Seven years and counting: Navajo Prep...

Seven years and counting: Navajo Prep meets AYP again

There are 42 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Oct 14, 2008, titled Seven years and counting: Navajo Prep meets AYP again. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

For the seventh consecutive year, Navajo Prep accomplished math, reading and graduation goals and the school is deemed to have made Adequate Yearly Progress, according to a recently released report.

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However

Chinle, AZ

#1 Oct 14, 2008
NP does have day students and not every single student lives on campus. While this is good news, I first heard it this morning on KTNN, I would like parents and students alike to not forget that in the year of 2005 they had one suicide and over 10 different students were taken to the hospital for suicide attempts. This does not count the number of those who were NOT TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL as dorm staff and SCHOOL OFFICIALS made the decision to not take the student to seek medical care, but INSTEAD had them go see the school contracted counselor and ON-CALL psycologist. There were not reported numbers for those student who talked about it, but there were some. In the ensuing years, I don't know of what has happen, but as a relative to one student who did commit suicide at NP, I would like everyone who reads this to be reminded that this picture is not all rosey and filled with rainbows. And I would challenge this newspaper and other media outlets to go on any given night...around 7-ish and you yourself can see how many students are wondering around...how many are going off into the dark and doing LORD KNOWS WHAT...and you can also see that not one adult is around. I did this one night around 8pm and saw what it was like. Yes, they made AYP, but there are others things that need addressing. Lastly, I would ask to see their evening agendas and ask the students if this is what they really do or do they aimlessly wonder like what I saw. Thank you and don't mean to start a fire, I believe the staff and Mrs. Ojaye do their best, but more needs to be done.
Duh

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Oct 14, 2008
Let's be honest, it's a *private* school that can self-select the students it admits, which means that it can skim off the top. The public schools are manadated to take everyone who shows up at their doorstep: the physically challenged, mentally handicapped, drug dealers, criminals, gang bangers... well, you get the idea. Somehow I have a feeling that those types of students are not at Prep (or at least make up only a very small fraction of the population).

Albuquerque Academy also always meets AYP... could it have something to do with the fact that they only allow in students that could pass the AYP exams with their eyes closed in the first place?

Kudos goes to Prep, but this article is a little like congratulating a fish for learning how to swim. It would be real news and I'd be MUCH more worried if for some reason they DIDN'T pass AYP.
Whit

Tuba City, AZ

#3 Oct 14, 2008
Congratulations to Navajo Prep students, faculty and staff for AYP achievements over the years. Regardless of what some people with negative or mudsligging have to say, may your success continue. Past incidents concerning suicide and attempted suicide all goes back to the parents as to how they were brought up at home. Parents of students with attitude problems needs to reevaluate themselves and past on good teaching and counseling at home rather than just drop off their high school students at NP and forget about them until the next holiday. I also believe that Navajo Prep made adjustments in their prospective student selection and start turning down some problematic students with bad parent backgrounds. These problematice students have initiated problems for the school. It is not the environment or school policies and procedures, but rather personal problems carried to school from home. Go Eagles of Navajo Prep!
joe

Ely, NV

#4 Oct 14, 2008
I applaud Navajo Prep and their accomplishments in regards to NCLB requirements. I don't know of many BIA funded schools that can boast such a claim. NCLB has brought schools to focus on student achievement, but at a cost. We seem to focus on "THE TEST" and leave behind teaching guiding principles (honesty, responsibility, respect and etc..What will NCLB do when all schools don't make 100%?
StepfordStudents

Chinle, AZ

#5 Oct 14, 2008
Whit wrote:
Congratulations to Navajo Prep students, faculty and staff for AYP achievements over the years. Regardless of what some people with negative or mudsligging have to say, may your success continue. Past incidents concerning suicide and attempted suicide all goes back to the parents as to how they were brought up at home. Parents of students with attitude problems needs to reevaluate themselves and past on good teaching and counseling at home rather than just drop off their high school students at NP and forget about them until the next holiday. I also believe that Navajo Prep made adjustments in their prospective student selection and start turning down some problematic students with bad parent backgrounds. These problematice students have initiated problems for the school. It is not the environment or school policies and procedures, but rather personal problems carried to school from home. Go Eagles of Navajo Prep!
Well no wonder...

