Letters to the editor

Letters to the editor

There are 57 comments on the Carlsbad Current-Argus story from Sep 9, 2008, titled Letters to the editor. In it, Carlsbad Current-Argus reports that:

'Free' education Editor: Let me warn parents of small children: start saving now for your child's "free public education." I have three children attending Carlsbad public schools.

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cdo

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Sep 10, 2008
School System...article today
I can see what this parent is explaining is so true for carlsbad schools. I can see alot
of this is true because my grandson started kinder. and enters 1st grd next year and the list for supplies was surprising. It had everything from kleenix
to wipes to crayons etc...I have always thought the schools should supply these items. I can see later if the child plays an instrument in higher grades and the parent buys the instrument because, i did do this.
PE clothes yes but all this other stuff forget it,the schools make enough money instead of putting on us. Thats just so the school dont have to buy it and is it really used for your child , I wonder?
Bump a Frog

Carlsbad, NM

#2 Sep 10, 2008
Why don`t the school system just buy bunkbeds and you pick your kids up on Friday afternoon and have them bussed back Monday morning so you don`t have to put up with your rugrats? If I recalled, the lady was compaining because she spent over $200 already for her kids supplies, which she included the cost of food. Now we have to feed your freaking kids! Your parents didn`t bitch when they purchased crayons, klennex and paper for you. Be responsible you parents, this is ridicuous. I bet 5 bucks your all on welfare!

“The truth is always good”

Since: Aug 08

Carlsbad, NM

#3 Sep 10, 2008
Bump a Frog wrote:
Why don`t the school system just buy bunkbeds and you pick your kids up on Friday afternoon and have them bussed back Monday morning so you don`t have to put up with your rugrats? If I recalled, the lady was compaining because she spent over $200 already for her kids supplies, which she included the cost of food. Now we have to feed your freaking kids! Your parents didn`t bitch when they purchased crayons, klennex and paper for you. Be responsible you parents, this is ridicuous. I bet 5 bucks your all on welfare!
If she was on welfare her kids would get free lunches unless of course her kiddos are in preschool or kindergarten where they sometimes ask for snacks.

From what I read she was also complaining about band being a mandatory elective in middle school saying that kids are required to take band and buy instruments that range from 200-$800.00. I have never heard of this, where a parent is required to buy a high dollar instrument for a "required" elective.

What this mother doesn't take into account the high cost of supplies and anything else you go to the store to buy. My answer to her is that nothing in life is "free" and for her to expect the state to buy snot rags for her kids and crayons and so forth, ridiculous. I do not agree with the school making kids buy instruments for an elective they may choose not to pursue. I'm sure if we call the schools they will have a different story on how they probably have loaner instruments for the mandatory band classes.
patio

Levelland, TX

#4 Sep 10, 2008
I agree with this mother that Mandatory purchasing of an elective's instrument is more than ridiculous. When I went to school the system had bankd equipment for the beginning students.(Not here in Carlsbad) Then the next year if you were going to take band or orchestra you could purchase the instrument from the local music store...which doesn't exist anymore.

Things like this happen at the school board meetings, when parents don't show up to voice their opinions. We can all sit hear and complain, but if we don't go to these meetings, be it the school board, or PTA meetings, we should not complain. We should find out when this came into affect and what it would take to get it changed.
amomfirst

Lubbock, TX

#5 Sep 10, 2008
To those who think only parents on welfare think the prices of school equipment is out of sight I have this to say I am a single working mother with two children in school and there is many times I worry about school lunches, band fees,lab fees etc.
What is wrong with a parent sharing concerns and you would think some people would be more adult about their opinions. The point is not papers and pens but REQUIRED equipment only use in the one class. For all you parents who need band supplies there is now a music store in carlsbad on the corner of lea and mesa. And to Bump the Frog I bet you dont even have kids because it seems you have not even grown up yourself.
caring parent

Lubbock, TX

#6 Sep 10, 2008
I understand completely what she is saying. I think it is ridiculous that you are required to purchase equipment that is so expensive. I am a Registered Nurse and make decent money, and it is uncalled for for the school system to make a class mandatory that requires such expensive equipment. If the child chooses to take the class out of interest, then spending the money is a whole different story, but for the school to require is another. And nobody is bitching about buying crayons, kleenex or paper, this is a high dollar calculator that she mentioned. When I was in school and the course required that type of calculator, the school provided them while we were in class, and then we returned them. I think that everybody that has children is feeling the same way, but she just had the balls to express her concern. My child is in the 3rd grade, and how ridiculous that her school supply list required a jump drive! And why do we as parents have to supply the supplies for the teacher, such as dry erase markers, copy paper, & red grading pens! Why count the school district supply these!! What are our tax dollare going for then??!!
Pablo

Broken Arrow, OK

#7 Sep 10, 2008
For those parents who are having a hard time finding musical instruments for students in the Carlsbad area , You need to come and see us at Mental Note Studios. We have helped many people including those who could not afford instruments. Remember this is about the needs of the child and they will come first.

