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Greek crisis: An odyssey seen through ancient myth

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Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#1 Jun 24, 2012
EU opens schools to teach WORKING to the Greek Nation after realizing the facts just after 180 years from Greek independency in the Test-tubes of Brits..

Because;

Starving Greeks queue for food in their thousands as debt-wracked country finally forms a coalition government...

but how long will it last?

When will they work for the life instead of begging or stealing?

Queues form as desperate people received food handouts from Crete's farmers Antonis Samaras sworn in as prime minister as head of conservative-led three party coalition

New coalition vows to renegotiate crippling bailout agreement to ease burden on debt-crippled country
Greek stocks rose marginally in response to the coalition deal

Greece had been effectively ungoverned after two election in six weeks resulted in political stalemate
Country struggling through a fifth year of recession, with unemployment spiraling to above 22 per cent
Leader of Democratic Left says coalition will 'lift those measures that have literally bled society'

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21616 ...
host

Athens, Greece

#3 Jul 2, 2012
The time will never come when the words of Gladstone, one of the wisest of English statesmen, will be considered unworthy of serious attention. The following characterization of the Turk by him has been more aptly verified by the events that have happened since his death than by those that occurred before:
Let me endeavor, very briefly to sketch, in the rudest outline what the Turkish race was and what it is. It is not a question of Mohammedanism simply, but of Mohammedanism compounded with the peculiar character of a race. They are not the mild Mohammedans of India, nor the chivalrous Saladins of Syria, nor the cultured Moors of Spain. They were, upon the whole, from the black day when they first entered Europe, the one great anti-human specimen of humanity. Wherever they went a broad line of blood marked the track behind them, and, as far as their dominion reached, civilization disappeared from view. They represented everywhere government by force as opposed to government by law.—Yet a government by force can not be maintained without the aid of an intellectual element.— Hence there grew up, what has been rare in the history of the world, a kind of tolerance in the midst of cruelty, tyranny and rapine. Much of Christian life was contemptuously left alone and a race of Greeks was attracted to Constantinople which has all along made up, in some degree, the deficiencies of Turkish Islam in the element of mind!

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#4 Jul 2, 2012
host wrote:
The time will never come when the words of Gladstone, one of the wisest of English statesmen, will be considered unworthy of serious attention. The following characterization of the Turk by him has been more aptly verified by the events that have happened since his death than by those that occurred before:
Let me endeavor, very briefly to sketch, in the rudest outline what the Turkish race was and what it is. It is not a question of Mohammedanism simply, but of Mohammedanism compounded with the peculiar character of a race. They are not the mild Mohammedans of India, nor the chivalrous Saladins of Syria, nor the cultured Moors of Spain. They were, upon the whole, from the black day when they first entered Europe, the one great anti-human specimen of humanity. Wherever they went a broad line of blood marked the track behind them, and, as far as their dominion reached, civilization disappeared from view. They represented everywhere government by force as opposed to government by law.—Yet a government by force can not be maintained without the aid of an intellectual element.— Hence there grew up, what has been rare in the history of the world, a kind of tolerance in the midst of cruelty, tyranny and rapine. Much of Christian life was contemptuously left alone and a race of Greeks was attracted to Constantinople which has all along made up, in some degree, the deficiencies of Turkish Islam in the element of mind!
Gladstone and Newman were the members of the LOSERS CLUB like all other anti-turkist morons.
.
They always lost with their Thieves(Greeks)but Turks are SUPERPOWER again..

Just after only 89years from their last Ottoman Turks empire.

heheheheeh

When you write GREEKs on a piece of paper,the rest of the world reads it""THIEVES" " heheheheeh
Nick the Greek

Gateshead, UK

#5 Jul 2, 2012
Abdul-Monkey!

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#6 Jul 2, 2012
Nick the Greek wrote:
Abdul-Monkey!
When you write GREEK
EU reads it """THIEF" "" heheheheh
how inferior to be a greek...it is inferior than Gypsy it is inferior than rat:))) but you are a rat thief you do not mind it and keep begging from EU,do you?
Nick the Greek

Gateshead, UK

#7 Jul 2, 2012
Thick Illiterate Animal...Monkey!

