Can Europe Wean Itself Off Russian Gas?

Can Europe Wean Itself Off Russian Gas?

There are 20 comments on the GPB.org story from Mar 21, 2014, titled Can Europe Wean Itself Off Russian Gas?. In it, GPB.org reports that:

The Russian gas giant Gazprom's Adler thermal power plant in Sochi, Russia. Europe gets about one-third of its natural gas from Russia.

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John

Miami, FL

#1 Mar 22, 2014
Europe doesn't really need to get any natural gas from Russia.....Algeria, Libya, Canada, United States and the North Atlantic got more of it.
John

Miami, FL

#2 Mar 22, 2014
pretty much Turkmenistan got more than half of Russia's natural gas reserve (BP estimate).

Turkey has invested $34 billion into Turkmenistan and got natural gas pipelines that runs into Turkey from Turkmenistan.

Turkmenistan, Algeria and United States....these three all together got same reserve of natural gas as Russia.....and don't forget, there is a whole lot more natural gas in the World than there as use for it.

Actually, you can easily do without natural gas....In America, that only got 1/3 of Russia's natural gas, we got enough natural gas for the next 100 years.

Russia intimidating behaviour most likely will result in it supplying China and India more than Europe down the road......we really cannot trust Russia.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#3 Mar 22, 2014
John wrote:
Europe doesn't really need to get any natural gas from Russia.....Algeria, Libya, Canada, United States and the North Atlantic got more of it.
Russia has the greatest gas and oil reserves in the world.
Liquid gas from US is a way more expensive than Russian one which EU gets through pipeline.

Since: Feb 14

Tejgaon, Bangladesh

#4 Mar 22, 2014
John wrote:
pretty much Turkmenistan got more than half of Russia's natural gas reserve (BP estimate).
Turkey has invested $34 billion into Turkmenistan and got natural gas pipelines that runs into Turkey from Turkmenistan.
Turkmenistan, Algeria and United States....these three all together got same reserve of natural gas as Russia.....and don't forget, there is a whole lot more natural gas in the World than there as use for it.
Actually, you can easily do without natural gas....In America, that only got 1/3 of Russia's natural gas, we got enough natural gas for the next 100 years.
Russia intimidating behaviour most likely will result in it supplying China and India more than Europe down the road......we really cannot trust Russia.
You really think it'll hard for russia to cut the deal?
John

Miami, FL

#5 Mar 22, 2014
Alexey25 wrote:
<quoted text>
Russia has the greatest gas and oil reserves in the world.
Liquid gas from US is a way more expensive than Russian one which EU gets through pipeline.
BP estimates that Iran has more natural gas than Russia.....and I find BP very reliable source as BP has interests in Russia.

Anyways, it doesn't matter as there is no demand for so much natural gas....so what Turkmenistan got is quite useful for Europe....unless Putin cuts the pipeline.

At the end of the day, China is a greater market for Russia than Europe which is surrounded with alternative suppliers for the next 100 years.
John

Miami, FL

#6 Mar 22, 2014
The days where Western Europe and America were the only ones that matter are over.

In terms of economy and military, China will match us sooner or later....which is a good thing for Russia that has a problems getting along with other white people.

That said, if Putin stays out of the rest of Ukraine and moderates himself a little bit over the next couple of years....everything might normalise a little bit.....but I doubt, any European country will continue relying on Russia as the only natural gas suppliers......they might have to look for alternative suppliers.....Ukraine might have to use some of it's own natural gas.
The Tsarevich

Toronto, Canada

#7 Mar 22, 2014
John wrote:
<quoted text>
BP estimates that Iran has more natural gas than Russia.....and I find BP very reliable source as BP has interests in Russia.
Anyways, it doesn't matter as there is no demand for so much natural gas....so what Turkmenistan got is quite useful for Europe....unless Putin cuts the pipeline.
At the end of the day, China is a greater market for Russia than Europe which is surrounded with alternative suppliers for the next 100 years.
You mean the same BP which lied tremendously to cover up it's catastrophic failure in the 2010 oil spill in the gulf of Mexico, is a more reliable source?
You gotta be kidding.

Iran supports Russia, not the west. The Iranians aren't stupid to alienate an ally and embrace a mortal enemy instead.

Turmenistan as well as the other STANS are also leaning more towards China and Russia. As China is going to become the single most important global market for energy exports and Russia is the power with real mojo, not hollow paper tigers like the west.

You're right about one thing though. China is or will soon be a greater market than the EU and the US combined.
Putin already knows that, along with the fact that The US and EU are has been powers.

That's why Putin shows the west his middle finger and embraces China. As will the rest of the world.

The west's days of complete global dominance are coming to a close. The west just doesn't want to accept that reality yet.
rio

London, UK

#8 Mar 22, 2014
John wrote:
Europe doesn't really need to get any natural gas from Russia.....Algeria, Libya, Canada, United States and the North Atlantic got more of it.
There is no pipeline between US or Canada and Europe.
rio

London, UK

#9 Mar 22, 2014
John wrote:
pretty much Turkmenistan got more than half of Russia's natural gas reserve (BP estimate).
Turkey has invested $34 billion into Turkmenistan and got natural gas pipelines that runs into Turkey from Turkmenistan.
Look at a map.

A pipeline flowing gas from Turkmenistan to Turkey would have to cross areas under Russian control.
rio

London, UK

#10 Mar 22, 2014
John wrote:
<quoted text>
BP estimates that Iran has more natural gas than Russia.....and I find BP very reliable source as BP has interests in Russia.
But Iran is the subject of sanctions, and cannot export gas to the West!!
rio

London, UK

#11 Mar 22, 2014
The Tsarevich wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right about one thing though. China is or will soon be a greater market than the EU and the US combined.
Exactly!

