Global Climate Talks Need Sense Of Urgency

Nov 8, 2013 Full story: Renewable Energy News 18

Next week's global climate talks in Warsaw, Poland , need to be guided by a new sense of urgency.

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No Warming

Waverly, OH

#1 Nov 8, 2013
But if the past is any indication, its hard to get your hopes up. What will be the process and timeline for cutting greenhouse gas emissions worldwide? How do you enforce any agreement? And who pays what to whom in the way of financial aid, recognizing the economic dilemmas faced today by most developing nations? These are extraordinarily difficult questions with no easy answers.

Heck, they're only demanding $100 billion annually in aid ... HA HA HA. Using the issue for the purpose of extortion is why nothing of substance happens.
Acolyte

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Oct 26, 2014
Experts say this is urgent.
"The First World Is Destroying the Third World Through Climate Change"

http://www.vice.com/gr/read/the-first-world-i...
IBdaMann

Ashburn, VA

#4 Oct 26, 2014
Acolyte wrote:
Experts say this is urgent.
"The First World Is Destroying the Third World Through Climate Change"
When you say "experts" you actually mean "political activists and religious fanatics."

The third world claims that it is being destroyed by the first world because they know that that is what leftist first world governments need to hear in order to issue aid to third world countries.

If first world countries had announced that what they need to hear is that first world countries are causing destructive Global Cooling then that is what the third world countries would be claiming.

In the end, there is still no Global Warming science. It's a religion.
Noidaman Really

Vista, CA

#5 Oct 26, 2014
IBdaMann wrote:
<quoted text>
When you say "experts" you actually mean "political activists and religious fanatics."
The third world claims that it is being destroyed by the first world because they know that that is what leftist first world governments need to hear in order to issue aid to third world countries.
If first world countries had announced that what they need to hear is that first world countries are causing destructive Global Cooling then that is what the third world countries would be claiming.
In the end, there is still no Global Warming science. It's a religion.
No, global warming's caused by integration. No amount of negotiations between so-called First and Third World countries can remedy that. Now, with miscegenation at the astronomical proportion it is with the world's populace, it's simply too late.

There. It's been said.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#6 Oct 26, 2014
Noidaman Really wrote:
<quoted text>No, global warming's caused by integration. No amount of negotiations between so-called First and Third World countries can remedy that. Now, with miscegenation at the astronomical proportion it is with the world's populace, it's simply too late.
There. It's been said.
You appear to possess more Neanderthal genes than even the English and Germans.
Noidaman Really

Vista, CA

#7 Oct 26, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>
You appear to possess more Neanderthal genes than even the English and Germans.
Too true! Me +Glaciers=Happy! Cro Magnon go back to Africa!

I read that the British have about the least amount of Neanderthal, along with the Japanese. Of course the Africans have none at all, except for the cross-breeding we're talking about here.

Once science begins making comparisons and studies, it'll see that warming began increasing exponentially in the mid-to-late 19th Century. Or, began when the New World was discovered and colonized. You'll see scientists have been marking the ice caps retreat for a time, telling us about it for not as long.

So, why is it the British don't have as much Neanderthal, anyway? The island was populated by Iberians after the last Ice Age, so they took all their Neanderthal DNA with them when they crossed the channel 15,000 years ago? Interesting question, and there's the ice caps/glaciers/cold stuff topic again.

See?

“Come and get it! ”

Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#8 Oct 27, 2014
Global warming=B.S.
Shalom

London, UK

#9 Oct 27, 2014
Noidaman Really wrote:
You appear to possess more Neanderthal genes than even the English and Germans.
Seeing you are from Texas you are probably too brain damaged from inbreeding and lack the education to know that's a good thing.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#11 Oct 27, 2014
Noidaman Really wrote:
<quoted text>Too true! Me +Glaciers=Happy! Cro Magnon go back to Africa!
I read that the British have about the least amount of Neanderthal, along with the Japanese. Of course the Africans have none at all, except for the cross-breeding we're talking about here.
Once science begins making comparisons and studies, it'll see that warming began increasing exponentially in the mid-to-late 19th Century. Or, began when the New World was discovered and colonized. You'll see scientists have been marking the ice caps retreat for a time, telling us about it for not as long.
So, why is it the British don't have as much Neanderthal, anyway? The island was populated by Iberians after the last Ice Age, so they took all their Neanderthal DNA with them when they crossed the channel 15,000 years ago? Interesting question, and there's the ice caps/glaciers/cold stuff topic again.
See?
I wrote English, you wrote British in your reply. Who's English? Who's British? Who's German?

Take the Windsors for example. They are German.

Well, the English are running with the genetic data and making it political. Their science has to be revised down the road.

