Was it intelligence or arrogance?

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Jeb Bush 's tenure revisited What Mike Thomas calls Jeb Bush's intelligence, I call arrogance.

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eagle

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No more bushes!!!
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School vochers are a good idea, the public school system can used the competion maybe they will improve their product. Tax cuts always a good idea especially for peopple who provide jobs and opportunities for other people. Terri S. case I just don't know why that whole thing evolved the way it did, maybe a slow news day for the media. Learning the lessons with natural diasters and producing the best LOCAL response system in the country, something every Floridian should be proud of. The only arrogance I see is from those who fail to see the entire picture and only believe they are right and anybody who differs from them is wrong.
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Yes, wasn't Jimmy Carter's Presidency such a wonderful model we should all aspire to ? Oooops I guess I wasn't supposed to mention that - "Hate Speech" you see just bubbles up once again from this old Conservative.

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It would be an interesting fight, wouldn't it, to see Jeb Bush, the rightful heir to the Bush Political Dynasty, going up against Sarah Palin, the Wasilla Hillbilly appointed by God and the GOP? Makes you wonder who McCain will hug... I'll bring the popcorn!

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hmmm... hillbilly seems to be a bad word in the Sentinel lexicon. . . wonder what other words won't make the cut. . .
Gator

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Fed Up wrote:
School vochers are a good idea, the public school system can used the competion maybe they will improve their product. Tax cuts always a good idea especially for peopple who provide jobs and opportunities for other people. Terri S. case I just don't know why that whole thing evolved the way it did, maybe a slow news day for the media. Learning the lessons with natural diasters and producing the best LOCAL response system in the country, something every Floridian should be proud of. The only arrogance I see is from those who fail to see the entire picture and only believe they are right and anybody who differs from them is wrong.
Jeb Bush's private school vouchers were ruled unconstitutional. Jeb was also given the same ruling for his illegal intrusion into the private family matter of Terri Schiavo (may she rest in peace). Bush had no business continuing to arrogantly pursue these infringements of the law, and it was hardly what many of us would consider "limited government."

Unfortunately, trickle-down economics does not work, as many Americans have realized with the Bush brothers' approach in this struggling economy. No mas.
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Of the things I didn't like about Jeb, I do have to say he did a good job making sure the State response was effective to the hurricane hits Florida took while he was in office.

However, it would take a bit to convince me he should be POTUS.
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Gator wrote:
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Jeb Bush's private school vouchers were ruled unconstitutional. Jeb was also given the same ruling for his illegal intrusion into the private family matter of Terri Schiavo (may she rest in peace). Bush had no business continuing to arrogantly pursue these infringements of the law, and it was hardly what many of us would consider "limited government."
Unfortunately, trickle-down economics does not work, as many Americans have realized with the Bush brothers' approach in this struggling economy. No mas.
Public education is a disgrace and left leaning lib judges are to blame along with the Teachers Union. I can't wait to see how the economy works with trickle up. You must be a card carrying ODA (Obama Drone Army) member
Mike

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Public education is a disgrace and left leaning lib judges are to blame along with the Teachers Union. I can't wait to see how the economy works with trickle up. You must be a card carrying ODA (Obama Drone Army) member
Exactly how it is the Judge's fault for doing their job and stating something is unconstutional?

You want to blame people for Florida substandard education system, look who we have elected to State government and the people who put them there. When the budget needs blancing, education is one of their favorite places to slash from.

The big death spiral I saw for the Florida public education system started when the con was executed by Tally to have the voters approve the Florida Lottery as a meens to fund the school system and then was made by the legislature the majority funding source.
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Angela, THANK you for eloquently expressing what many of us feel. The Bushs' arrogance and belief they know better than everyone else eliminated any leadership qualities that may have existed. George and Jeb never learned to lead by respected and honest example. Blind loyalty and contributions earned their attention and appointment to powerful boards regardless of conflicts of interest.

Good riddance Bush brothers!
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Cupcake wrote:
Angela, THANK you for eloquently expressing what many of us feel. The Bushs' arrogance and belief they know better than everyone else eliminated any leadership qualities that may have existed. George and Jeb never learned to lead by respected and honest example. Blind loyalty and contributions earned their attention and appointment to powerful boards regardless of conflicts of interest.
Good riddance Bush brothers!
Cupcake, while I agree with you about the Bushes arrogance & air of superiority, I'm not so sure it applies to ALL of the Bush Clan.

