4/07: Letters to the editor

4/07: Letters to the editor

There are 159 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Apr 6, 2009, titled 4/07: Letters to the editor. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

I read with interest the article in Sunday's Sentinel about the clueless kids who are controlling air traffic at Orlando International Airport .

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Republicans Have No Honor

Palm Bay, FL

#21 Apr 7, 2009
Grandma Fudd wrote:
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You Marxists phonograph players keep bringing out that tired, outmoded, obsolete Constitutional amendment every time someone points out the futility of beating a dead horse and trying to wring more blood out of turnips.
Yeah, and the Constitution is just a piece of paper. Right George?
Republicans Have No Honor

Palm Bay, FL

#22 Apr 7, 2009
Democrats Have No Brains wrote:
Article IX, section 1, subsection a of the Florida Constitution:
The education of children is a fundamental value of the people of the State of Florida. It is, therefore, a paramount duty of the state to make adequate provision for the education of all children residing within its borders. Adequate provision shall be made by law for a uniform, efficient, safe, secure, and high quality system of affordable public schools that allows students to obtain a high quality education and for the establishment, maintenance, and operation of institutions of higher learning and other public education programs that the needs of the people may require.
You only have to change one (1) word to make tuition and fee support practical and legal. Change "Free" to "Affordable". Tax support can be readjusted to fill in the necessary safety net under poor children whose parents cannot afford the basic tuition and fees to send their kid to school. Maybe too, as others have suggested that it might weigh on would be parent's minds before they "spread their pollen" so to speak that the result of tonight's fifteen minutes will result in a lengthy commitment to responsibly caring for all the needs of the offspring we're about to start tonight? Financially, spiritually, morally ? Hey let's think this over, these things can cost money over time?
Then change it. Until then...
Republicans Have No Honor

Palm Bay, FL

#23 Apr 7, 2009
Glen wrote:
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Follow this plan and have more of you around...
Ya, that's gonna happen.
Lemme give you a fact. An Educated society is mutually beneficial to all members of society.
You cannot argue with it, deny it, or fight it.
One can only hope you did not infect your children with this nonsense.
Actually, I can argue with that. Having an uneducated society benefits Republicans. The less educated society is, the easier it is to scare. And Republicans LOVE trying to scare people...
NWGuy

Federal Way, WA

#24 Apr 7, 2009
The Forgotten Man wrote:
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States need to compete with ideas. WA State has different problems and solution then FL. The Fed shouldn't be dumping one size fits all solutions on the 50 States.
The current system is failing and there is no fix for every situation. Let the States and communities figure out what they need and learn from others solution. Release the federal money so the best solutions can be found for the different problems across the States and their communities.

There is plenty of latitude for states to be successful in education. This "federal money" thing is just a lame excuse.

Right now, the whole focus on education seems to be how to cut taxes, not how to improve education.

How about we actually start supporting improvements in education?
real world

United States

#25 Apr 7, 2009
Have you ever seen the Zogby poll of Obama voters? The majority were so uninformed it even shocked me.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm...
Republicans Have No Honor wrote:
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Actually, I can argue with that. Having an uneducated society benefits Republicans. The less educated society is, the easier it is to scare. And Republicans LOVE trying to scare people...

Since: Apr 08

Butler, New Jersey

#26 Apr 7, 2009
Margo wrote:
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Ooooh Individualism! The ultimate Evillll! Collectivism is SO much more moral and successful!
IF you want to live alone, buy a farm way out in the middle of now where. Anything else you become a USER of the collective society. The roads you drive on, the police and fire proection, the national Guard, Garbage collection, water, sewage and electricity and much, much more.
Margo

Sanford, FL

#27 Apr 7, 2009
Republicans Have No Honor wrote:
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Actually, I can argue with that. Having an uneducated society benefits Republicans. The less educated society is, the easier it is to scare. And Republicans LOVE trying to scare people...
No it benefits Democrats. That's why they want to trap children in failing public schools. That and they will not give up their power to indoctrinate.

