Our view: Learn which Erie schools wi...

Our view: Learn which Erie schools will close

There are 45 comments on the Erie Times News story from Apr 9, 2012, titled Our view: Learn which Erie schools will close. In it, Erie Times News reports that:

On Wednesday, Erie residents will get the news we've anticipated for months: how the Erie School District will fix its crumbling buildings and resolve its budget woes.

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TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Apr 10, 2012
There's a lot of data to absorb.

For instance, despite having enough room for 19,500 students, just over 12,300 students attend Erie schools.

OK

Some schools don't have room for physical education and science labs are too small.

Technology is outdated in every school.

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despite having enough room for 19,500

schools don't have room for physical education and science labs are too small.

WTF?
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Apr 10, 2012
Jay Badams and his staff will urge the School Board to adopt short-term and long-term plans to fix our schools so they educate all children, even as the district crawls out of its financial hole.
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a budget deficit of more than $10 million for the 2012-13 school year.

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Erie schools need as much as $271 million in repairs.

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Government unions should be illegal.

They are a conflict of interest, and they’re probably the closest thing to a legalized mafia we have here in the US.

It’s extremely difficult to get rid of a bad government worker; and once they have acquired any kind of seniority (5 years or so), it’s almost impossible.

So once they’re on the public payroll, they remain a millstone around the taxpayer’s neck as long as they live.

And these ‘freely negotiated contracts’ are often put in place by people who have made inside deals—sort of a ‘you-scratch-my-back-I’ll-scra tch-yours’ arrangement.

The suckers paying the tax bill usually have no clue what’s going on.

‘Public servant’? I’ve known a few good ones, but the term is rapidly becoming an oxymoron.

A ‘public servant’ worthy of the name is efficient and conscientious about both their job performance and the tax dollars they are spending.

The quality of their work speaks for itself.

They don’t view their position as a vehicle for oppression or revenge against businesses or other members of the public.

Someone like that doesn’t need to hide behind a government union.

I think it’s the bad apples (and the mediocre) that benefit the most from the protection of government unions.

And that’s what is bankrupting so many city governments.

http://online.worldmag.com/2010/12/15/tyranny ...
Taxed2Death

Pittsburgh, PA

#3 Apr 11, 2012
We are waiting. Close some schools now.
CloseNow

Pittsburgh, PA

#4 Apr 11, 2012
The Erie School district needs to close schools now. There is excess capacity. This needs fixed now!
sneakrette

Erie, PA

#5 Apr 11, 2012
Button, Irving, & Glenwood are getting the ax
sneakrette

Erie, PA

#6 Apr 11, 2012
sneakrette wrote:
Button, Irving, & Glenwood are getting the ax
Burton, dam auto correct
glenwoodville

Stow, OH

#7 Apr 11, 2012
sneakrette wrote:
Button, Irving, & Glenwood are getting the ax
Oh no! We are going to have to go to school with colored folk?
Nasty

Erie, PA

#8 Apr 11, 2012
The Erie School District does not consist of schools. Instead the Erie District is comprised of many large buildings that contain numerous amounts of city kids ages 5 through 19 under the supervision of licensed adults paid to maintain reasonable levels of civil order for a designated 180 days each year as mandated by state law. To believe that acceptable standards of learning and productivity take place within these bulidings is pure folly.
men of prep

Stow, OH

#9 Apr 11, 2012
Nasty wrote:
The Erie School District does not consist of schools. Instead the Erie District is comprised of many large buildings that contain numerous amounts of city kids ages 5 through 19 under the supervision of licensed adults paid to maintain reasonable levels of civil order for a designated 180 days each year as mandated by state law. To believe that acceptable standards of learning and productivity take place within these bulidings is pure folly.
You're correct, they don't learn shit at collegate academy. That 28 grand you gave to prep was money well spent.
Nasty