Putin has already said in the past, that if he meets too much problems with the West, he will turn Russia towards the East.

Russia belongs to 2 continents, and Asia is in the ascent now, where Europe is in decline.

For years China has been asking for more energy and mineral resources from Russia.
China is the next superpower.
rio

London, UK

#12 Mar 22, 2014
The Tsarevich wrote:
<quoted text>
The west's days of complete global dominance are coming to a close. The west just doesn't want to accept that reality yet.
Very true.

The US and the EU are acting as if they had still much importance.

Have you noticed that none has dared to contemplate military action.

After years of futile wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, neither the US or NATO has the will for a prolonged war against Russia. Also, the public opinion in the West would be against it.
Oliver Cromwell

Blackburn, UK

#13 Mar 22, 2014
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Very true.
The US and the EU are acting as if they had still much importance.
Have you noticed that none has dared to contemplate military action.
After years of futile wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, neither the US or NATO has the will for a prolonged war against Russia. Also, the public opinion in the West would be against it.
Those criminal cowards never did have the ball's for a real war against a Country who could fight back,they shoud stick to trashing small third world Countries its about their depraved level.small fries
Avenger

Cambridge, Canada

#14 Mar 22, 2014
The Tsarevich wrote:
<quoted text>You mean the same BP which lied tremendously to cover up it's catastrophic failure in the 2010 oil spill in the gulf of Mexico, is a more reliable source?
You gotta be kidding.
Iran supports Russia, not the west. The Iranians aren't stupid to alienate an ally and embrace a mortal enemy instead.
Turmenistan as well as the other STANS are also leaning more towards China and Russia. As China is going to become the single most important global market for energy exports and Russia is the power with real mojo, not hollow paper tigers like the west.
You're right about one thing though. China is or will soon be a greater market than the EU and the US combined.
Putin already knows that, along with the fact that The US and EU are has been powers.
That's why Putin shows the west his middle finger and embraces China. As will the rest of the world.
The west's days of complete global dominance are coming to a close. The west just doesn't want to accept that reality yet.
"China is or will soon be a greater market than the EU and the US combined."

For what dogs as food

"The Iranians aren't stupid to alienate an ally and embrace a mortal enemy instead."

Russia isn't an ally of Iran they block sales of S-300's to them.

Get a grip Chrisy
Avenger

Cambridge, Canada

#15 Mar 22, 2014
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Very true.
The US and the EU are acting as if they had still much importance.
Have you noticed that none has dared to contemplate military action.
After years of futile wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, neither the US or NATO has the will for a prolonged war against Russia. Also, the public opinion in the West would be against it.
Hehe
Kremlin Rio and Kremlin Cromwell spinning silly yarns.
Nobody is going to war over Crimea you can come down from your Kremlin perch now.
The Tsarevich

Toronto, Canada

#16 Mar 22, 2014
Avenger wrote:
<quoted text>
"China is or will soon be a greater market than the EU and the US combined."
For what dogs as food
"The Iranians aren't stupid to alienate an ally and embrace a mortal enemy instead."
Russia isn't an ally of Iran they block sales of S-300's to them.
Get a grip Chrisy
]"For what dogs as food"

Hey fucktard, China is now the biggest single importer of agricultural products. Trade with China has helped many fishermen in Canada's east coast.make a healthy profit.

"Russia isn't an ally of Iran they block sales of S-300's to them".

In the face of western intrigue against Iran, Russia is the closest country Iran has as an ally. Iran supported Russia in it's war against radical islamist separatists in Chechenya.

"Get a grip Chrisy"

Who the phuk is Chrisy?
Avenger

Cambridge, Canada

#17 Mar 22, 2014
The Tsarevich wrote:
<quoted text>]"For what dogs as food"
Hey fucktard, China is now the biggest single importer of agricultural products. Trade with China has helped many fishermen in Canada's east coast.make a healthy profit.
"Russia isn't an ally of Iran they block sales of S-300's to them".
In the face of western intrigue against Iran, Russia is the closest country Iran has as an ally. Iran supported Russia in it's war against radical islamist separatists in Chechenya.
"Get a grip Chrisy"
Who the phuk is Chrisy?
Hehe
Relax crazy man have a Chinese fortune cookie.
The Tsarevich

Toronto, Canada

#18 Mar 22, 2014
Avenger wrote:
<quoted text>
Hehe
Relax crazy man have a Chinese fortune cookie.
You don't want to know what the note inside the fortune cookie says about your future. LOL!!

Since: Apr 14

Location hidden

#19 Apr 24, 2014
It is almost May outside and I'm happy indeed to see that with the steadily coming summer and warm some people including a number of European politicians decided to put their tongues out of their stinking asses and once again to hold those idle talks and empty discussions that allegedly Europe got absolutely no need in russian gas.... Let me just remind it that everything in this world fortunately and unfortunately got its begging and got its end. Summer ends in September.
John wrote:
pretty much Turkmenistan
Oh, really? Then why did nabucco failed? Let me guess... cause evidently Turkmenistan is hardly an alternative.
John wrote:
Turkmenistan, Algeria and United States...
Algeria to support the whole EU with natural gas? Not serious. United States? Expensive shipping + Washington's influence which America will undoubtedly export to Europe along with its gas = poor opportunity as well.

The reality is that Europe cannot now wean itself off russin gas and got 4 months to secure its transit via Ukraine where the ongoing political crisis promises to become a threat to European energetic stability.
Alison Young

Ahmedabad, India

#20 Jun 18, 2014
i think A longer-term option is for Europe to develop more gas supplies of its own.

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