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Dominion Virginia Power, a subsidiary of Dominion , bid $1.6 million to win the lease for 112,800 acres of federal land off the coast of Virginia to develop an offshore wind turbine farm capable of generating up to 2,000 megawatts of electricity, enough for 700,000 homes.

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The Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#21 Oct 28, 2013
I am very well aware*

Since: Mar 13

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#22 Oct 28, 2013
wow, "The Dude" believes himself a mind reader to know where I go and with whom I associate. Or is it that he is just a nasty little twerp who needs to play the race card himself?(He says he is very well of his nastiness, whatever THAT means.)
The Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#23 Nov 12, 2013
KitemanSA wrote:
wow, "The Dude" believes himself a mind reader to know where I go and with whom I associate. Or is it that he is just a nasty little twerp who needs to play the race card himself?(He says he is very well of his nastiness, whatever THAT means.)
All I know is that you think a century old idiom that uses shovels has something to do with racism. I'm simply calling a duck a duck, since you're too stupid to know the difference between the two types of shovels; something I knew in elementary school. You connected this hundred year old phrase to racism, not me. It's easy to deduce that you have either used or heard this idiom in a racial context before, therefore it is easy to deduce what kind of person you are, or the types of people you hang around.

I never played the race card, or actually referred to anyone of race; that was you, kiddo.

What that means is; I've been doing this internet thing for a while now. If you think I'm vulgar, you should have been around the sports boards in the 90s. It's pretty clear, though, that I've broken your little heart.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#24 Nov 12, 2013
The phrase of calling a spade a spade has been around for ever. Calling smeone out for its use is small minded and, well, ignorant. Period.

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#25 Nov 15, 2013
Yes, it has, and has been used by racists for as long, AFAIK. Yes, I have had to associate with racists, and they do use that saying in a racist way. Indeed, it is the only context I have had to hear it in. The fact that someone used it 100 years ago in a non-racist way does not change the fact that it is uses that way today.
The Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#26 Nov 15, 2013
KitemanSA wrote:
Yes, it has, and has been used by racists for as long, AFAIK. Yes, I have had to associate with racists, and they do use that saying in a racist way. Indeed, it is the only context I have had to hear it in. The fact that someone used it 100 years ago in a non-racist way does not change the fact that it is uses that way today.
I've never heard it in racial context, ever. It's older than "if it walks looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck; it's a duck."
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After some research,"to call a spade a spade" has refered to the gardening tool known as a trough has been in exsistence for about 2000 years and in english for 500 years. It wasn't until the 20s that a spade started being referred the ace of spades , and it apparently became racial in the US during the late 80s, and in Britian in the 50s.
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http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/09/1...
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Now go to the comments sections and you'll see that I'm not alone in finding it odd that it had racial overtones today.

I would say that is clearly a reflection on the people you associate with, because the majority of educated individuals do not associate it with racism.

When I was in elementary school I lost a bet on this:
http://www.sowanddipity.com/wp-content/upload...
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I thought the spade was the tipped pointed shovel.
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Class dismissed.

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#27 Nov 19, 2013
Guess you lived an insulated life. How lucky.
The Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#28 Nov 25, 2013
KitemanSA wrote:
Guess you lived an insulated life. How lucky.
If you call living in several states (Washington, California, Illinois, Massachusetts, Florida, and Virginia) in all four corners of the US and being deployed multiple times to the Middle East with people from all walks of life insulated, then yeah... insulated. Perhaps it's the company I keep.

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#29 Nov 26, 2013
How bout that, almost,(well ALMOST almost) as many places as me. And in all that time you never heard that expression used in a racial context? REALLY? TRULY? Somehow I doubt that.
The Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#30 Dec 10, 2013
KitemanSA wrote:
How bout that, almost,(well ALMOST almost) as many places as me. And in all that time you never heard that expression used in a racial context? REALLY? TRULY? Somehow I doubt that.
Not once, like I wrote, perhaps it's who I associate with, and even the dubious individuals that I've associated with never used it in a racial context, just as I didn't.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#31 Dec 12, 2013
We're all racists whether we accept or not. Its a human condition born out of instinct. Survival accually. These days it becomes more pronounced as a result of street violence.

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#32 Dec 12, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Not once, like I wrote, perhaps it's who I associate with, and even the dubious individuals that I've associated with never used it in a racial context, just as I didn't.
Well... oookkkaaayyy... I still have my doubts, but...

Maybe it is more a case of Pollyanna-ism rather than the folks you hung out with.
The Dude

Rapidan, VA

#33 Jan 5, 2014
KitemanSA wrote:
<quoted text> Well... oookkkaaayyy... I still have my doubts, but...
Maybe it is more a case of Pollyanna-ism rather than the folks you hung out with.
Or maybe you're just an out and out uneducated racist that uses colloquialisms that have been around for thousands of years incorrectly. It's more likely the latter, since It has meant a shovel for close to two millennia and only been used as an epithet by racists for a decade or two.
The Dude

Rapidan, VA

#34 Jan 5, 2014
sez you wrote:
We're all racists whether we accept or not. Its a human condition born out of instinct. Survival accually. These days it becomes more pronounced as a result of street violence.
There is a difference between judgement that is associated with the survival instinct and the prejudice of racism. One is based on observed behavior, the other is based on assumptions; in other words, we are not all racists, only the ignorant makes prejudiced opinions based on assumptions.

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#35 Jan 8, 2014
Nope, I guess it is more that you are ignorant of the world. Bye.
The Dude

Warrenton, VA

#36 Feb 9, 2014
KitemanSA wrote:
Nope, I guess it is more that you are ignorant of the world. Bye.
LOL @ the ignorant uneducated racist calling me ignorant.

Since: Mar 13

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#37 Feb 12, 2014
More like the educated, experienced world traveler calls you provincial and ignorant.
The Dude

Glen Allen, VA

#38 May 12, 2014
KitemanSA wrote:
More like the educated, experienced world traveler calls you provincial and ignorant.
If you were so educated you would know that a spade is a shovel, and if you weren't such an ignorant racist, you would know the origin of the colloquialism has nothing to do with racism. It's unlikely that you're either, and more likely are a typical internet superstar, or in otherwords; a hero in your own mind, but really, just a loser.

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#39 May 14, 2014
And it is also a suit in a deck of cards, a black suit if memory serves.

And if you are so "anti-racist" why do you object when I called you for using a racist saying? A simple "I didn't mean it that way" would have sufficed. But instead you attack the messenger. Methinks thou doth protest too much?
The Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#40 May 16, 2014
KitemanSA wrote:
And it is also a suit in a deck of cards, a black suit if memory serves.
And if you are so "anti-racist" why do you object when I called you for using a racist saying? A simple "I didn't mean it that way" would have sufficed. But instead you attack the messenger. Methinks thou doth protest too much?
It is a suit in a deck of cards, which only recently led the colloquialism in recent history to be used as a racial pejorative, which you instantly assumed, erroneously, to be thought of in that context; which can only lead one to believe that you have used in that context or surround yourself with those who use it in that context often. I even gave you a link showing that the history of the colloquialism is close to two thousand years old.(That is even older than your Hamlet misquote) If you can't figure out that means I most obviously didn't use it the racial pejorative epithet that you're used to hearing it in or using in, then you're dumber than I give you credit for.

Do you need me to rehash this entire thread for you, or can you go back and re-read it for yourself?

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