Expert: We must act fast on warming

Expert: We must act fast on warming

There are 28465 comments on the Kansas.com story from Sep 24, 2008, titled Expert: We must act fast on warming. In it, Kansas.com reports that:

Droughts, melting ice caps and glaciers, rising sea levels and mass extinctions will all be a reality unless the U.S. and the world cut back on carbon emissions dramatically, said James Hansen, director of ...

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Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#26773 Apr 12, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Listen, I asked you for evidence. You concede!
Once more, you mentioned "a hoax." Therefore, you should reply to the following post.
<quoted text>
Ha, ha replying to Brian G is of no use. He is merely a simple stooge seeking attention. Does not have it where he is and so as a child seeks it by being ardently obnoxious. We could throw anything out there and he will seek to be pervasive spilling his lack of. He has been doing this for years.
Do you remember when Social Security and Medicare crashed our economy and we had to bail them out. They paid there executives lavishly and celebrated with extravagant parties. Bonuses and gifts for their failures. Hmmm Must be Getting old just can’t remember that.
What has that got to do with Global Warming? As much as what Brian G has to the contributions to Global Warming…
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#26774 Apr 12, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
But, but, but, Brian_G, you wrote:
Using fossil fuel helps free ancient carbon back into the atmosphere where it can do some good. Freeing carbon dioxide into the air helps mitigate climate change against global cooling; the well known ice age climate scenario.
Dear government here is a sample of just how Brian G has lack of.
Gave him exactly what he asked for and then in his following reply he wanted a hint as to where to find these experiments that I just had given him when he asked;
Brian_G wrote:
Einstein's theory of relativity have been experimentally tested, climate change mitigation hasn't.
See the difference?
Correct Einstein proven {so far} as being correct in his theories.
False to say that there is no science to our climate. Requires some research on your part,“IF” you are truly interested. Try paleoclimatology and a few surrounding studies that contribute to this historical knowledge of our climate. Take any one of their theories and seek to disclaim it or find an error in their facts and then we can discuss that. Keep in mind your source will be required and the complete means of how the theory was purposed and proven. Then present your “Facts” that can prove their error. Rambling, opinionated, imaginary substance will be ignored, as it has been addressed several times through out this thread.“OR” have you already forgotten that?

Not one did he take the time to research or read. He is truly missing out on life. He could have traveled back to before there was any free oxygen and the atmosphere was CO2 and Nitrogen, Touched on Volcanism, Binary Star system, Continental drifts and the both times how this drift created 1 super continent, Snowball earth and or tropical earth and so on. Did he read or research any one of these. Nope just comes back with the same old rhetoric and nonsense. Total waste of time is his only goal.
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#26775 Apr 12, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Reply to a conspiracy nut? All hoaxes aren't conspiracies, some are mass delusions, specifically man made global warming and climate change mitigation are popular media fantasies. Business as usual.
Link to source of this nonsense. How and precisly what facts support this. Present the expermints that were conducted that validates your opinion. Tabolids do not count. Link, link,...

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#26777 Apr 16, 2013
Bernard Forand wrote:
<quoted text>
Link to source of this nonsense. How and precisly what facts support this. Present the expermints that were conducted that validates your opinion. Tabolids do not count. Link, link,...
He will never do it because it is all simply goofy brian babble.
SpaceBlues

United States

#26778 Apr 16, 2013
OK. A five-step plan for USA to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 80 percent by mid-century -

Step 1: Cut global warming pollution via "strong legislation that caps carbon emissions and makes polluters pay for the global warming gases they produce."

Step 2: Invest more in green jobs and clean energy.

Step 3: Manufacture more fuel efficient cars.

Step 4: Provide green homes and buildings.

Step 5: Build more sustainable communities and transportation networks.

P.S. What's yours?

Since: Mar 13

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#26779 Apr 17, 2013
Develop and deploy Liquid Fluoride Thorium Recyclers at a minimum rate of one 100MWe plant per day and replace coal fired power plants as quickly as possible. After that, use new LFTRs to produce synthetic fuel for transportation (ammonia should work well for ground transportation).

