Homeschooling a popular option for many in Pulaski

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For nearly 200 children here in Pulaski County, a normal school day is a bit unconventonal.
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Dec 19, 2006
 
What does this tell you about the local school system? I am certain that if more people could afford it, they would send thier children to private schools.Also,having been better educated locally they would home school as well. Another break down in this pitiful infrastructure I suppose.
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Dec 20, 2006
 
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What does this tell you about the local school system? I am certain that if more people could afford it, they would send thier children to private schools.Also,having been better educated locally they would home school as well. Another break down in this pitiful infrastructure I suppose.
Schools suck! private and public. Little by little people are beginning to get the hint. It is difficult, because we were all put through public schools and we know no different. Most still operate under the false assumption that we acquired our intellectual development in public schools, most are unaware of the retarding effect that the schools have had on our populace, but there sure are a lot of dumb things going on in the world today. mark
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Nov 24, 2009
 
I know this is an old post but I'm new to these local forums and find myself compelled to comment on some of the more stupid remarks.
What does "home schooling" as a popular choice tell us? That you have a bunch of backward, self-rightous simpletons that would rather screech about a fantastical made-up monster and do social & educational damage to their own children than to actually become "involved" in the community and school system. Which by the way is EXACTLY what the republican party has wetdreams about nightly. DUMB 'EM DOWN! They're much easier to "control"(manipulate ) when education is low and false idiology is high.
And the other reason? Haters. Plain and simple, they are racist. I've known of several families over the years that have taken their children out of Meridian to homeschool them or send them to Century, the "christian" schools, moved to Cape, etc. In every case that I've personnally heard about, the reason was "Too many n*****s." PURE HATRED & RACISM. Many of these situations played out bitterly. Several of these children ended up in trouble with the law. A few ended up pregnant. And even more suprisingly, I'm sure, for some of the parents, a few of these children/teens ended up dating people of color in the end anyway.

I'm not saying that parents shouldn't do what they feel is "best" for their children. What I am saying is that parents should first "CHECK" themselves and the real reasons they are making a life changing decision in their childs life.

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Nov 26, 2009
 
GzLuEzUH8rz wrote:
I know this is an old post but I'm new to these local forums and find myself compelled to comment on some of the more stupid remarks.
What does "home schooling" as a popular choice tell us? That you have a bunch of backward, self-rightous simpletons that would rather screech about a fantastical made-up monster and do social & educational damage to their own children than to actually become "involved" in the community and school system. Which by the way is EXACTLY what the republican party has wetdreams about nightly. DUMB 'EM DOWN! They're much easier to "control"(manipulate ) when education is low and false idiology is high.
And the other reason? Haters. Plain and simple, they are racist. I've known of several families over the years that have taken their children out of Meridian to homeschool them or send them to Century, the "christian" schools, moved to Cape, etc. In every case that I've personnally heard about, the reason was "Too many n*****s." PURE HATRED & RACISM. Many of these situations played out bitterly. Several of these children ended up in trouble with the law. A few ended up pregnant. And even more suprisingly, I'm sure, for some of the parents, a few of these children/teens ended up dating people of color in the end anyway.
I'm not saying that parents shouldn't do what they feel is "best" for their children. What I am saying is that parents should first "CHECK" themselves and the real reasons they are making a life changing decision in their childs life.
I'm with you. I've got other reasons against home schooling but for now, let's see how yours resonate. Although, given that it's been three years since anyone else had posted, we'll probably be waiting a long time.

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Nov 13, 2010
 
If parents want to homeschool then I don't think there is anything wrong with it. I personally never thought I would but was faced with that or my child not getting taught I did what I had to at the time. My child is disabled and has learning difficulties when it comes to book learning. Well, a new teacher came in and for two years my child lost the fire in her to accomplish things she initially struggled with. I finally found out why...this new teachers idea is that if something is hard then we shouldn't make a disabled child work at it. Not only did she have the nerve to tell me this but she would actually tell the kids if something was hard that they didn't have to do it. I fought that school and fought it to get something done and all that happened was the principle at that time who always said I had her support wanted to make it out as though problems at home were the cause of her issues. WHATEVER...the ONLY problem we had was STRICKLY school related.

