Alcoa closing Massena's east plant

Alcoa closing Massena's east plant

There are 17 comments on the Ogdensburg Courier-Observer/Journal story from Jan 15, 2014, titled Alcoa closing Massena's east plant. In it, Ogdensburg Courier-Observer/Journal reports that:

Alcoa announced Wednesday that it will permanently close the remaining two potlines at its east plan Massena sometime in the first quarter of this year The announcement came through a statement released by the company's corporate office Wednesday afternoon.

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West plant to close 2018

Massena, NY

#1 Jan 16, 2014
Massena IS SLOWLY BECOMING A GHOST TOWN. JUST WAIT TIL 2018 WHEN IT CLOSED THE WEST PLANT DOWN. Massena WILL EVENTUALLY BE THE SIZE OF RAYMONMDVILLE
Stupid is

United States

#2 Jan 16, 2014
West plant to close 2018 wrote:
Massena IS SLOWLY BECOMING A GHOST TOWN. JUST WAIT TIL 2018 WHEN IT CLOSED THE WEST PLANT DOWN. Massena WILL EVENTUALLY BE THE SIZE OF RAYMONMDVILLE
That may not be a bad thing. Afterall, everybody loves Raymond-ville.
MORE LAYOFFS

Massena, NY

#3 Jan 17, 2014
Stupid is wrote:
<quoted text>That may not be a bad thing. Afterall, everybody loves Raymond-ville.
id be a LITTLE NERVOUS IOF I WAS A VILLAGE EMPLOYEE...THEY ARE NEXT TO BE CUT..SNIP SNIP
Mad dog

Walpole, MA

#4 Jan 18, 2014
What will happen to the town and where do you expect everyone to go.
Alcoa leaving will be the end of this once great small town in the north country. And yes I believe they will be leaving. The trickle down effect.... Retail stores, restaurants, banks what professional people such as Drs, dentists etc will want to stay here.
The property values are already suffering. The downtown is a disgrace, it saddens me to see how the breach, marina and the locks are in such neglected disrepair. There will be no tax base to support any infrastructure. Look around other parts of New York, a drive to let's say Cornell....the surrounding towns look like Appalachia. This is the last of any manufacturing industry here. There are many great people who live here, but when I read the news and see the types of crimes and the people arrested for them, looks like a mini Detroit!
Doesn't look like my home town anymore.
x massena resident

Massena, NY

#5 Jan 18, 2014
Mad dog wrote:
What will happen to the town and where do you expect everyone to go.
Alcoa leaving will be the end of this once great small town in the north country. And yes I believe they will be leaving. The trickle down effect.... Retail stores, restaurants, banks what professional people such as Drs, dentists etc will want to stay here.
The property values are already suffering. The downtown is a disgrace, it saddens me to see how the breach, marina and the locks are in such neglected disrepair. There will be no tax base to support any infrastructure. Look around other parts of New York, a drive to let's say Cornell....the surrounding towns look like Appalachia. This is the last of any manufacturing industry here. There are many great people who live here, but when I read the news and see the types of crimes and the people arrested for them, looks like a mini Detroit!
Doesn't look like my home town anymore.
Theres no saving Massena.in 2018 when Alcoa pulls out completely Massena will go down fast.i expect the mayor and trustees will vote themselves another raise also
getalife

Syracuse, NY

#6 Jan 18, 2014
The funny thing is if Alcoa goes not only will Massena suffer but so will the surrounding towns. But I certainly do not think that will happen.
Alcoa is gone

Massena, NY

#7 Jan 18, 2014
getalife wrote:
The funny thing is if Alcoa goes not only will Massena suffer but so will the surrounding towns. But I certainly do not think that will happen.
The surrounding towns will be ok.postdam has the schools,malone and the burgh the prison......Massena has a new tim hortons which is having a job fair next week....Massena has become the dumping ground of sex offenders,welfare and general low lifes,and thieves.Drugs are running rampant in Massena.heroin, coke,pills you name it. In 2 years when Alcoa goes completely down things will get worse
Stupid is

United States

#8 Jan 18, 2014
Alcoa is gone wrote:
<quoted text> The surrounding towns will be ok.postdam has the schools,malone and the burgh the prison......Massena has a new tim hortons which is having a job fair next week....Massena has become the dumping ground of sex offenders,welfare and general low lifes,and thieves.Drugs are running rampant in Massena.heroin, coke,pills you name it. In 2 years when Alcoa goes completely down things will get worse
By worse, do you mean we will be getting a Starbucks?
Massena is going down

