Investigator holding out hope for JonBenet arrest

Jul 19, 2012 Full story: KATV Little Rock 51

A former district attorney lead investigator on the JonBenet Ramsey murder case says he's still hoping the case will be solved.

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#22 Oct 8, 2012
The only jig is the two stepping way the Ramsey parents avoided helping police investigate the death of their own 6 year old.

The kids leaving shite in their clothes and bedding is earth shattering information about how utterly dysfunction and emotionally unbalanced the family was before Jonbenet bought the farm.
Steve Eller

United States

#23 Oct 8, 2012
Let me be among those declaring that the JIG IS UP! Regarding the Ramseys, we''d have to look at the Citigroup merger to find a faster pursuit of high priced politically connected legal representation. Tobacco companies have spent less money on PR Firms than the Ramseys. All of their defenders can focus on parsing insignificant semantics and screaming that it can't be proven in a court of law. We will never know because half the prosecutors in the DA's Office aspired to work for the firms defending the Ramseys and made sure that the Ramseys would not be brought in for questioning let alone indicted or prosecuted. Out of dozens of investigators working on this case, only ONE emerged proclaiming the innocence of the Ramseys and his theory of the case has been THOROUGHLY discredited. Move on to something else--there was no intruder(s) and please come to grips that it wasn't Fleet White, or Santa or the Easter Bunny either.
WV Sleuth

Washington, DC

#24 Oct 8, 2012
Terrance wrote:
You got to be stupid. It was a take out by a local faction.

-- Nope. Patsy wrote in the ransom letter that they were a FOREIGN faction. Now, go gesticulate before her crypt, creep.

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#25 Oct 9, 2012
Terrance wrote:
A minor toileting issue does not a murderer make.
You're making a molehill out of a mountain. The encopresis of the Ramsey children is as catastrophic and telling as if the Titanic sailed with missing rivits in the hull.

Jonbenet wasn't murdered. Burke bashed in her head in an incident where he lost control of his emotions and behavior, much like the encopresis. Patsy and John covered the 'accident' up - staged the rest. That was Patsy's speciality, advertising and promotion - selling - twisting the truth, getting suckers to buy crap. She had a degree in Advertising from the School of Journalism. The RN was her thesis.

The Ramseys were involved covering up Jonbenet's death and so was Alex Hunter with his side kick the dishonorable Lou Smit.

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#26 Oct 9, 2012
To be frank, the jig was up once the handwriting was compared to Patsy's handwriting IMO

All it takes is some time to really really really examine the note and realize that Patsy wrote that note.

Who would she do that for? IMO, NOT anyone but Burke

Since: May 11

Seattle, WA

#27 Oct 9, 2012
Capricorn wrote:
To be frank, the jig was up once the handwriting was compared to Patsy's handwriting IMO
All it takes is some time to really really really examine the note and realize that Patsy wrote that note.
Who would she do that for? IMO, NOT anyone but Burke
I think JR would argue HE THOUGHT the jig was up when he brought JB upstairs and called his pilot. In the real world, it would have been.
Henri McPhee

Harrow, UK

#28 Oct 10, 2012
Capricorn wrote:
To be frank, the jig was up once the handwriting was compared to Patsy's handwriting IMO
All it takes is some time to really really really examine the note and realize that Patsy wrote that note.
Who would she do that for? IMO, NOT anyone but Burke
Why don't you listen to the experts who examined the originals?

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#29 Oct 10, 2012
It appears the handwriting experts were left in the dark about Burke's encopresis. Knowning all the facts and history, especially the psychology and emotional problems of the Ramsey family is key to understanding what really happened to Jonbenet. It would be a good idea to have all the information laid out to them again including Patsy's history of ambidexterity but unless there is a trial it's likely not going to happen.

“WAX ON”

Since: Jul 10

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#30 Oct 10, 2012
I totally agree.

I also believe they thought the GJ would indict because of the extensive plans they made arranging for businesses, kids, etc.

I really believe no one was more surprised than they were at that time.
realTopaz wrote:
<quoted text>
I think JR would argue HE THOUGHT the jig was up when he brought JB upstairs and called his pilot. In the real world, it would have been.

“WAX ON”

Since: Jul 10

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#31 Oct 10, 2012
Why don't you listen to the ones that said Patsy wrote the note?
Henri McPhee wrote:
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Why don't you listen to the experts who examined the originals?

Since: May 11

Seattle, WA

#35 Oct 10, 2012
DrSeussMd wrote:
I totally agree.
I also believe they thought the GJ would indict because of the extensive plans they made arranging for businesses, kids, etc.
I really believe no one was more surprised than they were at that time.
<quoted text>
Excellent point, Doc! Yes, while the GJ went on they made serious preparations for their money and Burke. Oh, and from their own mouths, said they both got on their knees in front of the tv and PRAYED the day the GJ decision was made public. Innocent people don't need to pray, nor do they stall police so that a GJ needs to be called in the first place!
Steve Eller

United States

#37 Oct 10, 2012
realTopaz wrote:
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Excellent point, Doc! Yes, while the GJ went on they made serious preparations for their money and Burke. Oh, and from their own mouths, said they both got on their knees in front of the tv and PRAYED the day the GJ decision was made public. Innocent people don't need to pray, nor do they stall police so that a GJ needs to be called in the first place!
I have a hard time believing that they ever expected to be indicted by the Grand Jury. The fix was in very early on in this case.

