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New state budget: School vouchers more than double | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 131 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 2, 2011, titled New state budget: School vouchers more than double | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Instead of turning away some of the students who want to use tax dollars to attend private school this year, the state is making thousands more vouchers available.

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Mom

Pickerington, OH

#22 Jul 2, 2011
Conservatives Lie wrote:
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Spending PUBLIC tax dollars for PRIVATE religious indoctrination is never a good idea...especially when we are supposed to be sooooooo "broke".
I disagree. If MORE kids would be taught morals, values, ethics...what a better society this would be. I'm all for MORE religious schools, especially if that is what the parents want! The parents are taxpayers too and should have access to the funding dedicated for their child's education to decide what is best. Govt should NOT have a monopoly on education, esp when the track record is so poor.
Linda

Galloway, OH

#24 Jul 2, 2011
Let private business's open up schools. How to bag groceries, how to scan a register, mopping floors, stocking shelves, mowing yards. This is Obama's new normal jobs.
Blinded-By-The-R ight

United States

#25 Jul 2, 2011
Mom wrote:
Choices are good for both the children and the public schools because it brings competition--which encourages quality and efficiency, and value for taxpayer money since the vouchers do not cost anything extra. The more school choice options, the better off we all are.
Nice Post.
Can you provide me with the "Cost" Dollar Amount Please.

Thanks
Superman

Bowling Green, OH

#26 Jul 2, 2011
Oh Linda, it was your Bush/Cheney administration who sent all the jobs overseas. And okay, let the educational system "Move at the Speed of Business!"- we all know it isn't working the current way. But don't take my tax dollars to pay for it. These are just taxpayer-funded private schools.
Greg

Columbus, OH

#28 Jul 2, 2011
Some of you morons miss the point.If the vouchers are worth say $3000. and a good private school<not Charter> tuition is $7000. If you are poor your kid is still going to free school<pubic school>If you make 100,000 yr now you get another 3000. per kid free tuition.This doesn't help poor kids .charter schools are jokes.Edu cation for profit?Instead on mandates to parents to have their kids in school,fed,clothed and ready to learn.We sell are kids down the road.My 3 kids went to public school.Now with 2 bachelors degrees and a third next spring .Their education was sufficient to prepare them for college.Public school teachers didn't teach my kids to Speak English,tie their shoes,behave in class,pay attention,or read.MY WIFE AND I DID.Its not a Teachers responsibility to make sure children have life skills its the parent.In our lazy ass society it teachers have become babysitters.
Overcome evil with good

Pickerington, OH

#29 Jul 2, 2011
Collins44 wrote:
The ghetto public schools in Columbus are failing badly under the "leadership" of Gene Harris, with open fraud in entitlement programs like school lunches, abuse, etc. Its time to give private schools a chance and break up the monopoly of the teacher's union and the Democrat Party which has produced disaster for both students and tax payers.
I have to be honest and say that we can't blame the public school system for "the ghetto public schools in Columbus" that are failing badly. It's not the schools at all. I am a black single mother of two young men in Whitehall who has worked hard to raise my boys "different" from the manure they see all around them - and it worked.

The problem is the compromised lifestyles that people choose to live. Our children grow up seeing their parents sleeping with multiple partners, getting drunk, doing drugs, cursing and living like devils. They see their parents lie, cheat, and steal to get ahead, and live generally sloppy slothful lives. I see it every single day. For some odd reason we expect the schools to change all of this when we cart the kids off to school for several hours a day. It doesn't work like that all.

The problem with our schools and our entire country is that people don't live with integrity or character anymore. Everybody does whatever they feel like doing. We're seeing the fruit of that with our new ghetto trifling generation of children.

Blinded-By-The-R ight

United States

#30 Jul 2, 2011
Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree. If MORE kids would be taught morals, values, ethics...what a better society this would be. I'm all for MORE religious schools, especially if that is what the parents want! The parents are taxpayers too and should have access to the funding dedicated for their child's education to decide what is best. Govt should NOT have a monopoly on education, esp when the track record is so poor.
Nice Post!