For example, I remember reading an interview in "Rolling Stone" magazine about 4 years ago with Garry Truedeau of "Doonesbury" fame, who pointed out that he went to Yale at the same time Dubya was going there (Dubya being 2 years ahead), and had a good chance to observe first hand the new generation of Bushes, and that based on what he'd witnessed over the last few decades, he came to the conclusion that unlike their father, George, John Elias aka "Jeb", and Neal all were woefully deficient in the spirit of noblesse obligee and humilty that their parents had evidently tried, but failed, to instill into them. And the more I got to thinking about it, the more I came to the conclusion he was right about it.

So I for one ascribe their collective arrogance, condescension, and sense of entitilement to being the moral deficiencies of this particlar generation of Bushes, and not to the entire family.
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Jebasneezer Bush? No thanks.
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Bush forced the teachers to teach and fought the Union. Go Jeb!
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Mike wrote:
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Exactly how it is the Judge's fault for doing their job and stating something is unconstutional?
You want to blame people for Florida substandard education system, look who we have elected to State government and the people who put them there. When the budget needs blancing, education is one of their favorite places to slash from.
The big death spiral I saw for the Florida public education system started when the con was executed by Tally to have the voters approve the Florida Lottery as a meens to fund the school system and then was made by the legislature the majority funding source.
You are completely clueles my advice to you is to put down the pipe, stop drinking the Kool-aide, get a job and by all means move out of your parents house they deserved the break
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Mike wrote:
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Exactly how it is the Judge's fault for doing their job and stating something is unconstutional?
Any judge can find any state law unconstitutional based on his/her own political agenda. Most of the time when a judge declares a state unconstituional he is not basing it on a legal interpretation but rather on his own political views. Just read their court opinions. That is why the appointment of judges by the govenor is one of his/her most important functions.
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Watchdog wrote:
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Any judge can find any state law unconstitutional based on his/her own political agenda. Most of the time when a judge declares a state unconstituional he is not basing it on a legal interpretation but rather on his own political views. Just read their court opinions. That is why the appointment of judges by the govenor is one of his/her most important functions.
And appeals can be run all the way up to SCOTUS. So what is the problem?
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You are completely clueles my advice to you is to put down the pipe, stop drinking the Kool-aide, get a job and by all means move out of your parents house they deserved the break
Really? About which part?
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Cupcake, while I agree with you about the Bushes arrogance & air of superiority, I'm not so sure it applies to ALL of the Bush Clan.
For example, I remember reading an interview in "Rolling Stone" magazine about 4 years ago with Garry Truedeau of "Doonesbury" fame, who pointed out that he went to Yale at the same time Dubya was going there (Dubya being 2 years ahead), and had a good chance to observe first hand the new generation of Bushes, and that based on what he'd witnessed over the last few decades, he came to the conclusion that unlike their father, George, John Elias aka "Jeb", and Neal all were woefully deficient in the spirit of noblesse obligee and humilty that their parents had evidently tried, but failed, to instill into them. And the more I got to thinking about it, the more I came to the conclusion he was right about it.
So I for one ascribe their collective arrogance, condescension, and sense of entitilement to being the moral deficiencies of this particlar generation of Bushes, and not to the entire family.
Okay, I'll agree with your observation. Maybe it was just a case of growing up entitled children of George Sr and Barbara and watching adults practice quid quo pro with cozy political friends Maybe it was a case of too much power in one family at a pivotal time.

From Jeb's local associates it was very clear they drank from the evil fountain.

Buh-bye Bushes! It will be interesting to see how they make their fortune after office.
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Public education is a disgrace and left leaning lib judges are to blame along with the Teachers Union. I can't wait to see how the economy works with trickle up. You must be a card carrying ODA (Obama Drone Army) member
Unfortunately, FL ranks amongst the lowest in the nation for education, no thanks to Jeb Bush's FCAT nonsense. His voucher offense for religious private schools were ruled unconstitutional by the FL Supreme Court in 2006, which included conservative judges btw.

Many Americans are looking forward to Obama's tax plan. It will actually benefit many of us in the middle class struggling in this economy, unlike the Bush brothers favoring their wealthy affiliates and large corporations. No more Bushes.
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"offenses"--sorry for typo.

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