“If life gives you melons”

Since: Nov 06

You might be dyslexic

#38 Oct 10, 2012
Steve Eller wrote:
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I have a hard time believing that they ever expected to be indicted by the Grand Jury. The fix was in very early on in this case.
To hear THEM tell it they did, LOL. It is in the book they wrote, which is basically more propaganda, but still, they felt the need to put it in there.
Steve Eller

United States

#39 Oct 10, 2012
Legal__Eagle wrote:
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To hear THEM tell it they did, LOL. It is in the book they wrote, which is basically more propaganda, but still, they felt the need to put it in there.
The Ramseys were capable of convincing many people of many different things either through outright lies or other forms of deception and coercion. Ole Hunter was probably on the phone with their Lawyers immediately before and after he got confirmation. There was about as much as the Ramseys being indicted as there was of capturing the six acrobatic midget ninja intruders who invaded the Ramseys home on the night of the murder.

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#40 Oct 10, 2012
Steve Eller wrote:
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I have a hard time believing that they ever expected to be indicted by the Grand Jury. The fix was in very early on in this case.
I agree with this.

The only word we have that the "prepared" for an indictment was theirs.

I do believe they put on a "praying before the TV" performance for their good friends the Archuletas, especially Mrs. Archuleta. Poor dear. She lost her husband and some of her sanity, from her interview a couple of years ago, because of the Ramseys. She said she truly believed in their innocence. Though her offer of the information that Patsy and John argued about JB being in the pageants, and that Patsy was worried about JB "flirting" inappropriately...leads me to wonder about that.

But I don't believe anything the Ramseys ever said about any of this, especially in their book of lies, DOI.

Every time I watched Hunter speaking at a press conference for this case in the first year, he always had a "deer in the headlights" look; and never more than the day he gave the "we will find you" speech. Something told me then he was lying, though of course I didn't know how he cold know there would never be an arrest.

I may wonder if Hunter ever had a come-to-Jesus moment when he realized he'd been played by pro's, but I will always believe he was on board before 911 was ever called. Once he'd signed up for obstructing the investigation, even if he thought he was doing the right thing because Burke was the perpetrator and no charges would be filed anyway, he no doubt figured, who was going to call him out in Boulder or Colorado anyway?

Then it all blew up in their faces when a little dead girl went prancing across our TV screens.
Steve Eller

United States

#41 Oct 10, 2012
koldkase wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with this.
The only word we have that the "prepared" for an indictment was theirs.
I do believe they put on a "praying before the TV" performance for their good friends the Archuletas, especially Mrs. Archuleta. Poor dear. She lost her husband and some of her sanity, from her interview a couple of years ago, because of the Ramseys. She said she truly believed in their innocence. Though her offer of the information that Patsy and John argued about JB being in the pageants, and that Patsy was worried about JB "flirting" inappropriately...leads me to wonder about that.
But I don't believe anything the Ramseys ever said about any of this, especially in their book of lies, DOI.
Every time I watched Hunter speaking at a press conference for this case in the first year, he always had a "deer in the headlights" look; and never more than the day he gave the "we will find you" speech. Something told me then he was lying, though of course I didn't know how he cold know there would never be an arrest.
I may wonder if Hunter ever had a come-to-Jesus moment when he realized he'd been played by pro's, but I will always believe he was on board before 911 was ever called. Once he'd signed up for obstructing the investigation, even if he thought he was doing the right thing because Burke was the perpetrator and no charges would be filed anyway, he no doubt figured, who was going to call him out in Boulder or Colorado anyway?
Then it all blew up in their faces when a little dead girl went prancing across our TV screens.
Great Post!

“May you all come home”

Since: Mar 07

safely Bless you all

#42 Oct 11, 2012
Hi Steve,

I posted this many times over the years and I hope you have a good sense of humor. If you do, you will really appreciate this clip of a Mad TV show from years back, with "John and Patsy Ramsey" on Hollywood Squares.

It is very funny if you have a sense of humor and also gives you an idea of what the general public feels.

RT, if you are reading, you will enjoy this too and KK, if you are reading, I know you saw this, but it's worth a revisit

http:// w w w . youtube.com/watch...

I separated the link so it would come up on topix, so you'll have to put it together again

If it doesn't work for some reason, just go to youtube and put Hollywood Squares + John and Patsy Ramsey in and it will come up
WV Sleuth

Washington, DC

#44 Oct 11, 2012
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Since: Jul 10

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#47 Oct 11, 2012
The deabte is over. Wake up and smell the feces.

The Ramseys got far less then they desereved for creating this monster and purposely hurting other people by accusing them in Jonbenet's death.
Steve Eller

United States

#48 Oct 11, 2012
I watched the Hollywood Squares clip. Except for the part with the rope I found it hilariously funny!

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