Erie, PA

#10 Apr 12, 2012
men of prep wrote:
<quoted text>You're correct, they don't learn shit at collegate academy. That 28 grand you gave to prep was money well spent.
Ooooh, did I hit a nerve ? Ok, I'll give you that one, just that one you bozo. Yes, mark this down..... Collegiate Academy (note the correct spelling of collegiate )is the one and only exception among the dozens of Erie District schools that can say adequate learning takes place and students leave the school with skills good enough to improve the sorry and downward spiralling state of this once proud city. Good "gotcha" there, I concede you made your point but the odds are overwhelmingly in my favor when describing the incredible farce that the Erie district has become. As for that 28 grand spent on Prep....my son will recoup that easy enough with a far better education. He already has since he received much more in college scholarships than most Erie District kids and 27 college credits earned while at Prep. Most Erie District kids are simply warehoused for 7 hours five days a week. Maintaining civil order is the number one objective over learning at these pathetic excuses for schools. Excluding your Collegiate Academy of course !
men of prep

Stow, OH

#11 Apr 12, 2012
Nasty wrote:
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Ooooh, did I hit a nerve ? Ok, I'll give you that one, just that one you bozo. Yes, mark this down..... Collegiate Academy (note the correct spelling of collegiate )is the one and only exception among the dozens of Erie District schools that can say adequate learning takes place and students leave the school with skills good enough to improve the sorry and downward spiralling state of this once proud city. Good "gotcha" there, I concede you made your point but the odds are overwhelmingly in my favor when describing the incredible farce that the Erie district has become. As for that 28 grand spent on Prep....my son will recoup that easy enough with a far better education. He already has since he received much more in college scholarships than most Erie District kids and 27 college credits earned while at Prep. Most Erie District kids are simply warehoused for 7 hours five days a week. Maintaining civil order is the number one objective over learning at these pathetic excuses for schools. Excluding your Collegiate Academy of course !
You know it! With a giant in the education field like chris haggerty running the show prep is by far the areas finest institution. Take that you mayonaise eaters.
Nasty

Erie, PA

#12 Apr 12, 2012
men of prep wrote:
<quoted text>You know it! With a giant in the education field like chris haggerty running the show prep is by far the areas finest institution. Take that you mayonaise eaters.
So then, you're willing to admit how awful these other Erie public schools are ? Even you know they're beyond bad and beyond hope !
men of prep

Stow, OH

#13 Apr 12, 2012
Nasty wrote:
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So then, you're willing to admit how awful these other Erie public schools are ? Even you know they're beyond bad and beyond hope !
We can admit nothing about those schools because we don't attend them, for we are the men of prep.
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Apr 12, 2012
With Badams' commitment to transparency, we're all getting an education about how school policy should be formed, debated and carried out.

A total of 889 of the district's 1,365 employees are teachers, and in order to freeze their wages district officials would have to persuade the Erie Education Association, the union representing Erie teachers, to agree.

That is something administrators could not accomplish in 2011.
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Apr 12, 2012
12,300 divided by 889 = 13.83577

poor over-worked union pigs
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#16 Apr 12, 2012
Orwell uses Squealer to mainly show how some governments and politicians use propaganda to get their ideas accepted and implemented by the people.

In the end, Squealer reduces the Seven Commandments into one commandment, that

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

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In order to freeze their wages district officials would have to persuade the Erie Education Association, the union representing Erie teachers, to agree.

That is something administrators could not accomplish in 2011.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".
Nasty

Erie, PA

#17 Apr 12, 2012
men of prep wrote:
<quoted text>We can admit nothing about those schools because we don't attend them, for we are the men of prep.

Weak response my friend. You're out of ammo.
men of prep

Stow, OH

#18 Apr 12, 2012
Nasty wrote:
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Weak response my friend. You're out of ammo.
We respond however we want. We went to prep and we are the elite. Titans of education like hann, wenrick, the picewicz's, mullen and dollinger instilled that in us. We bow to no one. We are the men of prep.
Prepster

Erie, PA

#19 Apr 12, 2012
men of prep wrote:
<quoted text>We respond however we want. We went to prep and we are the elite. Titans of education like hann, wenrick, the picewicz's, mullen and dollinger instilled that in us. We bow to no one. We are the men of prep.
Mike Barletta, Queen of Prep, Pray for us.
glork

Stow, OH

#20 Apr 12, 2012
men of prep wrote:
<quoted text>We respond however we want. We went to prep and we are the elite. Titans of education like hann, wenrick, the picewicz's, mullen and dollinger instilled that in us. We bow to no one. We are the men of prep.
funny you have to label yourself as a man because nobody else will.

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