Irresponsible Physicians Oppose Nucle...

Irresponsible Physicians Oppose Nuclear Energy

There are 268 comments on the Forbes.com story from Dec 15, 2013, titled Irresponsible Physicians Oppose Nuclear Energy. In it, Forbes.com reports that:

The Columbia Generating Station's nuclear power plant in Richland, Washington that, together with hydroelectric power, gives Washington State the lowest carbon, cleanest energy footprint in America, delivered with the lowest cost per kWhr of any state.

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#102 Feb 15, 2014
KitemanSA wrote:
<quoted text> Your first sentence makes no sense, which is common among anti-nukes, so don't feel TOO badly.
I would VASTLY prefer living next to a nuke than any other type of power plant, and those who actually live next to nukes agree.
http://www.nei.org/CorporateSite/media/filefo...
The history makes no sense to you..

03 December 2012

Seventy years have passed since a team of 49 scientists, led by Italian-born Enrico Fermi, succeeded in creating the world's first self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction.

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/EE-Seventy_...
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#103 Feb 15, 2014
Seventy years after the first sustained nuclear chain reaction took place at the University of Chicago, the nuclear industry has produced up to 200,000 tons of highly toxic radioactive waste but made no progress toward finding a way of disposing of it.

More at:

http://www.newstips.org/2012/11/70-years-of-n...
Realtruth

United States

#104 Feb 16, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Where's your evidence?
SpaceBlues - Have you ever considered that you should not discuss issues you are ignorant of? You time would be spent learning facts rather than spreading panic?

The evidence resides in the many studies of cancer resulting from population exposures to elevated levels of radiation.. The best example is the ones done on the down winders in Utah where in spite of significant radiation exposures from above ground testing in Nevada in the 50s and 60s, the cancer rate evaluated over the past 60 years was actually lower than the US average. This does not mean that the cancer rate would have not been even lower had they have not been exposed, it just mean that 15 years of significant exposures could not compete with clean living Mormans.

Another example is the town in Iran where back ground is 20 REM a year, yet there is a lower cancer rate. Reason ??????

High and medium doses of radiation are clearly an issue but low dose radiation effects (<20 rem) are not always what the models predict. for doses less than 1 rem the predicted effect, if any, can not be measured

There are studies from Chernobyl that do indicate a increase cancer rate (thyroid) for children in the area of the plant but the population was not well protected from consuming the contaminated products so the dose they got could have been even higher than the model used.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#105 Feb 16, 2014
Blah blah.. this is a public forum.

The nukists would wish they could fool forever..

No references, just naked propaganda. After seventy years of it, we the people don't want it.

Go help the Fukushima disaster instead telling the public lies on the Internet.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#106 Feb 16, 2014
Go help the Fukushima disaster instead of.. telling the public lies on the Internet.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#107 Feb 17, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Where's your evidence?
Google it. There have been a number of reports. For example, FEAR of Chernobyl caused more deaths thru needless abortions than will ever die from radiation effects.
The evacuation in Fukushima killed about 700 people, more than will ever likely die from radiation effects.

Study it. Anti-nuke FUD kills more than nuclear crud.
SpaceBlues

United States

#108 Feb 17, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
Seventy years after the first sustained nuclear chain reaction took place at the University of Chicago, the nuclear industry has produced up to 200,000 tons of highly toxic radioactive waste but made no progress toward finding a way of disposing of it.
More at:
http://www.newstips.org/2012/11/70-years-of-n...
Repeat necessary..

These nukists are radioactive.
BDV

Columbia, SC

#109 Feb 18, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
These nukists are radioactive.
.
So are all. Big and small.
.
Shhh, don't tell the sheeple. "Dose Makes the Poison" is beyond their meager mental capacity. Mass hysteria could ensue. See the rolling 'snowmaggedon' of the last week.
RealTruth

Richland, WA

#110 Feb 20, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Repeat necessary..
These nukists are radioactive.
SpaceBlues - How do you well do you manage the buildup of radioactive polonium in your home?
Note: Your tin foil hat doesn't protect you from it.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#111 Feb 20, 2014
LOL. Ignorance is not funny.
BDV

Atlanta, GA

#112 Feb 20, 2014
Indeed it is tragic. But humor is a mature way to protect one's sanity against the madness of sheeplethink..