Who Teaches "Morals, Values, Ethics..." The Parents Should be TEACHING These @ HOME!

Is it "Moral" to give $88 Million of TaxPayers Money to a Corporation that has already Billions? This Dollar Amount is actually Higher when you combine the other Corporations!

Is it Morally to take Campaign Donation from a Wall Street Investment House to Deregulate a Law that "Protected" your Investment? Then Leave Congress, get a "Series 7 License", wait 1 year (Federal Laws Mandates) then go to work for that Wall Street firm that gave you $$$$?

Is it "Ethics" to align yourself with a "Moral Majority" just for "Free Campaign Advertisement"? Then not do anything substancial for the "Moral Majority"?
Greg

Columbus, OH

#31 Jul 2, 2011
Linda wrote:
Let private business's open up schools. How to bag groceries, how to scan a register, mopping floors, stocking shelves, mowing yards. This is Obama's new normal jobs.
I guess you started paying attention to POLITICS when the black guy got elected huh?

ALL OUR MANUFACTURING JOBS STARTED TO DISAPPEAR DURING 1st BUSH ADMINISTRATION.

Please refrain from making uneducated rants from the hilltop area..

Thank You
Love

Elk River, MN

#32 Jul 2, 2011
Love the school vouchers! It time we get a little competition out there which will force the government schools to improve if they don't want to lose more students.
Logical

Rittman, OH

#33 Jul 2, 2011
Mom wrote:
Choices are good for both the children and the public schools because it brings competition--which encourages quality and efficiency, and value for taxpayer money since the vouchers do not cost anything extra. The more school choice options, the better off we all are.
Mom,
You are spouting off propaganda. Read the research studies showing that charters are no more effective than public schools in most cases and often worse. Two recent ones come from Vanderbilt and Colorado. Read Diane Ravitch's book, "The Death and Life of the Great American School System." The good charters are selective in admission procedures and expel the problem students. Until this country's politicians realize that not all problems in education can be blamed on the teachers nothing will improve. Also, look critically of the definition of a "failing" school. A single subgroup of students, such as special education, can cause a school to be rated as less than effective if their standardized testing scores are below par. Attendance alone can cause a school to be placed in academic emergency, no matter what the test scores are. The charter movement is not proving to be a success as advertised. The way the laws for charters are written, opportunity for corruption is ample. And finally, all parents, think about what the new laws mean for our kids. Now they will be tested in all subjects every year so that the teachers can be proven to have "merit." Put yourself in the teacher's shoes. Wouldn't you be forced to teach to the test if your job depended on it? A test should be a little sample of knowledge to show overall comprehension of the material. When high stakes testing is added, the pressure is there to focus teaching on the little samples not the overall scope of material. Already, schools often increase reading and math time at the expense of other subjects due to the current NCLB testing emphasis on these subjects. I'm not a teacher but I do work in a school and am appalled at the changes NCLB and RTT are bringing to education in our country.
You Elected Him

Naperville, IL

#34 Jul 2, 2011
And yet another extreme Republican agenda emerges: tearing down the separation of church and state and finding a way to support religion in schools with public tax dollars. We should be addressing the problems in the public schools instead of finding ways to further degrade them through a mass exodus. And when the budget is so tight, this shows priorities out of whack. Something else the GOP does not get is that religion should be taught at home and not the classroom! Will they allow those tax dollars to suuport a Muslim school if it emerges? That would be the real test. It's okay only if it's Christian, of course.
You Elected Him

Naperville, IL

#35 Jul 2, 2011
Love wrote:
Love the school vouchers! It time we get a little competition out there which will force the government schools to improve if they don't want to lose more students.
They are not "government" schools - the local government does not run them, at least in central Ohio. Public or publicly funded vs. private would be the term. The competition is a valid point but at what cost is mine. If the public schools further degrade in an area, so too does your property values, don't forget, which hurts the whole community. This is what buyers look at.
Blinded-By-The-R ight

United States

#36 Jul 2, 2011
Linda wrote:
Let private business's open up schools. How to bag groceries, how to scan a register, mopping floors, stocking shelves, mowing yards. This is Obama's new normal jobs.
This is another one of your Crazy, Un Researched, Racist Posts!