To suggest that NP only accepts students from "Brady Bunch" family is just ludicrous! Not every student is penalized for having a dysfunctional family. If thaat were the case 50 percent of all families in America would be exempt from attending a school like NP or NP itself.

How silly to suggest that a kid is discriminated for having a father and mother that were divorced and because of that...they weren't allowed into NP...that is just stupid and run along the logic of wanting a perfect world when one doesn't exist.

I hearby title NP the Navajo Stepford School.

Pleasssse!
sighing

Chinle, AZ

#6 Oct 14, 2008
And are you saying that everyone at NP is perfect and its the students who bring problems from the outside in? That is beyond laughable. I would suggest you ask a few of the former employees who have left and that includes support staff and some construction staff. I would also ask some former students who are adults now and laugh about how they partied out, got drunk, got stoned and ran around at all hours of the night. Go ask them.

You can understand now how Navajo Mission and Navajo Academy students don't even want to be associated with Navajo Prep and insist on saying they graduated from Navajo Mission or Navajo Academy.....NOT NAVAJO PREP.
hmmm

United States

#7 Oct 14, 2008
Lets not bring the past...what can we gain from it? Only by moving forward can we get ahead of the past.
I sympathize with the students & parents of lost loved ones.
But, truly, can one fault an instituation as a whole? I agree in on what was stated in an earlier comment "Past incidents concerning suicide and attempted suicide all goes back to the parents as to how they were brought up at home."

I applaud the school & administrators, past and present for achieving this goal for the school & MOST IMPORTANTLY THE STUDENTS!!

The negative feed back probably stems from disgruntled parents whose child didn't pass the entrance exam or had a child drop out due to failing grades.

Kudos to Prep Eagles!!
Whit

Tuba City, AZ

#8 Oct 14, 2008
sighing wrote:
And are you saying that everyone at NP is perfect and its the students who bring problems from the outside in? That is beyond laughable. I would suggest you ask a few of the former employees who have left and that includes support staff and some construction staff. I would also ask some former students who are adults now and laugh about how they partied out, got drunk, got stoned and ran around at all hours of the night. Go ask them.
You can understand now how Navajo Mission and Navajo Academy students don't even want to be associated with Navajo Prep and insist on saying they graduated from Navajo Mission or Navajo Academy.....NOT NAVAJO PREP.
The ones I know have nothing praise for Navajo Prep and they are artists, in colleges and have good jobs. I believe you are referring to the school when it operated differently and when you snuck out to party and goof-off. The system in place is different and more and more students want to attend this school, but the school can only so many. That's why interview conferences are important. Yes, I stand behind what I said that problems unknown to faculty which the parents and prospective student tend to hide from the interviewer become problems in the future. Teacher-student ratio are also commentable. Instead of being a critic, why not just support the school and attend some of their meetings and even tour the facility. Go NP Eagles!
David Velarde Jr

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Oct 14, 2008
Hey, congradulate Navajo Preparatory. It does what its supposed to and that's to educate students. i wish more of our students here in Dulce had that attitude and would at least study. We barely made AYP at the high school but not middle and elementary levels. Some of the students here can't read but are passed on, I think that's a shame. In our day we at least learned to read.
hmmm

United States

#10 Oct 14, 2008
Whit wrote:
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The ones I know have nothing praise for Navajo Prep and they are artists, in colleges and have good jobs. I believe you are referring to the school when it operated differently and when you snuck out to party and goof-off. The system in place is different and more and more students want to attend this school, but the school can only so many. That's why interview conferences are important. Yes, I stand behind what I said that problems unknown to faculty which the parents and prospective student tend to hide from the interviewer become problems in the future. Teacher-student ratio are also commentable. Instead of being a critic, why not just support the school and attend some of their meetings and even tour the facility. Go NP Eagles!
YEP!!
Hip Hip..Horrayy!! Go Eagles....Game on!!
NP is a Private School

