lottery is a rip off designed to seperate ignorant people from their money. The casino is a business (for proffit) but provided good service and an enjoyable atmosphere with reasonable entertainment for your dollars per hour.

I fell off the wagon and spiked the weight but I am back to health food again. Was the rooftop offer real or were you being snarky? I would have wife and daughter, is it going to be appropriate? We hadn't really planned to even go down and attend but if a friend I usually get great pleasure out of disagreeing with is extending an offer, we might change our plans.

Since: Feb 07

Cullowhee

#19 Nov 3, 2008
Daisy wrote:
<quoted text> You're wrong it is the Casino's fault that people have lost their homes. I know a lot of these people and they never gambled in their life. Harrah's made it look like you could win big money and these people fell for it. Most of these people had never seen anything like the casino and fell into the trap. If the casino wasn't there they wouldn't have gambled. The beautiful Cherokee is being destroyed. Harrahs has a license to steal.
Again, how is that Harrah's fault. Because they promoted their business? I have yet to see an ad that offers something for nothing. If the casino wasn't there, the reservation would still be in poverty and no one would care.
Sweetpea

Great Falls, MT

#20 Nov 3, 2008
dcm: r u an english teacher!
juggalo 4 life

Columbia, MO

#21 Nov 3, 2008
you knpw its not the casino fault for people to lose their homes its the people wasting thier money in their
Jake

Asheville, NC

#22 Nov 3, 2008
Douglas Ewen wrote:
I find it funny that people who can least afford to lose their hard earned (?) money go to casinos and play the lottery ... taxing the poor!
That is so true. Harrahs Cherokee is a taxing seductress for the poor and ill-informed, disguised in neon and glitz.

Very few people ever walk out of there with fatter wallets, despite the devious advertising.
Ronald Frobnitz

Maxton, NC

#23 Nov 3, 2008
This is so sad. As Harrah's goes, so goes America.

“Don't blame me. I voted.”

Since: Feb 08

Sylva, NC

#24 Nov 3, 2008
MsLyn wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry "the casino" can't force people to come in and spend their money. If folks lost their homes and families it is their fault not the casinos. I know people who gamble but only with disposable income, not rent, food or gas money. Just like any addiction, if the casino closed its doors tomorrow the addicts would find somewhere else to gamble their money away.
As I stated in my previous post, people who want to gamble will find somewhere to do so. Gambling is an addiction, like drugs, alcohol, etc. Don't blame the casino in Cherokee. Blame the gambling addicts who don't know any better. The ads for the Cherokee Casino promise no one anything except perhaps some fun. They do not guarantee any winnings...or losings. So get over that idea that the casino has caused anyone to lose anything. It has not. They hold no gun to anyone's head to make them come in and feed money to those machines.

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