2 bishops warn lawmakers on nuclear plant revival

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MANILA, Philippines - Two Catholic Bishops have expressed objection to the planned revival of the Bataan Nuclear Power Plant .

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koz

Broadview Heights, OH

#1 Jan 23, 2009
What do they know?
DRJ

Lakewood, OH

#2 Jan 23, 2009
koz wrote:
What do they know?
Nothing factual about energy sources, that is for sure.
BDV

Chicago, IL

#3 Jan 24, 2009
More proof that Catholic Church is held together by something stronger than its leadership...

Encouraging tho, that the top two Filipino papists the envirofascists could enroll were small fry. One is not even full bishop. No archbishops involved. Not to mention CARDINALS (3 active).

Since: Feb 09

Canada

#4 Mar 1, 2009
BDV wrote:
More proof that Catholic Church is held together by something stronger than its leadership...
Encouraging tho, that the top two Filipino papists the envirofascists could enroll were small fry. One is not even full bishop. No archbishops involved. Not to mention CARDINALS (3 active).
Seen what happens to ferries in your country, sent out into known bad weather to capsize. Seen how every level of building a roadway is greased with corruption.
Sorry, but if you ever got that reactor going it would only be a matter of time before you had your own Chernobyl. Too likely some part of it was build faulty, with short cuts and skimming cash let alone running it without someone missing something.

Only a matter of time before the Bataan Meltdown occurs.

That being said, theres still dozens of questionably built and maintained reactors in Russia. Any one of those could go at any time too.
BDV

Atlanta, GA

#5 Mar 2, 2009
Paul_da_Canuck wrote:
Sorry, but if you ever got that reactor going it would only be a matter of time before you had your own Chernobyl. Too likely some part of it was build faulty, with short cuts and skimming cash let alone running it without someone missing something.
Only a matter of time before the Bataan Meltdown occurs.
Filipino people are accustomed with trading danger for opportunity. See Pinatubo Volcano. The alternative is to keep paying the petroshaikhs, sugar-daddies of Abu-Sayyaf.
I guess them Flips should just shut up and pay the jizzya. Or does General Otis II need to slap a dhimmi, again?
BDV

Atlanta, GA

#6 Mar 2, 2009
Paul_da_Canuck wrote:
Flips are incompetent.

Ivan is incompetent
Both Rus-Land, and Flip-Land are somewhat removed from your dwelling, PdC.

Why the concern?

Since: Feb 09

Ottawa, Canada

#7 Mar 2, 2009
BDV wrote:
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Both Rus-Land, and Flip-Land are somewhat removed from your dwelling, PdC.
Why the concern?
Looks pretty close to my beloved Subic Bay retirement area. Id hate to have the area irradiated, would ruin the ambience of walking along the beach in Subic (less the dont swim in the water high ecoli count issue). Even know the small community I want to rent, though its a few years away yet.

And given the time frame even if everything was poured into making it fire up, Irradiation could occur after retirement.

Retirement in Chernobyl has been notably down since their meltdown. Id rather risk 5 feet of volcanic ash.

Since: Feb 09

Ottawa, Canada

#8 Mar 2, 2009
Oh found a pic of Europe, and the range that Chernobyl had fallout reach. Simply amazing.

Now put the Phillipines Bataan area as the ground zero and make a guess as to how bad it would be IF something went wrong.

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/14898/...

Full article here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/27/13551...

So question is, is the risk worth those megawatts cause if it does go wrong. But then I assume you are 100% confident that there will be cost cutting or hidden defects and or potential lack of training wont occur. All I can say is if theirs a bald white guy by the name of Homer working there, run, then fire him.

“Followers are Good Leaders”

Since: Mar 09

Quezon City

#9 Mar 2, 2009
i think the enviromentalist Group should be the one to educate the Masses or the Masa. on this topic,

Since: Feb 09

Ottawa, Canada

#10 Mar 2, 2009
And found this what if scenario with distances if something similiar happened in the UK. Once again make ground zero that reactor.

Just a thought, afterall im only retiring, it is your country to do with as you wish.

http://www.no2nuclearpower.org.uk/Chernobyl-U...
BDV

Atlanta, GA

#11 Mar 2, 2009
PdC

You touched the sensitive point:

Risk vs. Megawatts.

When
(a) millions have to live within the reach of a active exploding volcano (Pinatubo)
(b) Phillipine's OWN fuel expeditures fund an armed insurgency in Phillipines (the petroshaikh sponsorship of AbuSayyaf)

Then, the risks associated with a negative-void-coefficient nuclear reactor become acceptable. Even with corruption and incompetence.