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#113 Feb 22, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Repeat necessary..
These nukists are radioactive.
Wow, we are radioactive! Such a surprise... NOT!!!

I truly wish you could be totally NON radioactive and suffer the consequenses of being so. Your level of ignorance on this issue is astounding.
SpaceBlues

Hockley, TX

#114 Feb 23, 2014
These nukists would say anything because they are paid to support their industry.

Look at the last message. However, they can't fool the public like they used to.
RealTruth

Richland, WA

#115 Feb 23, 2014
KitemanSA wrote:
<quoted text> Wow, we are radioactive! Such a surprise... NOT!!!
I truly wish you could be totally NON radioactive and suffer the consequenses of being so. Your level of ignorance on this issue is astounding.
The truth is that we are all radioactive due to our potassium content. This results in an internal dose of about 40 mrem/year. If you share your bed this will add another dose of abut 1 mrem/year from that individual/or animal.

Of course 1 mrem/ year is significantly more dose than any in the US got (or will get) from Fukushima.
RealTruth

Richland, WA

#116 Feb 23, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
LOL. Ignorance is not funny.
I agree. Your ignorance is truly sad.
SpaceBlues

Hockley, TX

#117 Feb 23, 2014
RealTruth wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree. Your ignorance is truly sad.
We agree on your ignorance.

I did not correct you but you confused radium with polonium. LOL.

P.S. Go back, reeaders, to its post where polonium in the house is mentioned. How ignorant like a typical shill.
RealTruth

Richland, WA

#118 Feb 24, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>We agree on your ignorance.
I did not correct you but you confused radium with polonium. LOL.
P.S. Go back, reeaders, to its post where polonium in the house is mentioned. How ignorant like a typical shill.
Your ignorance will likely lead to your early demise.

Radium related exposure is on average half an individual's background exposure, but in the case of pooly ventalated homes it can result in exposures many times background. The typical radon "action levels" for radon kits is at a point where the exposure is above 1 rem a year.
Polonium the decay daughter of radium with a 138 day half life is that attaches to the dust particles in your house and is deposited in your lungs. While radium a noble gas is relatively harmless when inhaled the same cannot be said of polonium, the nuclied used to murder Alexander Litvinenko.
SpaceBlues

United States

#119 Feb 24, 2014
RealTruth wrote:
<quoted text>
Your ignorance will likely lead to your early demise.
Radium related exposure is on average half an individual's background exposure, but in the case of pooly ventalated homes it can result in exposures many times background. The typical radon "action levels" for radon kits is at a point where the exposure is above 1 rem a year.
Polonium the decay daughter of radium with a 138 day half life is that attaches to the dust particles in your house and is deposited in your lungs. While radium a noble gas is relatively harmless when inhaled the same cannot be said of polonium, the nuclied used to murder Alexander Litvinenko.
I knew of your ignorance. blah blah now go read some more about how AL was exposed to it...

LOL.

P.S. Hey kal, education is always useful to our readers. But be mindful of the truth.
SpaceBlues

United States

#120 Feb 24, 2014
Hello.. "nucleid" is not a word, kal..
Dan

Upton, NY

#121 Feb 24, 2014
RealTruth wrote:
<quoted text>
Your ignorance will likely lead to your early demise.
Radium related exposure is on average half an individual's background exposure, but in the case of pooly ventalated homes it can result in exposures many times background. The typical radon "action levels" for radon kits is at a point where the exposure is above 1 rem a year.
Polonium the decay daughter of radium with a 138 day half life is that attaches to the dust particles in your house and is deposited in your lungs. While radium a noble gas is relatively harmless when inhaled the same cannot be said of polonium, the nuclied used to murder Alexander Litvinenko.
The Radium, Thorium and Actinium decay chains all have multiple alpha and beta emitting nuclide daughter products. All have Radon daughters with varying half-lives, the longest being Rn-222 about 4 days. This isotope and its decay daughters is responsible for the major dose pathway associated with radon buildup in homes. All of these decay chains also include Polonium most with very short half-lives the longest being 3 days. Po-210 was used to kill alexander Litvinenko primarily because it has an extremely high specific activity with a relatively long half-life about 140 days. This allowed and extremely small amount (micro grams) to create a lethal dose because of it bone seeking properties. This by the way is also associated with all isotopes of Polonium although the half lives are so short it does not have the chance to reach the bone. The dose does in fact make the poison!

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