Who was arguing in 2000 that their voter base was too dumb to figure out a butterfly ballot?
Republicans Have No Honor

Palm Bay, FL

#28 Apr 7, 2009
real world wrote:
Have you ever seen the Zogby poll of Obama voters? The majority were so uninformed it even shocked me.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm...
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I've seen poll of Faux News viewers, aka McCain voters...
Republicans Have No Honor

Palm Bay, FL

#29 Apr 7, 2009
Margo wrote:
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No it benefits Democrats. That's why they want to trap children in failing public schools. That and they will not give up their power to indoctrinate.
Who was arguing in 2000 that their voter base was too dumb to figure out a butterfly ballot?
YOU couldn't figure out a butterfly ballot...
Democrats Have No Brains

Oviedo, FL

#30 Apr 7, 2009
Glen wrote:
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Follow this plan and have more of you around...
Ya, that's gonna happen.
Lemme give you a fact. An Educated society is mutually beneficial to all members of society.
You cannot argue with it, deny it, or fight it.
One can only hope you did not infect your children with this nonsense.
Where do you see in anything anyone of us promoting the idea that parents of children currently enrolled in public school should be bearing the burden of paying for said school according to their ability to pay is ging to deny anyone of an education? I've seen this recurring comeback to the posts but never has anyone promoted for a second denying access to an education to anyone? We all are saying only that taxes no longer can foot the entire bill. Schools have grown too big, too expensive, too complex to be entirely supported by property taxes and other taxes. Parents who can afford a tuition are going to have to pay one along with other administrative overhead fees and supplies etc. fees and other fees if they want their little wolves to be immersed in music, sports, arts, etc. that are outside of the normal curriculum. Taxes will always still havbe to be collected to provide the ever important safety net for kids whos parents cannot afford the tuition and other fees afrementioned. Isnt this clear enough to you idiots who keep inferring from these posts that those of us who ask only that parents who can pay, do pay, have some insidious desire to keep kids from obtaining a basic education ? Jesus Christ! I fear for the sanity of this Nation when I read comments that reflect people cannot read and comprehend simple Engilish and can somehow read into a post things that aren't there. We're not talking about not educationg people just how to pay for it.
Democrats Have No Brains

Oviedo, FL

#31 Apr 7, 2009
And I apologize for omitting to run spell check on my last post.
real world

United States

#32 Apr 7, 2009
How's about a link to a well known polling establishment with some real results like i provided, old buddy... or are you just flapping your gums as usual? I know you believe in Hope and Change and Unicorns and Rainbows and all that, but data is data.
Republicans Have No Honor wrote:
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I've seen poll of Faux News viewers, aka McCain voters...
change agent

Leesburg, FL

#33 Apr 7, 2009
Republicans Have No Honor wrote:
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Article IX, section 1, subsection a of the Florida Constitution:
The education of children is a fundamental value of the people of the State of Florida. It is, therefore, a paramount duty of the state to make adequate provision for the education of all children residing within its borders. Adequate provision shall be made by law for a uniform, efficient, safe, secure, and high quality system of free public schools that allows students to obtain a high quality education and for the establishment, maintenance, and operation of institutions of higher learning and other public education programs that the needs of the people may require.
the point being made by the poster is that the $$ earmarked per child in public school should follow the child, not the other way around. even in public school, you are assigned a school to attend in your area. you don't get to decide where your kid goes and apply there on a first come first serve basis. magnet programs are a huge step in the right direction. however, in germany, and i believe other european nations as well, schoool funding follows the child... the child doesn't follow the funding to a pre-assigned school that may not offer the same quality as a school across town. acceptance on a first come first serve basis will create the type of healthy competition that will raise standards for all.
change agent

Leesburg, FL

#34 Apr 7, 2009
Republicans Have No Honor wrote:
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Actually, I can argue with that. Having an uneducated society benefits Republicans. The less educated society is, the easier it is to scare. And Republicans LOVE trying to scare people...
quite frankly... republicans want to get in your bedroom while democrats want to get into your bank account. republicans want to scare you while democrats want to control you. i say boot them all out and get some real constitutionalists in office - libertarians!
Republicans Have No Honor

Palm Bay, FL

#35 Apr 7, 2009
real world wrote:
How's about a link to a well known polling establishment with some real results like i provided, old buddy... or are you just flapping your gums as usual? I know you believe in Hope and Change and Unicorns and Rainbows and all that, but data is data.
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ROLFMAO!!