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#26780 Apr 17, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
OK. A five-step plan for USA to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 80 percent by mid-century -
Step 1: Cut global warming pollution via "strong legislation that caps carbon emissions and makes polluters pay for the global warming gases they produce."
Step 2: Invest more in green jobs and clean energy.
Step 3: Manufacture more fuel efficient cars.
Step 4: Provide green homes and buildings.
Step 5: Build more sustainable communities and transportation networks.
P.S. What's yours?
Those are terrible ideas, we've been raising energy and fuel taxes for years. We have had increased government spending and taxes, what S.B. calls "invest" in green energy since the 1970s, its time to stop.

My plan is to encourage the production and use of energy and fuel. Dump fuel efficiency standards and let markets decide instead of bureaucrats who tie you up with red tape and fines. Deregulate transportation, fuel, energy and buildings, the customer is king.
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#26781 Apr 18, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Those are terrible ideas, we've been raising energy and fuel taxes for years. We have had increased government spending and taxes, what S.B. calls "invest" in green energy since the 1970s, its time to stop.
My plan is to encourage the production and use of energy and fuel. Dump fuel efficiency standards and let markets decide instead of bureaucrats who tie you up with red tape and fines. Deregulate transportation, fuel, energy and buildings, the customer is king.
DEREGULATE! Typical! As a nation grows it must amend its basic foundations to accompany the increase of its populace.
Perhaps something more simple; Say we deregulate our financial institutions what do you think would happen. Well we have a couple of examples of that.{1929 & 2008}
Now lets do a thought experiment. As our transportations grew we evolved from the horse and buggy days to horseless carriages. New regulations were required. Now for the fun part. Lets abandon our DOT regulations. Remove the road markings, stop signs, heck all traffic signs, speed limits who needs them. Now how long before you get out there on those roads, with the other horseless carriages, would it take before you come to realize the error of your ways of deregulations?
From the past, one more eloquent then I, summed it up.

The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the GOSEPEL OF ENVY!…. Winston Churchill

Something our so called Brian G has a problem with comprehending.. Symptom of right wing republicanisms. They do have treatments for that infection. Seek them in educational institutions.
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#26782 Apr 18, 2013
KitemanSA wrote:
Develop and deploy Liquid Fluoride Thorium Recyclers at a minimum rate of one 100MWe plant per day and replace coal fired power plants as quickly as possible. After that, use new LFTRs to produce synthetic fuel for transportation (ammonia should work well for ground transportation).
Totally disagree. Radioactivity substances should remain under well regulated labs for further research. Maturity of our world populace has not yet reached the level required for their dispersals to energy plants.
Medical application should continue to explore the benefits no doubt but the general distribution and accumulation is easily observable in the difficulties that the leaders of the worlds are having problems with. Now increase distributions to corporations? Dear me NO! They have demonstrated their lack of respect for such a toxic system in favor of their profit margins.
Why, even you carry radioactive pollutants within you, as does all living organisms in this world. Accumulation will continue for thousands of years, especially to the top consumers of consumption.
Perhaps with Fusion ? More forgiving than radioactive toxics. Ahh but that a horse of a different color.

Since: Mar 13

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#26783 Apr 18, 2013
The point about LFTRs is that they REDUCE the availability of dangerous radioactive wastes. And I specified 100MWe units because they are easy to build NATURALLY safe. Your thinking needs an update and reboot.
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#26784 Apr 18, 2013
KitemanSA wrote:
The point about LFTRs is that they REDUCE the availability of dangerous radioactive wastes. And I specified 100MWe units because they are easy to build NATURALLY safe. Your thinking needs an update and reboot.
You failed to address the maturity of our populace to safely handle and use Radioactive compounds. Presently I reiterate that under well regulated research labs to continue to investigate its potential. Not ready for corporations explorations. Here is some of the latest research in diminishing radioactivity. Keep in mind that it is only one factor required before we can use it responsibly. Have some links if you wish to indulge further. Note the effects on soil and vegetation. Consumed by our populace. That is why every living organism contains radioactive pollutants and it will continue to accumulate within the host of consumption. Yes I’m aware of the radioactive vaccination being developed in Russia. That is again one more factor that needs to be addressed before going to corporations. Hmmm why need we to seek all this complex energy when the Sun is shinning outside?
IEER;
A key approach to reducing the uptake of Tc by humans is to reduce Tc(VII) levels in plants, and thus in soils, and thus ultimately its water solubility. In order to render it insoluble, Tc(VII), a redox-active element, may be reduced to a lower oxidation state, thereby controlling its levels in plants. Soils contaminated with Tc may also be heated to roughly 1000 °C in order to volatilize the Tc; however, this does not eliminate all of the Tc within a sample, and repeated efforts of volatilization do not substantially lower Tc levels. Most disposal techniques for nuclear waste deal with the removal of cationic species, which are much more common.[6] This makes the elimination of the anionic pertechnetate species more difficult. Transmutation is an alternative disposal method, in which Tc-99 is bombarded with neutrons to form Tc-100, which quickly decays to ruthenium-100.
The large-scale production of Tc-99, in conjunction with its long half-life, makes the removal of this isotope an important problem. While few efficient methods for its removal are currently in place, the development of such methods is an active field of research.
[1] "Technetium," in CRC Handbook of Chemistry & Physics, 84th Ed., D. R. Lide, ed.(CRC Press, 2004), pp. 4-29.
[2] M. García-León, "Tc-99 in the Environment: Sources, Distribution and Methods," J. Nucl. Radiochem. Sci. 6, 253 (2005).
[3] K. Tagami, "Technetium-99 Behavior in the Terrestrial Environment - Field Observations and Radiotracer Experiments," J. Nucl. Radiochem. Sci. 4, A1 (2003).
[4] K. Schwochau, Technetium: Chemistry and Radiopharmaceutical Applications (Wiley, 2000).
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#26785 Apr 18, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Climate change mitigation is a hoax; the lack of experimental tests prove this.
But, but, but, Brian, YOU told us CO2 has kept us from slipping into another ice age.