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#8 Jul 3, 2012
Nick the Greek wrote:
Thick Illiterate Animal...Monkey!
With 115.000 Companies and 70.000 individual invesments Turks in Germany generates 2times more value added tax than whole Greece..
Greeks are thieves...

“Makedonia is in Greece ”

Since: Jan 12

Macedonia is in Greece

#9 Aug 26, 2012
OguzTolga wrote:
<quoted text>
With 115.000 Companies and 70.000 individual invesments Turks in Germany generates 2times more value added tax than whole Greece..
Greeks are thieves...
OOOps OGUZ TOLGA the FYROMONKEY forgot to switch accounts

Busted ...

why do they call you Macedonian if your Turk OGUZ ??

Busted !!

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TI...

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TI...

Busted ...

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#10 Aug 27, 2012
Greece's Future;

3 months in Eurozone
3 years in EU
4 years as a one-piece state
5 years civilwar
6 years back to Albanian IDs...

Just like Nikos Dimou says;

""""" We used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans, but then Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told us,

‘No, you are Hellenes, direct descendants of Platon and Socrat,’ and that did it."""" """"

If a small, poor nation has such a burden put on its shoulders, it will never recover.

”(NICOS DIMOU, writer)
http://greekodysse y.typepad.com/my_greek_odys ...

Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told in 18002

But;

Angela Merkel,Nicolas Sarkozy,Tayyip Erdogan and Oguztolga the leaders of the wiseguys say;

""No Greeks and Greece have been fabricated in 1800s and end 2012""""

EU opens schools to teach WORKING to the Greek Nation after realizing the facts just after 180 years from Greek independency in the Test-tubes of Brits..

Because;

Starving Greeks queue for food in their thousands as debt-wracked country finally forms a coalition government...

but how long will it last?

When will they work for the life instead of begging or stealing?

Queues form as desperate people received food handouts from Crete's farmers Antonis Samaras sworn in as prime minister as head of conservative-led three party coalition.

New coalition vows to renegotiate crippling bailout agreement to ease burden on debt-crippled country
Greek stocks rose marginally in response to the coalition deal.

Greece had been effectively ungoverned after two election in six weeks resulted in political stalemate.

Country struggling through a fifth year of recession, with unemployment spiraling to above 22 per cent.

Leader of Democratic Left says coalition will 'lift those measures that have literally bled society'

“Oguz Tolgas sister ”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#11 Aug 27, 2012
Hay broda Oguz how is the painting going ?

http://www.facebook.com/tolgaandsonsart.tolga

I think you smell too much paint brother , you are loosing your mind .

get off the computer you are getting too fat ,
like a Fred Flintstone
OguzTolga wrote:
Greece's Future;
3 months in Eurozone
3 years in EU
4 years as a one-piece state
5 years civilwar
6 years back to Albanian IDs...
Just like Nikos Dimou says;
""""" We used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans, but then Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told us,
‘No, you are Hellenes, direct descendants of Platon and Socrat,’ and that did it."""" """"
If a small, poor nation has such a burden put on its shoulders, it will never recover.
”(NICOS DIMOU, writer)
http://greekodysse y.typepad.com/my_greek_odys ...
Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told in 18002
But;
Angela Merkel,Nicolas Sarkozy,Tayyip Erdogan and Oguztolga the leaders of the wiseguys say;
""No Greeks and Greece have been fabricated in 1800s and end 2012""""
EU opens schools to teach WORKING to the Greek Nation after realizing the facts just after 180 years from Greek independency in the Test-tubes of Brits..
Because;
Starving Greeks queue for food in their thousands as debt-wracked country finally forms a coalition government...
but how long will it last?
When will they work for the life instead of begging or stealing?
Queues form as desperate people received food handouts from Crete's farmers Antonis Samaras sworn in as prime minister as head of conservative-led three party coalition.
New coalition vows to renegotiate crippling bailout agreement to ease burden on debt-crippled country
Greek stocks rose marginally in response to the coalition deal.
Greece had been effectively ungoverned after two election in six weeks resulted in political stalemate.
Country struggling through a fifth year of recession, with unemployment spiraling to above 22 per cent.
Leader of Democratic Left says coalition will 'lift those measures that have literally bled society'
Oguz father

Greece

#12 Aug 28, 2012
Oguz listen to your sister.
By the way she looks fine.