Again, Chernobyl style reactors were so obviously flawed that even Soviet block/Warsaw pact stooges refused them, opting for VVERs instead (and Romania choosing the canadian CANDU design).
anobserver

Urdaneta, Philippines

#12 Mar 2, 2009
Consult with nuclear experts from Japan concerning reactors that can with stand earthquakes and forget that rusting pile of rubble. Establishing nuclear power is not a political get rich quick game. It is very serious but if done correctly would cetertainly benefit this country. Take shortcuts that would allow higher kick backs could end in a major disaster. You do not give gasoline to arsonists and you do not give the greedy and corrupt the control over nuclear power.
BDV

Decatur, GA

#13 Mar 3, 2009
anobserver wrote:
You do not give gasoline to arsonists and you do not give the greedy and corrupt the control over nuclear power.
But how does that compare to the sponsoring of AbuSayyaf through buying of PetroShaikh?

If India, host of worlds' DEADLIEST industrial disaster (UnionCarbide's Bhopal accident), could run a nuclear energy program without major problems, why not Phillipines?

Remeber, at TMI, a commercial reactor was out of human control for days! How many injuries were there? How many deaths? Commercial nuclear power has a safety record unparalleled in human industrial history.

To keep sponsoring the PetroShaikhs and OilBarons, when by the Grace of God we have this reliable and safe energy source available - that's the height of folly.
koz

Shippingport, PA

#14 Mar 25, 2009
anobserver wrote:
You do not give gasoline to arsonists
No, they have to buy it.
Dan

Centereach, NY

#15 Mar 26, 2009
anobserver wrote:
Consult with nuclear experts from Japan concerning reactors that can with stand earthquakes and forget that rusting pile of rubble. Establishing nuclear power is not a political get rich quick game. It is very serious but if done correctly would cetertainly benefit this country. Take shortcuts that would allow higher kick backs could end in a major disaster. You do not give gasoline to arsonists and you do not give the greedy and corrupt the control over nuclear power.
As you can see by the following text no one is advocating just starting up this reactor like you do with your car when you get home from vacation.

Despite never having been commissioned, the plant has remained intact, including the nuclear reactor, and has continued to be maintained. The Philippine government completed paying off its obligations on the plant in April 2007, more than 30 years after construction began.
On January 29, 2008, Energy Secretary Angelo Reyes announced that International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) 8-man team led by Akira Omoto inspected the mothballed Bataan Nuclear power station on rehabilitation prospects. In preparing their report, the IAEA made two primary recommendations. First, the power plant's status must be thoroughly evaluated by technical inspections and economic evaluations conducted by a committed group of nuclear power experts with experience in preservation management. Second, the IAEA mission advised the Philippines Government on the general requirements for starting its nuclear power programme, stressing that the proper infrastructure, safety standards, and knowledge be implemented. The IAEA's role did not extend to assessing whether the power plant is usable or not, or how much the plant may cost to rehabilitate.
Dan

Centereach, NY

#16 Mar 26, 2009
Paul_da_Canuck wrote:
And found this what if scenario with distances if something similiar happened in the UK. Once again make ground zero that reactor.
Just a thought, afterall im only retiring, it is your country to do with as you wish.
http://www.no2nuclearpower.org.uk/Chernobyl-U...
You keep forgetting about the containments on these reactors that did not exist at Chernobyl or any of the other RBMK-1000s, not to mention positive void coefficient, low rod worth, low rod speed, electronic scram delay, etc. details, details, details.

Since: Feb 09

Ottawa, Canada

#18 May 8, 2011
Found this old thread, Hows the re-evaluation going after the Japanese disaster?
morons united

Seattle, WA

#19 May 8, 2011
Over populations is the cause and reason for the need of nuclear plants. Wake up Bishops all you know what to do is protect your interest and agendas.
BDV

Atlanta, GA

#20 May 9, 2011
lemme see:

On top of more of 25,000 civilians dead in the tsunami, the Fukushima radiation leak lead to an additional civilian death toll of...
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wait
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wait for it
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ZERO additional deaths. ZIPPO. ZILCH. NADA.
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So yeah, nuclear is still the way to go.
AC Live

Pampanga, Philippines

#21 May 9, 2011
It's built on an active volcano and fault zone with 4000 defects in it's construction.
Do you really want it started up?

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