Who's Spanish? Mostly Arab, probably. Who's Greek? Not ancient greek but Turkish and Serbian..

Oh we don't call anybody Cro-Magnin anymore, fyi.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#12 Oct 27, 2014
Noidaman Really wrote:
So, why is it the British don't have as much Neanderthal, anyway? The island was populated by Iberians after the last Ice Age, so they took all their Neanderthal DNA with them when they crossed the channel 15,000 years ago?
FYI: The English Channel didn't exist until around 8,000 years ago.
Until then, it was a part of what is now called Europe.

Hope that helps.ֿ

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#13 Oct 27, 2014
SpamBrat wrote:
Oh we don't call anybody Cro-Magnin[sic] anymore, fyi.
Probably because it's spelt Cro-Magnon.
Noidaman Really

San Diego, CA

#15 Oct 27, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>
I wrote English, you wrote British in your reply. Who's English? Who's British? Who's German?
Take the Windsors for example. They are German.
Well, the English are running with the genetic data and making it political. Their science has to be revised down the road.
Who's Spanish? Mostly Arab, probably. Who's Greek? Not ancient greek but Turkish and Serbian..
Oh we don't call anybody Cro-Magnin anymore, fyi.
I had a cool answer, but apparently the post went away. Sorry: http://resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk...
Quick search, this is what I found. I get it.

But I'm sure you've seen this show:

This is just a short excerpt from the entire program (in case you haven't see it: http://www.youtube.com/watch... . But out of all the English citizens tested, only one old fellow had entirely Northern European and English DNA. That's dismaying to many, as many/most have some kind of mix. But when you see this fellow, you discover that at one time there were many Europeans with European genes; thus, there were Africans with African DNA, Asians with Asiatic DNA, and so forth. Of course, this show is years old now, and with all the advances DNA ethnic testing has had, he might come back with a whole stack of SSA and Asian, maybe even some Native American.

But watch Garry Bushell's reaction when he finds out he's 8% SSA. He takes the rest in stride, but the last rocks him back some. Why?

Because we grow up thinking we're native to where we live. Doesn't matter if we know our parents are recent transplants to an area or country, or even if we move around some in our younger years. We grow up feeling we belong, that we are supposed to be where we are. And the government will either tell us we're right, or they'll tell us we're wrong and put us where they think we're supposed to be. We might then agree, or we might argue. But we know we belong somewhere; I don't think it's human nature to wish to be the Wandering Jew.

Do gypsies and nomadic peoples like the North American Indian think they have roots? The Indian claims the entire continent even though he wandered about in it continuously prior to colonization (with exceptions, true), but to say "This ground from here to there is mine because I was born on it like my father and his father...", does everyone do that? And why?

Maybe because that's not only wishful thinking, it's true. Maybe we sprung from the ground that we were made from, that was made specifically for us. We belong to that land just as much as it belongs to us. Is that more wishful thinking, or is that religion? Or, if not religion, is that the planet?
Not just my ramblings, I've read some, there's many beliefs. But Global Warming and the migration into the Briish Isles (English Isles?), that was after the Neanderthals died off, right?

They say now that all the Mediterranean countries are full up with Semitic (Arab and Jew) and SSA DNA. That was there before the migration across the Channel. Maybe that's where Bushell got his. Can't really tell by his pictures on the Web; does he have kinky hair?

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#16 Oct 28, 2014
Noidaman Really wrote:
I had a cool answer, but apparently the post went away.
I'd wager it wasn't about the topic subject.ֿ
Noidaman Really

San Diego, CA

#17 Oct 28, 2014
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>I'd wager it wasn't about the topic subject.ֿ
No, that's not it.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#18 Oct 28, 2014
Noidaman Really wrote:
No, that's not it.
Why not?

As interesting as your subject is, it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic that's ostensibly under discussion.

Not that "discussion" means much here at Topix.
Noidaman Really

San Diego, CA

#19 Oct 28, 2014
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Why not?
As interesting as your subject is, it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic that's ostensibly under discussion.
Not that "discussion" means much here at Topix.
It certainly does to! This thread is about how climatic (pun) the Earth's environment has gotten. To solve it, it's beginnings must be addressed. To discover its causes, science must not only look to Detroit and its contemporaries to blame for fossil fuel emissions, but to us, Earth's inhabitants.

Perhaps it's not so much what we do, but what we are.

But you're right, this site seems to be much more fun than its pompous peers. Notice I use "to be" frequently? I seem to like it.
Noidaman Really

San Diego, CA

#20 Oct 28, 2014
And now I find that there's a difference between "climactic" and "climatic." So this place is educational.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#21 Oct 28, 2014
This thread is almost a year old, and it's about one of the many failed climate meetings, this one in Warsaw.

Gawd knows why someone bothered to drag it back.

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