Why we need school vouchers

Why we need school vouchers

There are 8 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Mar 4, 2011, titled Why we need school vouchers. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

In Akron, Ohio, a black woman has gone to jail, branded by society as a felon, for a crime which, in its defiant nature, has some people invoking the memory of Rosa Parks.

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Dave Dunlap

Pensacola, FL

#1 Mar 5, 2011
Everything discussed here can be fixed much more easily than handing money to the churches. That is what school voucher programs are all about. Then the churches can use all of their own money to round up more folks to swindle. Unconstitutional!
Thank you

Lancaster, PA

#2 Mar 5, 2011
Thank you Mr. Bloch. The needs of children who arrive for school ready willing and able to learn, only to have their time wasted, must be recognized. It is tragic to see bright children become frustrated and disengage from their own education as they move through the YCSD.

The discussion too often breaks down into pointing fingers and laying blame. What matters is that there are students who need a different school environment NOW. They don't have years or decades for the adults to bicker and promote their personal agendas.

Vouchers can be made available for the next school year. The voucher bill is not a magic bullet to cure all the ills of our educational system but vouchers will help some children who are presently suffering through no fault of their own.

“Onward and Upward”

Since: Jun 08

York, PA

#3 Mar 6, 2011
Philip Bloch: "This is the real crime, not providing a student who wants to learn with the best educational opportunity available. He is the reason why a voucher program needs to be put in place."

No, Phil, he is the reason why we need to kick the unruly students out of class. He is the reason why teachers, with the support of their union, need to march into Harrisburg and DEMAND changes to the school code from the PDE. He is the reason why administrators who refuse to deal with problem students need to be fired. He is the reason why the parents of these unruly students need to be held accountable for the problems their children impose on you and your colleages, even if it means putting them in jail for a few weeks.

The real crime is that we waste millions of dollars to fund public schools where the "inmates are in charge of the asylum."
Raul

Phoenixville, PA

#4 Mar 6, 2011
Joel Sears wrote:
Philip Bloch: "This is the real crime, not providing a student who wants to learn with the best educational opportunity available. He is the reason why a voucher program needs to be put in place."
No, Phil, he is the reason why we need to kick the unruly students out of class. He is the reason why teachers, with the support of their union, need to march into Harrisburg and DEMAND changes to the school code from the PDE. He is the reason why administrators who refuse to deal with problem students need to be fired. He is the reason why the parents of these unruly students need to be held accountable for the problems their children impose on you and your colleages, even if it means putting them in jail for a few weeks.
The real crime is that we waste millions of dollars to fund public schools where the "inmates are in charge of the asylum."
Joel, unfortunately since NCLB has been in effect, schools are extremely reluctant to remove students from classrooms. If kids don't have a pencil or they misbehave, we have to provide them with a pencil, every day, and avoid sending them into the halls as much as possible so they won't miss content. I understand your viewpoint, and agree with it, but sad to say, that won't happen unless there's a major overhaul of current laws and funding. I highly doubt Congress will ever legislate anything to do with parenting that would help public schools. I feel your passion and appreciate what you're saying, but I don't see it ever happening.
Jojo

York, PA

#5 Mar 6, 2011
Vouchers would only make the problem worse. What we need to do is consolidate the districts into one country school system. You would have schools for those who want to get an education and whose parents will be supportive. Then you will have other schools for the non-performers; lazy, slackers, don't care attitude, but not necessarily bad kids. They will be trained to have some kind of work skills in order to gain employment. Then there will be a special school for the disruptive troublemakers. This will be a military like academy, possibly a boarding school. We can't afford to continue the way we are going, and vouchers will only cost more money that we don't have. We must strive to have children reach their full potential, recognizing that all children do not have equal potential. We must sotp the one size fits all mentality of the public school system.
Bubba

Mount Laurel, NJ

#6 Mar 7, 2011
Jojo, you got it right. The problem with our education system is the students, not the teachers. It's like a French chef trying to make a souffle out of rotten eggs.
So fix them

Lancaster, PA

#7 Mar 7, 2011
Bubba wrote:
Jojo, you got it right. The problem with our education system is the students, not the teachers. It's like a French chef trying to make a souffle out of rotten eggs.
Raleigh NC has been addressing the problem of concentrated poverty in urban schools by consolidating school districts and bussing students between the districts.

"Family income has since replaced race as the school assignment yardstick, after laws and attitudes changed about race-based policies.

The district said no school would have more than 40 percent of students so poor their lunches are subsidized, and no more than 25 percent of students reading below grade level.

Magnet schools with extra resources attract suburban kids into city schools..

A diverse mix achieved through busing prevents teachers from becoming overburdened with students requiring extra support, Grant said. Wake County has low teacher turnover and the highest number of nationally certified teachers of any urban district in the country.

The practice has also kept kids from more affluent families — including teachers’ own children — in public schools, putting Raleigh schools in sharp contrast with other urban centers."

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/08/r...
Julia

Akron, OH

#8 Mar 7, 2011
Dave Dunlap wrote:
Everything discussed here can be fixed much more easily than handing money to the churches. That is what school voucher programs are all about. Then the churches can use all of their own money to round up more folks to swindle. Unconstitutional!
Vouchers should be set up so that they send the money where the child goes regardless of the type of school that the child attends. In that case, the voucher money would not just go to churches although I am sure a significant portion of voucher money would go to church schools. It would also go to secular private schools and go to paying for the school supplies of home school children. The point then would be that the vouchers would be used to educate children. Although, quite frankly, I am against government having any involvement in education and think it would be far better to not collect taxes for education at all and let the market place educate children according to parent's wishes. No interference at all and no mandated attendance either. Just my opinion.

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