Massena, NY

#9 Jan 19, 2014
Mad dog wrote:
What will happen to the town and where do you expect everyone to go.
Alcoa leaving will be the end of this once great small town in the north country. And yes I believe they will be leaving. The trickle down effect.... Retail stores, restaurants, banks what professional people such as Drs, dentists etc will want to stay here.
The property values are already suffering. The downtown is a disgrace, it saddens me to see how the breach, marina and the locks are in such neglected disrepair. There will be no tax base to support any infrastructure. Look around other parts of New York, a drive to let's say Cornell....the surrounding towns look like Appalachia. This is the last of any manufacturing industry here. There are many great people who live here, but when I read the news and see the types of crimes and the people arrested for them, looks like a mini Detroit!
Doesn't look like my home town anymore.
A few years after Alcoa closes in 2018 youll see not even half the population here.ONE GOOD THING THE A**HOLES RUNNING THIS TOWN WILL BE GONE
Repent the end is near

Massena, NY

#10 Jan 20, 2014
2018 is the end of Alcoa west as we know it in Massena.prepare for it
fed up taxpayer

Massena, NY

#11 Jan 20, 2014
Repent the end is near wrote:
2018 is the end of Alcoa west as we know it in Massena.prepare for it
actually a smaller town will be better....cant wait til they cut village employees
Alcoa retired

Massena, NY

#12 Jan 21, 2014
Repent the end is near wrote:
2018 is the end of Alcoa west as we know it in Massena.prepare for it
Massena topix is entertainment for the people who actually have an education and work. Alcoa I am informed by management people who have all the inside works not you idiots on here. 2015 will be the beginning of the upgrades at the East plant. Closing the pot lines had to be done to do the upgrades. Yes for a while some may be on unemployment for a short time.. This come from people who are on the inside and talk with Pittsburg daily..All you people that love to throw all the hate and happiness of this truly need to think what you are doing when you come on here. FYI many go on this site for the laughs but I would like to see it shut down. STOP the trash.

“BAS in Electrical Engineering”

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#13 Jan 21, 2014
Alcoa retired wrote:
<quoted text>Massena topix is entertainment for the people who actually have an education and work. Alcoa I am informed by management people who have all the inside works not you idiots on here. 2015 will be the beginning of the upgrades at the East plant. Closing the pot lines had to be done to do the upgrades. Yes for a while some may be on unemployment for a short time.. This come from people who are on the inside and talk with Pittsburg daily..All you people that love to throw all the hate and happiness of this truly need to think what you are doing when you come on here. FYI many go on this site for the laughs but I would like to see it shut down. STOP the trash.
So why does the article say permanently close?
worker

Winthrop, NY

#14 Jan 21, 2014
Electrical Engineer wrote:
<quoted text>
So why does the article say permanently close?
Those potlines are permanently closing. The upgrade will be an entirely new potline. If they build it. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

“BAS in Electrical Engineering”

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#15 Jan 21, 2014
worker wrote:
<quoted text>
Those potlines are permanently closing. The upgrade will be an entirely new potline. If they build it. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
Ah I see. It sounded like they were just closing the entire building or something. I was also told NY is giving them shit for not keeping up their side of the deal with the power supply? If that really is the case, I don't think I'd blame Alcoa for jumping ship.
worker

Winthrop, NY

#16 Jan 21, 2014
Electrical Engineer wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah I see. It sounded like they were just closing the entire building or something. I was also told NY is giving them shit for not keeping up their side of the deal with the power supply? If that really is the case, I don't think I'd blame Alcoa for jumping ship.
I do know the state is holding alcoa to the 900 employee part of the contract. For the time being alcoa will be using substantially less power and NYPA stands to make a lot of $$ selling that power on the open market. It stands to reason that there would be a little bit of wiggle room in that contract. Alcoa however is large enough that they could potentially threaten closure of both plants as a scare tactic. Both sides of this do hold a certain amount of leverage, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Anonymous

United States

#17 Jan 21, 2014
Alcoa retired wrote:
<quoted text>Massena topix is entertainment for the people who actually have an education and work. Alcoa I am informed by management people who have all the inside works not you idiots on here. 2015 will be the beginning of the upgrades at the East plant. Closing the pot lines had to be done to do the upgrades. Yes for a while some may be on unemployment for a short time.. This come from people who are on the inside and talk with Pittsburg daily..All you people that love to throw all the hate and happiness of this truly need to think what you are doing when you come on here. FYI many go on this site for the laughs but I would like to see it shut down. STOP the trash.
The trolling around here will never stop, its the nature of the site. But like any troll site there are some with intelligence floating among the masses.

If this is true then its what I figured Alcoa was doing. I'm not sure if the whole "modernization" plan included a completely new structure, if it did either way Alcoa is going to just save money buy gutting the East Plant, and its not surprising.

The old Reynolds Metals (East Plant) operation runs the Soderberg smelting process, one of two smelting processes. The other is pre-baked, which all of Alcoa operates on. Soderberg pots burn hotter (using more energy) and produce a ton of pollutants. The old Reynolds plant has always struggled with the EPA regulations since they were created. Even after the billion dollar filtration system was built, the plant could not pass, and has run on special permits since. Those permits signed in the 1990s expired December 31st 2013.

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