“The truth is always good”

Since: Aug 08

Carlsbad, NM

#8 Sep 10, 2008
Pablo wrote:
For those parents who are having a hard time finding musical instruments for students in the Carlsbad area , You need to come and see us at Mental Note Studios. We have helped many people including those who could not afford instruments. Remember this is about the needs of the child and they will come first.
Wow, that is one of the nicest things I have ever read on these forums.:) Way to Go Mental Note Studios, it takes a community sometimes to raise a child. Thanks!!!!!!!!
ayoungmother

United States

#9 Sep 10, 2008
i myself have two kids, one who is attending college for her third year and another in middle school. let me set the record straight. before the school year of 2007-2008 finished the students are asked to fill out their forms in which they choose their classes. my child ordered her choices 1-3. the one being her first choice and so on. she she was given band, in which she could have switched to choir. well in my situation she flat out said neither, i then told her it was either or the other it did not matter whether she wanted to or not. i feel if we allow our kids to continue to make their own choices as some do then they will start controlling the school system too. well my chiid was told one or the other by me and i made it clear to her she was not getting out of it. well she ended up staying in band. first off, an instrument is not choosen for the student, the child says which he/she would like to play and they are then asked to go early in the morning and practice one day or once after school. well, after two weeks they have auditions and if they have done what they are told and have gone and practiced, then if their audition is fine, which they have their music note paper with them doing this then they will play that instrument. now if the student at least pulls their weight in their instrument choice and not expect to be given special attention with no effort, then the student is given the opportunity to play their instrument of choice anyway. as far as the students having an instrument choosen for them, that is not true. there are flyers that went out stating the instrument drive that was held at the high school band room and a list of instruments was given as well as their approximate cost per month. my child's will run around 27.00 a month, which is not bad this is beginner band and no she does not have to stay in baND UNLESS she decides to. and if they are really into being and staying in band through out high school then you would buy the instrument, you are not forced to. but if they are sticking to it then the best choice is to buy it and not keep paying rental price and throwing away your money. as far as buying school supplies that has never changed, sure nothing is free. as far as the parent katrina who bought an 85.00 graph calculator i have and had never bought a calculator thAT WAS MORE THAN 20.00 FOR HER CLASSES, SHE MUST NOT KNOW HOW TO SHOP FOR SCHOOL SUPPLIES EVEN NOW THAT MY KID IS IN COLLEGE HAS SHE HAD AN EXPENSIVE NEEDED ITEM FOR HER CLASS. AS FAR as red grading pens, erase markers, no the teacher does not use them. the erase markers are used by the students to work problems out on their dry erase board, and the pens the students use it to circle their wrong answers. come on parents get involved with your child's school and class instead of putting down the school system. maybe a visit to their school will teach you a few lessons and know what is going on, instead of speculating.

Since: Sep 08

Carlsbad, NM

#10 Sep 10, 2008
Pablo wrote:
For those parents who are having a hard time finding musical instruments for students in the Carlsbad area , You need to come and see us at Mental Note Studios. We have helped many people including those who could not afford instruments. Remember this is about the needs of the child and they will come first.
That is great. I keep hearing good things about you guys. Maybe there could be some kind of music rental or exchange program you could start?????

I don't have one ounce of music ability in my body, but I did manage to play clarinet for 7 years so even those with no talent can learn something and I even got top rates in high school contests so pretty cool really, but I was thrilled to give it up in college!
ayoungmother

United States

#11 Sep 10, 2008
some of these parents spend more money on booze and cigarrettes and other things then bitch about having to supply their children's needs. if you do not want the responsibility then why have them.
ayoungmother

United States

#12 Sep 10, 2008
one more thing these school supplies that are requested from grade school to college all depends on the classes your child chooses too as they get older. headstart to kindergarden adds up to about 10.00, grade school is about 20.00, high school about 40.00 without all the extras and fancy pens, tablets, ect. i know i am a parent who has put a child all up through college with no complaints and also have a middle school child and i am proud to say i am not bitching.
Bump a Frog

Carlsbad, NM

#13 Sep 10, 2008
amomfirst wrote:
To those who think only parents on welfare think the prices of school equipment is out of sight I have this to say I am a single working mother with two children in school and there is many times I worry about school lunches, band fees,lab fees etc.
What is wrong with a parent sharing concerns and you would think some people would be more adult about their opinions. The point is not papers and pens but REQUIRED equipment only use in the one class. For all you parents who need band supplies there is now a music store in carlsbad on the corner of lea and mesa. And to Bump the Frog I bet you dont even have kids because it seems you have not even grown up yourself.
I have 2 kids, grown now. If they needed something in school, I worked to make it available for them. I didn`t sit around asking for someone to hand it to me like a bunch of you lazy assh^*es do. And BTW, I`m fixing to retire, i have grown up. I`ve seen more shit in one month than you have in your lifetime.

“Wanna Play?”

