State's school dropout rate a real ca...

State's school dropout rate a real catastrophe

There are 7 comments on the LA Daily News story from Jul 18, 2008, titled State's school dropout rate a real catastrophe. In it, LA Daily News reports that:

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high school teacher

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Jul 20, 2008
School is not MTV. Teachers in secondary schools should not have to do Disneyland to motivate kids to learn. The eventual reward of a high school diploma and college degree used to be enough of a motivator. Such was the case for the millions of successful, high achieving college grads in high paying, and in many other ways, rewarding careers. The many years I have spent in education have shown me time and time again, that students who choose positive and goal oriented peers, stay away from drugs and gangs, participate and take ownership of the learning process, and most of all, come to school to acquire an education, rather than a social experience, get all the respect they require in order to succeed.

Citrus Heights, CA

#2 Jul 21, 2008
The good doctor Alan Bonsteel has become a one-trick pony in which every ill of our public schools is prescribed and cured by a heavy dose of school choice. That answer is just too simplistic.

L Hedges


#3 Jul 22, 2008
In 1957, while a student at Banning High School in Wilmington, I assisted teaching staff with a survey of drop out students and their families. The number one reason for drop out then was what value the parent placed on the child's education. The culture of the child, including the "culture of poverty" seemed to be a major defining factor as well. In these families the delayed gratification of a high school diploma did not override the pressure to get the maturing child into the labor force, or out of the house as quickly as possible for financial relief. For many families then, an education past the eighth grade for a female child was considered unnecessary by their report. Times may have changed some of these attitudes but I suspect the keys to the current drop out problem are still family values, culture and poverty.
Pomona commuter

Pomona, CA

#4 Jul 23, 2008
layden wrote:
The good doctor Alan Bonsteel has become a one-trick pony in which every ill of our public schools is prescribed and cured by a heavy dose of school choice. That answer is just too simplistic.
And why not a "simple" answer for a change? Lets try it...a voucher system and tax money for private schools can't do any worst than the situation occurring presently!
Pomona commuter

Pomona, CA

#5 Jul 23, 2008
If this report is true and the state government has been under reporting the real dropout rates, then some heads should roll! I just cannot believe it...up to 30% drop out!!(and prison populations soar!)

Seattle, WA

#6 Jul 23, 2008
All the HS kids wanna do today is to get laid!

Chino, CA

#7 Apr 24, 2009
I teach high school Algebra. I can tell you, the underlying reason for failure is simple immaturity. It takes a certain level of self control to listen, self correct, and to succeed. That is why so many return to get their GED later. I agree with the previous comment that a culture of poverty creates student who do not value their education. It has very little to do with ability as most schools have numerous programs to "fill the holes". Many students do very well, but those destined to drop out are the ones who are immature and don't value education. They think nothing of talking over the teacher, sneak their earphones into their ears. I can't even get some of them to copy answers off the board. Anyone who thinks the students fail simply because they are unprepared needs to meet some of my students who have a solid grasp of the multiplication and fractions, but won't attend long enough to learn to solve a basic equation. They completely zone out! Many people, upon finding out I teach algebra, tell me how they couldn't pass it in high school, but passed it later in junior college (and found it easy) once they stopped messing around. I truly believe that the culture of immaturity is perpetuated by these students when they go on to be parents. Many of them grow out of it, but we have all seen adults who still act like spoiled kids. They either make excuses for their kids or ignore their kids as they continue to worry only about their immediate needs and wants. Trust me, I have conducted enough parent conferences to know this. Skin color does not make a difference either. Experience has taught me that immaturity is a universal attribute. If we can fix immaturity, we will fix many problems, graduation just being one of them.

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