So, when I finally seen I wasn't going to get anywhere I told them I was going to start homeschooling her starting that Fall (this meeting was like a month before the end of that school year). They kept saying I wouldn't and she'd be right back that fall, however they found that I meant it and for 2 years I homeschooled my child and she did well. She's never totally got back the fire she use to have but there is that flicker. After two years, that teacher was out and there was a new principle and I met with them and explained where I stood on things. I did put her back in public school and was happy I could simply because being an only child I didn't like that she didn't get to socialize with other kids, but I did what had to be done at the time.

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Nov 13, 2010
 
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I know this is an old post but I'm new to these local forums and find myself compelled to comment on some of the more stupid remarks.
What does "home schooling" as a popular choice tell us? That you have a bunch of backward, self-rightous simpletons that would rather screech about a fantastical made-up monster and do social & educational damage to their own children than to actually become "involved" in the community and school system. And the other reason? Haters. Plain and simple, they are racist. I've known of several families over the years that have taken their children out of Meridian to homeschool them or send them to Century, the "christian" schools, moved to Cape, etc.
In some cases homeschooling your child is for very good reasons (read my recent post). But I agree...I know in some cases people pull their kids out because of raceism and that's sad. I even know of a situation of someone who REALLY needs to move down here. They prefer living outside their means to be in an all white school district than to move down here to a place that would have been rent free instead of $700 a month, but wouldn't because they didn't want their child around black people. Needless to say my views of this person changed a lot. I do know that some families did send their child else where simply because they felt they could get a better education somewhere else.
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Momma92 I applaud and admire your perseverance, dedication and taking the responsibility as a parent to heart. If half the parents took that same approach to parenting then problems within out schools could be managed much better. Simply, action. Talk is just a lot of hot air, good for balloons, not so good for solving problems. Taking concerns, problems to teachers/principles could be the answer or could be just the first steps. Not solved? Talk to other parents, gather info on related problems/concerns. Take to the board, we elect them, they work for us. Still not satisfied, the state board is just a call away. Still unsatisfactory results? Commit to take it all the way...parents unite then get a class action going and the media involved. They will listen to concerns then.
I made many mistakes as a parent while my children were growing up. I learned from most of those mistakes. Now as a grandparent I am better prepared to help my children be better parents, that's my saving grace.

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Nov 14, 2010
 
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Momma92 I applaud and admire your perseverance, dedication and taking the responsibility as a parent to heart. If half the parents took that same approach to parenting then problems within out schools could be managed much better. Simply, action. Talk is just a lot of hot air, good for balloons, not so good for solving problems. Taking concerns, problems to teachers/principles could be the answer or could be just the first steps.
Thank you! It can be such a headache sometimes with all you have to go through but when it's your child you'll put up with daily migraines if it gets what your child needs and deserves. I have MANY friends who are teachers and they are so baffled as to how little parents take part in their child(ren) education. They have a lot of parents who never even come for parent teacher conferences...I do mean they never see or talk with them through the year. I have one friend who is a 2nd grade teacher at another school and she was saying how one student who was struggling but wanted to get pass the problems and do better had parents who just didn't care. She tried calling, sending letters...you name it. One day the child came to school and told her that her parents didn't care to talk to her teacher and the the problem was HER problem not theirs because she was the one getting paid to teach their child. Talk about sad!

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Nov 15, 2010
 
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In some cases homeschooling your child is for very good reasons (read my recent post). But I agree...I know in some cases people pull their kids out because of raceism and that's sad...
Racism is just one reason, one of the most frustrating and selfish reasons many HS their children is because the parents disagree with the curriculum. Not because the curriculum is out-dated or incorrect, but because the parents have "personal issues" with what the school system is teaching; with evolution and sex-ed being two of the most common subjects with which these people disagree.

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Racism is just one reason, one of the most frustrating and selfish reasons many HS their children is because the parents disagree with the curriculum. Not because the curriculum is out-dated or incorrect, but because the parents have "personal issues" with what the school system is teaching; with evolution and sex-ed being two of the most common subjects with which these people disagree.
Thing is when it comes to something like sex-ed or evolution it shouldn't just be something they learn about in school. If it is teaching against your religion then as a parent and for that child they should have the right to be exempt from that sort of class or be offered something that teaches on their belief...even if it means doing those classes at home. I don't think a child should be made to learn something that goes against their beliefs. I can't see taking your child out of public school all together because of just a couple of classes like that...I mean, the main reason to go to school is to learn to read, write, and math.