I may flap my gums, but they flap with TRUTH.

http://people-press.org/report/319/public-kno...

Look at the chart, Faux News viewers rank next to last in knowledge level old buddy...
Republicans Have No Honor

Palm Bay, FL

#36 Apr 7, 2009
change agent wrote:
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the point being made by the poster is that the $$ earmarked per child in public school should follow the child, not the other way around. even in public school, you are assigned a school to attend in your area. you don't get to decide where your kid goes and apply there on a first come first serve basis. magnet programs are a huge step in the right direction. however, in germany, and i believe other european nations as well, schoool funding follows the child... the child doesn't follow the funding to a pre-assigned school that may not offer the same quality as a school across town. acceptance on a first come first serve basis will create the type of healthy competition that will raise standards for all.
Perhaps you missed MY point: you want to change funding as the person I responded to suggested then change the state Constitution first because what it suggested runs counter to the Constitution as it reads today.
change agent

Leesburg, FL

#37 Apr 7, 2009
Grandma Fudd wrote:
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You Marxists phonograph players keep bringing out that tired, outmoded, obsolete Constitutional amendment every time someone points out the futility of beating a dead horse and trying to wring more blood out of turnips.
Face it, taxes aren't sufficient anymore for EVERYONE to get a teat at the welfare sow's belly. It is high time we recognize this, overturn the amendement, get on the path to funding our schools by tuition and fees paid by those USING THE SCHOOLS and let grandma and grandpa continue to be assessed a small amount so we don't drop truly poor kids out of the safety net. I agree one hundred percent we don't want a bunch of Arab rag head ignoramuses running around firing AK-47's in the air because they have no jobs to go to but at the same time, we have to stop taxing seniors out of their homes so we can provide a free lunch to kids of parents who can buy Skidoos, Mercedes 60 inch plasma TVs and go to the Riviera every Summer.
this is the florida constitution, not the federal constitution. the constitution of the US does not establish a right to education, but it does not prohibit the states from granting a right to education.
change agent

Leesburg, FL

#38 Apr 7, 2009
Republicans Have No Honor wrote:
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Perhaps you missed MY point: you want to change funding as the person I responded to suggested then change the state Constitution first because what it suggested runs counter to the Constitution as it reads today.
i'm talking about funding following the child to whichever public school they wish to attend. i don't think the state's consitution prohibits that. i am not suggesting that public $$ follow a child to a private school.

although, that is happening now with voluntary pre-k. there are church run pre-schools who get florida money to run pre-k on behalf of the state.
change agent

Leesburg, FL

#39 Apr 7, 2009
Republicans Have No Honor wrote:
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ROLFMAO!!
I may flap my gums, but they flap with TRUTH.
http://people-press.org/report/319/public-kno...
Look at the chart, Faux News viewers rank next to last in knowledge level old buddy...
actually, most of the numbers fall witin the margin of error - in other words, it doesnt matter where the public gets their news... they''re still clueless - hence the other argument about public schools - do they teach social studies anymore? government? who teaches about the roles within the three branches of the federal government? who teaches classic vs keynsian economics anymore?

the latest on brad and angie is what passes for "current events" class these days.
Michael Grant

Mount Dora, FL

#40 Apr 7, 2009
Grandma Fudd wrote:
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Face it, taxes aren't sufficient anymore for EVERYONE to get a teat at the welfare sow's belly. It is high time we recognize this, overturn the amendement, get on the path to funding our schools by tuition and fees paid by those ...
I just wanted to get this straight.

You *ARE* equating education with welfare?

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