“Philbert Is Handsome”

Since: May 12

Woodland Hills, California

#14 Aug 31, 2012
OguzaTolgaska wrote:
Hay broda Oguz how is the painting going ?
http://www.facebook.com/tolgaandsonsart.tolga
I think you smell too much paint brother , you are loosing your mind .<quoted text>
So Oguz has been sniffing paint. Aurora and I thought he was getting high on illegal drugs. Brain cell destruction from paint sniffing explains his crazy, rambling off topic comments. It also explains his obvious mental deterioration.

The good news is, when he loses enough brain cells, he'll stop posting. It looks like he's close ;>)))

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#15 Sep 1, 2012
Kassandra Fotiadis

High school junior in New Jersey
FROM KASSANDRA FOTIADIS

This summer, I received a scholarship from the U.S. government to study in Turkey for seven weeks.

My parents reacted with nothing but whoops of excitement and proud smiles as they told their friends; everyone else, however, was impressed, but immediately concerned for my safety.

According to them, I had three things working against me: I was American, I was Christian, and I was Greek.

Going to Turkey would be dangerous, they thought. I could see the visions of the film Midnight Express and the memory of 9/11 running through their brains as I told them that I would be living in a country that was 99.9 percent Muslim.

I took my cross off from around my neck at JFK airport and packed floor-length skirts and shawls, ready, but somewhat nervous, to embark on my adventure.

I went to Bursa, the city I was to reside in, with 14 other American students, none of whom had any knowledge of Turkish, which was the language we aimed to learn over the summer.

Our first few days in Bursa, I noticed the stares I got on the metro, even in the knee-length shorts that I had bought especially for the trip and with my blonde hair tied back in a braid.

I stood out everywhere I went.

My host family, however, accepted me immediately; On the first day I met him, my host dad put my cell number into his phone under "My dear daughter.

" My host mom asked, in admiration, about the Christian prayer bracelets I wore around my wrist and proudly told her acquaintances that my family is from Greece.

I learned that my host father's ancestors were also born in Greece, debunking the myths that all Turks hate Greeks and vice versa.

My host family gave me a map of their neighborhood, and even circled a church, offering to bring me on Sundays if I wanted to pray.

I came to learn that Turks are some of the most hospitable and loving people in this world.

When Ramadan began about three weeks into my trip, my host family was surprised and delighted to learn that I planned to attempt fasting.

They taught me the history of the important holiday.

I had by this point already become accustomed to the call to prayer that resonated throughout the city five times a day, sometimes even waking me up in the middle of the night.

Though I only lasted for one day of the fast, they bragged to all of their friends, telling them how I rose at 3 a.m. for the morning meal and patiently waited until Ifthar to break the fast with three dates, something they didn't even have to teach me.

Every day, I discovered something new about the Islamic religion.

The rest of the letter is here;
READ;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kassandra-fotia...

“Philbert Is Handsome”