United States

#11 Oct 14, 2008
Whit wrote:
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The ones I know have nothing praise for Navajo Prep and they are artists, in colleges and have good jobs. I believe you are referring to the school when it operated differently and when you snuck out to party and goof-off. The system in place is different and more and more students want to attend this school, but the school can only so many. That's why interview conferences are important. Yes, I stand behind what I said that problems unknown to faculty which the parents and prospective student tend to hide from the interviewer become problems in the future. Teacher-student ratio are also commentable. Instead of being a critic, why not just support the school and attend some of their meetings and even tour the facility. Go NP Eagles!
And the ony WAY you get GET IN, is if you know someone there or you are a Navajo Councilman's Kid!
What a joke! Yeah MOST of the NP grads go on to college, but tell me how many even GET college degrees?
hmmm

United States

#12 Oct 14, 2008
NP is a Private School wrote:
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And the ony WAY you get GET IN, is if you know someone there or you are a Navajo Councilman's Kid!
What a joke! Yeah MOST of the NP grads go on to college, but tell me how many even GET college degrees?
There is a thing called an entrance exam.
What does having to know anyone have to do with getting into NP?

Seems to me you don't know NP that well..
First of all, everybody knows that our former Chairman Peter McDonald attended Navajo mission as it was called back then...then there was the late Carl Todacheene..need I say more?

Also current and former staff members also attneded NP & currently teach at Prep..
Ervin Tsosie Ganado AZ

Silver City, NM

#13 Oct 14, 2008
"Students live on campus, have a structured school-related schedule in the evenings, attend mandatory study hall and have access to a variety of learning tools on campus." Quote from the Daily Times
The picture is not as peachy as it is painted, behind the scenes there is plenty to hide, like what happened to my daughter.
Ervin Tsosie Ganado AZ

Silver City, NM

#14 Oct 14, 2008
It is absurd to attempt to reflect responsibility away from the school. My daughter left us on a weekly basis on Sunday @ 2pm and we did not get to see her until Friday @ 6pm. Whoever made the statements as to parents being responsible for upbringing is missing the target. Look up the term "En Loco Parentis", and maybe you can modify your opinion. My daughter spent four years at the school which would mean she was definately influenced by the school. My hope was a positive influence but losing a child at the school reflects otherwise. I should have taken a second look when I realized a Christian by faith was heading a school that was suppose to teach Navajo ideals and teaching.
VerySad

Chinle, AZ

#15 Oct 15, 2008
NP is a Private School wrote:
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And the ony WAY you get GET IN, is if you know someone there or you are a Navajo Councilman's Kid!
What a joke! Yeah MOST of the NP grads go on to college, but tell me how many even GET college degrees?
THANK YOU. I am not saying that NP is totally bad, I mean hey, if the NNCouncil voted to give them millions each year for less than 200 students, hey, I vote them in and I can guarantee you that if the NNCouncil gave each school on Navajo a couple million each year for the perks NP has, you bet our kids would do better on their test scores. I am not a former student, went to school in the Valley at a top-10 high school district and don't have a kid who is trying to get in after his dad told him NP is not the same school he went to as a teen (Navajo Mission) and once he toured the place with his cousins who attend there (AND EVENTUALLY THOSE COUSIN LEFT DUE TO FAVORTISM BY DORM STAFF & ADMINISTRATION) and decided on his own to not go there as he himself saw it was all hype and had no real substance. I'm sure they do a lot of great things, but you have to understand, it's not all what you people seem to think it is. By the way, why don't you ask a councilperson who serves on the NNCouncil Education Committee their thoughts on all the suicide attempts and their disbelief and anger at not being informed of this, as it was their money (NN funds) that allowed those multi-million dollar dorms, new football field and other buildings to be erected. I stand by my opinion as well. Some of you have no heart regarding teens who are suicidal and it further proves that you are all about academics and not the mental and emotional development of all teens, students and kids. NO WONDER!
Condolences

Chinle, AZ

#16 Oct 15, 2008
Dear Mr. Tsosie and family,

My thoughts have been with you over the years after your tragic loss and I know your heart will never heal. Please know that I never met your child, nor knew anyone who knew her,but I do feel your sadness and pain of losing a child. That is something that is hard to understand. Please realize some of these comments made by people regarding suicide and teens who feel overwhelmed are made by those who don't understand. And unfortunately, they probably never will. My prayer is that those individual NEVER EVER get a phone call like the one you and your wife got regarding what happened at this prestigious school that was and is SUPPOSE to be infusing Navajo values and teachings. I pray that you are doing better and that your family has some comfort in knowing your loss and pain was shared by those of us who care and love children the world over. Bless you and your family...and yes, bless NP.
hmmm