Are you lying again?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#26786 Apr 19, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
But, but, but, Brian, YOU told us CO2 has kept us from slipping into another ice age. Are you lying again?
Only with the assumption AGW theory is true. Don't leave out the conditions. I don't believe our CO2 is as significant a climate force; this is where we differ.

Gcaveman reads the conclusion he wants and ignores an unfortunate precondition. So typical.

Thanks for those experiments, they aren't field tests but they are very reassuring. CO2's greenhouse gas warming effect is very small for each doubling in the test atmosphere's, less than 1°C each time. Did you find any more?
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#26787 Apr 19, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Only with the assumption AGW theory is true. Don't leave out the conditions. I don't believe our CO2 is as significant a climate force; this is where we differ.
Gcaveman reads the conclusion he wants and ignores an unfortunate precondition. So typical.
Thanks for those experiments, they aren't field tests but they are very reassuring. CO2's greenhouse gas warming effect is very small for each doubling in the test atmosphere's, less than 1°C each time. Did you find any more?
When you confirmed the role of CO2, you didn't say, "Only with the assumption AGW theory is true."

You are a liar.

But this is not the only time. That's why you have been honored with the sobriquet, lyin' brian.
Truthsayer777

Since: Jul 11

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#26788 Apr 19, 2013
Worry about God's judgements about to come upon the earth, not global warming: www.scribd.com/doc/22629976 ...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#26789 Apr 19, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
When you confirmed the role of CO2, you didn't say, "Only with the assumption AGW theory is true." You are a liar. But this is not the only time. That's why you have been honored with the sobriquet, lyin' brian.
No, I probably wrote something more like:

"If man made CO2 emissions change climate then we are already mitigating climate change...." I don't believe man made greenhouse gases are significant climate drivers, like the sun and altitude. This is where we differ.

I don't call my political opponents 'liars', they are often mistaken because they don't use the scientific method. If you can't find compelling experimental tests for climate change mitigation; how can you not be a skeptic?
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#26790 Apr 19, 2013
[QUOTE who="lyin' brian"]they are often mistaken because they don't use the scientific method.[/QUOTE]

You never had science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for your poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa. You never had science or mathematics of any kind, after that. Your own errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES, 73 million TIMES, & 2.5+ trillion TIMES, shows you have no ability to critique science research.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#26791 Apr 19, 2013
Truthsayer777 wrote:
Worry about God's judgements.......
Worry, yes, by doing God's Will in Love before the Judgement. Help the poor, needy, injured, & diseased. Work to alleviate conditions that will hurt the poor, needy, injured, & diseased.
Truthsayer777

Since: Jul 11

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#26792 Apr 19, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Worry, yes, by doing God's Will in Love before the Judgement. Help the poor, needy, injured, & diseased. Work to alleviate conditions that will hurt the poor, needy, injured, & diseased.
www.scribd.com/doc/22629976...
Truthsayer777

Since: Jul 11

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#26793 Apr 19, 2013

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