Since: Sep 08

Carlsbad, NM

#14 Sep 10, 2008
At PR Levya only, students are given the choice between band, chorus, or two PE classes. If PE, or chorus are full, the child is forced into band. And no, some students are not given the choice of their instrument. If that is the case, most kids would play the cheapest instrument.....a one sided band does not sound very well. The kids are not given a choice, it's either/or, no exceptions.
I don't think the letter to the editor was "bitching", she was just wondering why do parents have to foot the bill for a public education. If a class has a mandatory piece of equipment needed in order to pass that class, it should be provided by the school. Of course nothing in life is free, and I don't think she was asking for a "handout", she was just wanting answers.
You said that you pay $27/mo. for your child's instrument....why?
You also feel as though $27/mo isn't bad. If they choose not to stay in band, you've only lost a little bit of money right? Well, according to the letter, it is required for 5-6 grades. That equals to approximately 20 months (august-may X 2yrs) that equals $540. This is for the instrument only. That does not include acessories (reeds, band shoes, etc). To some families that is a lot of money, espically if the kid doesn't like band and doesn't continue on. Personally, that is just wasted time and money.
ayoung mom

United States

#15 Sep 11, 2008
Bulldogbaby wrote:
At PR Levya only, students are given the choice between band, chorus, or two PE classes. If PE, or chorus are full, the child is forced into band. And no, some students are not given the choice of their instrument. If that is the case, most kids would play the cheapest instrument.....a one sided band does not sound very well. The kids are not given a choice, it's either/or, no exceptions.
I don't think the letter to the editor was "bitching", she was just wondering why do parents have to foot the bill for a public education. If a class has a mandatory piece of equipment needed in order to pass that class, it should be provided by the school. Of course nothing in life is free, and I don't think she was asking for a "handout", she was just wanting answers.
You said that you pay $27/mo. for your child's instrument....why?
You also feel as though $27/mo isn't bad. If they choose not to stay in band, you've only lost a little bit of money right? Well, according to the letter, it is required for 5-6 grades. That equals to approximately 20 months (august-may X 2yrs) that equals $540. This is for the instrument only. That does not include acessories (reeds, band shoes, etc). To some families that is a lot of money, espically if the kid doesn't like band and doesn't continue on. Personally, that is just wasted time and money.
well parents will spend the extras if their child is really wanting to stay in band. now if your child decides not to then return the instrument. in beginner band the child does not need a uniform, shoes, etc. beginner band allows the child to get a feel of the class it self and they know if this is a class they want to stay in all the way through high school. so are you saying lunch should be provided free of charege? i will tell you there are alot of parents who abuse the income level scale and lie to recieve free lunches, but they do not get caught. and if you teach your child to not like something rather than choose they will grow up to not liking this job, boss, job environment, and go on complaining. children are taught choices among other things as small children to adolescents, in order to become people of society there is always a choice and if the parent is teaching them to complain and complain that makes this world a harder place to live in. teach your child that life has choices and to get by they need to want to give a little to recive. by giving to education you recieve what you call a high school diploma or a college degree, which i say is a wonderful pay off.
just wondering

Lubbock, TX

#16 Sep 11, 2008
How would you all feel if someone in your cities walked into your life and ordered you to work as trash collectors? I thought our laws are in place to allow people to express their opinions. I for one am glad we have a place to share our thoughts and concerns. By the way I beleave one should not form thoughts on someone else untill they have been in their shoes or at least have a one on one. Get real name calling is below any true adult. By the way Mental Notes does have a rental program call and see what they have.
ayoung mom

United States

#17 Sep 11, 2008
just wondering wrote:
How would you all feel if someone in your cities walked into your life and ordered you to work as trash collectors? I thought our laws are in place to allow people to express their opinions. I for one am glad we have a place to share our thoughts and concerns. By the way I beleave one should not form thoughts on someone else untill they have been in their shoes or at least have a one on one. Get real name calling is below any true adult. By the way Mental Notes does have a rental program call and see what they have.
who is name calling? yes express their opinions,but when parents want the school system to start helping to support their children, that is not good. you have your kids and do what you do to raise them and become mature adults and also teach them the ropes of life and not teach them to complain.
ayoung mom

United States

#18 Sep 11, 2008
i am not beneath my children, i am above and i feel i can express my opinion, because my husband and i are putting one through college already, and it has been done with no support from anybody especially the school system. my kids will be outstanding members of society and will know how to go through life without handouts and will pass this on to their children and so on.
ayoung mom

United States

#19 Sep 11, 2008
since my last post is not up yet, well to katrina armedariz, cut down on your tanning visits, cigarrettes, booze, and all your other habits and put it to your children's education and sports. maybe if you had a husband who shared expenses with you would not be a disgruntled and angry mother and not be angry about the expense of helping make your children good members of society and to better themselves. kids do what they learn and yours will follow in your footsteps which is not good. your husband is a custodian a the high school think about the way he may feel and your children.
ayoung mom

United States

#20 Sep 11, 2008
katrina your kid's do not even take band so you know nothing about the program and or purchase of instruments. what you say is not true, it is what you have heard or been told by others like you who are tight with their money.

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