United States

#17 Oct 15, 2008
VerySad wrote:
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THANK YOU. I am not saying that NP is totally bad, I mean hey, if the NNCouncil voted to give them millions each year for less than 200 students, hey, I vote them in and I can guarantee you that if the NNCouncil gave each school on Navajo a couple million each year for the perks NP has, you bet our kids would do better on their test scores. I am not a former student, went to school in the Valley at a top-10 high school district and don't have a kid who is trying to get in after his dad told him NP is not the same school he went to as a teen (Navajo Mission) and once he toured the place with his cousins who attend there (AND EVENTUALLY THOSE COUSIN LEFT DUE TO FAVORTISM BY DORM STAFF & ADMINISTRATION) and decided on his own to not go there as he himself saw it was all hype and had no real substance. I'm sure they do a lot of great things, but you have to understand, it's not all what you people seem to think it is. By the way, why don't you ask a councilperson who serves on the NNCouncil Education Committee their thoughts on all the suicide attempts and their disbelief and anger at not being informed of this, as it was their money (NN funds) that allowed those multi-million dollar dorms, new football field and other buildings to be erected. I stand by my opinion as well. Some of you have no heart regarding teens who are suicidal and it further proves that you are all about academics and not the mental and emotional development of all teens, students and kids. NO WONDER!
You said "Teens who are sucidal"...why would they be?
Maybe some feel that because of home life...parents who aren't together, siblings & parents who drink and do drugs..some are even in denial that they abuse these things...It all starts at home..encouragement, discipline..support..etc..etc. .

As for the NN council, you think they aren't aware of the things going on..they are BUT, they would rather think of where there next trip will be..where they will spend $$$$$ and if they have enough on to get back home with...
GoodLuck

Chinle, AZ

#18 Oct 15, 2008
hmmm wrote:
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You said "Teens who are sucidal"...why would they be?
Maybe some feel that because of home life...parents who aren't together, siblings & parents who drink and do drugs..some are even in denial that they abuse these things...It all starts at home..encouragement, discipline..support..etc..etc. .
As for the NN council, you think they aren't aware of the things going on..they are BUT, they would rather think of where there next trip will be..where they will spend $$$$$ and if they have enough on to get back home with...
Since you show you aren't getting anything I'm saying...I'll just say you are one ignorant soul who doesn't have a clue as to anything about suicide.

Some very amazing people had children who committed suicide and it wasn't due to their being bad parents as you suggest.

Mary Tyler Moore
Gloria Vanderbilt
Danielle Steel...are just a few. And I feel sad for them because some kids, teens and young people have issues that we don't even know much about and it has nothing to do with our allegedly parenting skills.
HOPE

United States

#19 Oct 15, 2008
For the parents who lost their child to suicide.Your child is up in heaven with the lord. I know that you can't get your child back, but you can't continue to blame the school for your lost. Your child may have been going thru some problems with home,school or something that happened to them that they couldn't tell you. Let your child rest in peace and go on with your life. You may have others in your family that need your love. Every school has issues with drugs, alcohol or any kind of peer pressures. The school is also grieving, but they need to serve the students that are currently there. I'm happy for NP to make AYP!
hmmm

United States

#20 Oct 15, 2008
GoodLuck wrote:
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Since you show you aren't getting anything I'm saying...I'll just say you are one ignorant soul who doesn't have a clue as to anything about suicide.
Some very amazing people had children who committed suicide and it wasn't due to their being bad parents as you suggest.
Mary Tyler Moore
Gloria Vanderbilt
Danielle Steel...are just a few. And I feel sad for them because some kids, teens and young people have issues that
we don't even know much about and it has nothing to do with our allegedly parenting skills.
Kids shouldn't be thinking about all these things if YOU talk to them, spend time with them, nurture them and best of all give all the love and attention they deserve! It all goes back to parenting..which side of the bed you wake up!

Talk to them, not talk AT them like your doing...listen to what they have to say..then you'll get an idea of what their going through..

Instead of saying something ignorant like.."And I feel sad for them because some kids, teens and young people have issues that we don't even know much about"

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