Boost for cars or bust? Ethanol debat...

Boost for cars or bust? Ethanol debate heats up

There are 6 comments on the The Daily Record story from Jul 7, 2013, titled Boost for cars or bust? Ethanol debate heats up. In it, The Daily Record reports that:

It's a dilemma for drivers: Do they choose a gasoline that's cheaper and cleaner even if, as opponents say, it could damage older cars and motorcycles? That's the peril and promise of a high-ethanol blend of gasoline known as E15.

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Everett, WA

#1 Jul 7, 2013
Mathew Daly been shillin' for ethanol for years. Never mentioning that 10% ethanol blends burned in engines designed & built to burn 100% gasoline, lose 5% to 10% mpg, he pretends that ethanol is the fuel of choice. Of course, ethanol isn't the fuel drivers choose, who carefully & accurately track their mpg, & engine smoothness, quietness & power. They choose 100% gasoline.

So does the EPA, itself, who rates gasoline-engined vehicles for mpg, testing with the equivalent of 100% pure gasoline. Gasoline engine vehicle manufacturers love that EPA ratings with 100% gasoline, because the EPA gets the highest ratings with 100% gasoline.

Thousands of drivers using 100% gasoline get higher mpg, some even beyond 10% better. My earlier 3 cars gained 8%, 7% & 5% better mpg after switching to 100% gasoline from 10% ethanol blends. Presently, my 2013 Hyundai Elantra (yes, I even bought it AFTER the EPA downrated its mpg ratings), is averaging 38.9mpg, with a high of 43mpg, which I think, I can get higher.

All my car engines run smoother, quieter, & with a bit extra low rpm torque, such that less down shifting is needed for ascending hills. Ran on a segment of the experimental quiet pavement with Elantra. Suddenly, Elantra was like a quiet magic carpet, with little road, tire & wind noise....... & no engine noise.

Drivers using 100% gasoline support the 6900 stations, now selling 100% gasoline, up from less than 4000 stations, 3 or 4 years ago.

Everett, WA

#3 Jul 9, 2013
The seeming extra efficiency of new gasoline direct injection systems on several brands of of vehicles, may have problems with excess carbon build up in some systems. In addition, ethanol in 10% ethanol blends has developing problems with increasing corrosion in direct injection systems, & cautions are being issued to use "higher quality fuels".

A definition of "higher quality fuels" is 100% gasoline, to get away from ethanol entirely!

Snohomish, WA

#4 Sep 6, 2013
Here's another shill for the ethanol industry, Bloomberg. With the evidence & data pouring out that ethanol is worthless for mpg, mixed into gasoline to be burnt in a gasoline engine designed & built to get the most efficiency from 100% gasoline, the shills are getting desperate:
A tweak to an automobile’s engine software can improve by as much as 20 percent the estimated fuel efficiency when using gasoline with ethanol or methanol......
litesong wrote:
But then the shill has to change the subject of fuel efficiency & talk about pollution:
A Fuel Freedom Foundation study showed that setting the engine to run at an optimal setting for the higher octane in so-called alcohol fuels can cut the greenhouse gases emitted on average by 17 percent to 20 percent.....

Snohomish, WA

#5 Sep 6, 2013
litesong wrote:
Drivers using 100% gasoline support the 6900 stations, now selling 100% gasoline, up from less than 4000 stations, 3 or 4 years ago.
In two months, & its sources of 100% gasoline have increased now, to 7250+ sources. Find new sources of 100% gasoline & list them on


#6 Sep 12, 2013
Some african nations can solve several problems selling ethanol. So why to give terrorists money when we can help poor nations?

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#7 Sep 13, 2013
sudoka wrote:
Some african nations can solve several problems selling ethanol. So why to give terrorists money when we can help poor nations?
So we can give african terrorists money rather than arab terrorists? How is that better?

Why not use excess electrical capacity to make ammonia and keep the money at home? Heck, with Liquid Fluoride Thorium Recyclers we can eliminate the nuclear waste problem, clean up the radioactive byproducts of windmill production, and keep the petro-dollars here at home.

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