Since: May 12

Woodland Hills, California

#16 Sep 1, 2012
OguzTolga wrote:
Kassandra Fotiadis
High school junior in New Jersey
FROM KASSANDRA FOTIADIS
This summer, I received a scholarship from the U.S. government to study in Turkey for seven weeks.
My parents reacted with nothing but whoops of excitement and proud smiles as they told their friends; everyone else, however, was impressed, but immediately concerned for my safety.
According to them, I had three things working against me: I was American, I was Christian, and I was Greek.
Going to Turkey would be dangerous, they thought. I could see the visions of the film Midnight Express and the memory of 9/11 running through their brains as I told them that I would be living in a country that was 99.9 percent Muslim.
I took my cross off from around my neck at JFK airport and packed floor-length skirts and shawls, ready, but somewhat nervous, to embark on my adventure.
I went to Bursa, the city I was to reside in, with 14 other American students, none of whom had any knowledge of Turkish, which was the language we aimed to learn over the summer.
Our first few days in Bursa, I noticed the stares I got on the metro, even in the knee-length shorts that I had bought especially for the trip and with my blonde hair tied back in a braid.
I stood out everywhere I went.
My host family, however, accepted me immediately; On the first day I met him, my host dad put my cell number into his phone under "My dear daughter.
" My host mom asked, in admiration, about the Christian prayer bracelets I wore around my wrist and proudly told her acquaintances that my family is from Greece.
I learned that my host father's ancestors were also born in Greece, debunking the myths that all Turks hate Greeks and vice versa.
My host family gave me a map of their neighborhood, and even circled a church, offering to bring me on Sundays if I wanted to pray.
I came to learn that Turks are some of the most hospitable and loving people in this world.
When Ramadan began about three weeks into my trip, my host family was surprised and delighted to learn that I planned to attempt fasting.
They taught me the history of the important holiday.
I had by this point already become accustomed to the call to prayer that resonated throughout the city five times a day, sometimes even waking me up in the middle of the night.
Though I only lasted for one day of the fast, they bragged to all of their friends, telling them how I rose at 3 a.m. for the morning meal and patiently waited until Ifthar to break the fast with three dates, something they didn't even have to teach me.
Every day, I discovered something new about the Islamic religion.
The rest of the letter is here;
READ;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kassandra-fotia...
This is exactly what I expect from Turkish people and sounds totally real to me. It mirrors what I told a woman neighbor to expect when she went to Turkey on vacation two weeks ago. She said she was spending the first day by herself in Istanbul and I told her to expect Turks to be extremely courteous.

Having said that, this is not what I read in your posts. Whoever you are, and wherever you are from, you're not like the Turkish people I have known. When I read your comments I'm embarrassed for them and for Turkey.

I don't know why most Turks are so courteous, while you post trash that alienates people and reminds them of past unpleasant encounters. You glorify parts of the past that made many people hate and distrust Turks, and tend to make people want to deny the progress that Turkey is making as a modern nation.

This was the first good post I've seen from you, and I encourage you to continue this way.

Phil

“Philbert Is Handsome”

Since: May 12

Woodland Hills, California

#17 Sep 1, 2012
This site just ate another of my comments as I posted it. It was a serious post. I WILL NOT BOTHER TO RETYPE IT. I have better things to do with my life.

“Philbert Is Handsome”

Since: May 12

Woodland Hills, California

#18 Sep 1, 2012
My mistake! It has mysteriously appeared again!
Alexandros o Megas

Trípoli, Greece

#19 Sep 1, 2012
Most of Turks are fine people like any of us. Oguz is a mixure of races (mogolian, cypriot, turk, greek) and he doesnt represent Turkish people. He hates every nation because he doesnt belong to any nation.
So we should better not judge Turkish because of TsOglan.

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#20 Sep 1, 2012
Filipsamovich wrote:
<quoted text>
This is exactly what I expect from Turkish people and sounds totally real to me. It mirrors what I told a woman neighbor to expect when she went to Turkey on vacation two weeks ago. She said she was spending the first day by herself in Istanbul and I told her to expect Turks to be extremely courteous.
Having said that, this is not what I read in your posts. Whoever you are, and wherever you are from, you're not like the Turkish people I have known. When I read your comments I'm embarrassed for them and for Turkey.
I don't know why most Turks are so courteous, while you post trash that alienates people and reminds them of past unpleasant encounters. You glorify parts of the past that made many people hate and distrust Turks, and tend to make people want to deny the progress that Turkey is making as a modern nation.
This was the first good post I've seen from you, and I encourage you to continue this way.
Phil
you need to question "your nation's lies,slanders and labelling"about Turks for 180 years ,first...
You have started and you are crying a river when you face the same..What a hypocrisy?
A classic example of your KLEPHTOKRATIA..
Greek Islander

Philadelphia, PA

#21 Sep 1, 2012
ahhh vahhh aman aman, Turkey is surrounded by enemies on all sides...vai vai vai!!!

9 detained in SE Turkey on suspicion of spying for Iran
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/9-detained-i...

Since: Sep 09

ISTANBUL

#22 Sep 1, 2012
Greek Islander wrote:
ahhh vahhh aman aman, Turkey is surrounded by enemies on all sides...vai vai vai!!!
9 detained in SE Turkey on suspicion of spying for Iran
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/9-detained-i...
ahhh vahhh aman aman, Greece is surrounded by german Money collectors on all sides and they are selling every sigle piece of Greece one by one ...vai vai vai!aman aman aman

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