Here read this from "Mike" on Dirty Jobs!

http://beta.news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/voca...

Then Come Back and try to hold a decent Debate?

Thanks
KaSUCK

Cleveland, OH

#37 Jul 2, 2011
Unrepentant Cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
All that means is 10,000 more students will have a better chance at a better education. What's wrong with that?
LMAO..obviously you don't know jack. Read up on the "success" of Charter schools in Ohio! They are a JOKE! As are those who think they offer a better opportunity for being educated! Comical!
Blinded-By-The-R ight

United States

#38 Jul 2, 2011
Greg wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess you started paying attention to POLITICS when the black guy got elected huh?
ALL OUR MANUFACTURING JOBS STARTED TO DISAPPEAR DURING 1st BUSH ADMINISTRATION.
Please refrain from making uneducated rants from the hilltop area..
Thank You
Here again another "Great Post"! with "FACTS"!

Keep them Comming!
KaSUCK

Cleveland, OH

#39 Jul 2, 2011
Overcome evil with good wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to be honest and say that we can't blame the public school system for "the ghetto public schools in Columbus" that are failing badly. It's not the schools at all. I am a black single mother of two young men in Whitehall who has worked hard to raise my boys "different" from the manure they see all around them - and it worked.
The problem is the compromised lifestyles that people choose to live. Our children grow up seeing their parents sleeping with multiple partners, getting drunk, doing drugs, cursing and living like devils. They see their parents lie, cheat, and steal to get ahead, and live generally sloppy slothful lives. I see it every single day. For some odd reason we expect the schools to change all of this when we cart the kids off to school for several hours a day. It doesn't work like that all.
The problem with our schools and our entire country is that people don't live with integrity or character anymore. Everybody does whatever they feel like doing. We're seeing the fruit of that with our new ghetto trifling generation of children.
Wow, one of the best posts I have seen! People want to blame schools and teachers for failures. When in fact, it all starts and ends at home! Those kids who are brought up with values, work ethic, with an appreciation for being educated, do well no matter what environment they are in! You get out of something what you put into it!
Some people NEED to stop blaming the schools and take responsibility for their own short comings on how they raise their children!
Kudos to you!!
gumezin

Bellefontaine, OH

#40 Jul 2, 2011
Collins44 wrote:
The ghetto public schools in Columbus are failing badly under the "leadership" of Gene Harris, with open fraud in entitlement programs like school lunches, abuse, etc. Its time to give private schools a chance and break up the monopoly of the teacher's union and the Democrat Party which has produced disaster for both students and tax payers.
I bet you were home schooled.If you wanna send your kids to private schools, no problemo, fish out your checkbook and pay for it.The state has no business subsidising private education. As far as ghettos are concerned, I am wondering which one you grew up in. In your case, maybe they call it something else.
What Do YOU Think

Reynoldsburg, OH

#41 Jul 2, 2011
Conservatives Lie wrote:
<quoted text>
Spending PUBLIC tax dollars for PRIVATE religious indoctrination is never a good idea...especially when we are supposed to be sooooooo "broke".
But don 't these private (parochial) schools cost LESS per pupil than the under-performing Columbus public schools? Sounds like a great way to SAVE money. And as for the religious indoctrination, chances are pretty good that the children being sent to these schools have already been indoctrinated.

Since: Nov 09

Maumee

#43 Jul 2, 2011
The expansion in public money diverted to for-profit charter schools is nothing more than payoff to David L. Brennan and his ilk.
Paul

New Lebanon, OH

#44 Jul 2, 2011
No money for public schools that have a much better track record than charter schools....yet charter schools get an increase in funding? hmmmmm, could that be because the governor is in bed with the charter school program leaders, while the OEA refused to endorse this joke of a governor in the last election....this administration cares NOTHING for these children or they wouldn't have cut the other programs that a lot of these families need....they only care about the bottom line and making money off education helps their bottom line.

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