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Nov 16, 2010
 
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Thing is when it comes to something like sex-ed or evolution it shouldn't just be something they learn about in school. If it is teaching against your religion then as a parent and for that child they should have the right to be exempt from that sort of class or be offered something that teaches on their belief...even if it means doing those classes at home. I don't think a child should be made to learn something that goes against their beliefs. I can't see taking your child out of public school all together because of just a couple of classes like that...I mean, the main reason to go to school is to learn to read, write, and math.
No, the reason to go to school is to LEARN, period. And shouldn't children be given the choice of what they're going to Believe by being presented both sides of an argument? By limiting their exposure, you're creating a forced ignorance.
Given your argument, children shouldn't be forced to take any class that their parents would find "offensive" or "out of bounds". So are you saying that they can have their kids opt-out of History? Science? Language Arts? Gym? Where does it stop?

No, just because you've chosen to disregard or ignore a subject like Sex Ed or Evolution, doesn't give you the right to force the same on your children. If you feel that Evolution is bunk (which would make you wrong) then it's up to you to make sure you express this to your children. But you should also be adult enough to accept that they just might tell you, "No, Mom and Dad, you're wrong, and I just can't accept what you're saying."

And personally:
1. I believe that kids should learn Sex Ed in school because frankly, I don't trust parents to actually do an effective job. I know I didn't want to hear it from my folks, and I'll bet dollars to donuts my kids won't want to hear it from me. I also don't trust that parents would give the proper education, relegating the conversation to simply saying, "Now dear, simply keep your legs crossed and you'll be just fine."
2. If you don't accept Evolution yet, it's time to get with the program.

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No, the reason to go to school is to LEARN, period. And shouldn't children be given the choice of what they're going to Believe by being presented both sides of an argument? By limiting their exposure, you're creating a forced ignorance.
Given your argument, children shouldn't be forced to take any class that their parents would find "offensive" or "out of bounds". So are you saying that they can have their kids opt-out of History? Science? Language Arts? Gym? Where does it stop?
No, just because you've chosen to disregard or ignore a subject like Sex Ed or Evolution, doesn't give you the right to force the same on your children. If you feel that Evolution is bunk (which would make you wrong) then it's up to you to make sure you express this to your children. But you should also be adult enough to accept that they just might tell you, "No, Mom and Dad, you're wrong, and I just can't accept what you're saying."
And personally:
1. I believe that kids should learn Sex Ed in school because frankly, I don't trust parents to actually do an effective job. I know I didn't want to hear it from my folks, and I'll bet dollars to donuts my kids won't want to hear it from me. I also don't trust that parents would give the proper education, relegating the conversation to simply saying, "Now dear, simply keep your legs crossed and you'll be just fine."
2. If you don't accept Evolution yet, it's time to get with the program.
Well...this is just where we will have to agree that we disagree because my beliefs will not change. Just because I don't agree with your beliefs or the lack thereof doesn't make me ignorant. You shouldn't bottle all parents up into the same group because there are parents that do talk a lot to their kids about sex and explains things to them. I do understand that sadly some parents don't say anything at all and the sex talk only comes from school. I myself as well as other parents I know do more than simply tell their kids to keep leggs closed. Some tell their child that but tell them that if they EVER chose to do it anyway just to make sure they are safe. I know one parent who explained in details the pain of giving birth to her daughter and told her daughter that she will continue to go to school AND would get a job to help raise her child if she became pregnant. Not all parents sugar coat it.

As far as evolution...sorry but NOT a program I will ever be getting with.

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Nov 17, 2010
 
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Well...this is just where we will have to agree that we disagree because my beliefs will not change. Just because I don't agree with your beliefs or the lack thereof doesn't make me ignorant.
We're not talking about YOU or ME, we're talking about children, and providing them a CHOICE in what they're going to Believe. To force someone to hear only one side of an argument is forcing ignorance on that person. To impose your Belief structure on your children and deny them the opportunity to hear other viewpoints and allow them to make up their own minds is selfish and nearsighted.
Or are you afraid that if they DID hear the other side, that they'd completely abandon YOUR Beliefs and develop minds of their own?
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You shouldn't bottle all parents up into the same group because there are parents that do talk a lot to their kids about sex and explains things to them. I do understand that sadly some parents don't say anything at all and the sex talk only comes from school.
But it's not just about who does or doesn't do something, it's about providing the OPTION.
Look, some kids don't want to talk to their parents about sex. The simply fact that they exist is quite enough proof that Mom and Dad have actually had sex for most children. Talking about sex with your parents is embarassing for most, if not all, kids. Right or wrong, that's the fact of the matter. So provide them a place to learn about sex and reproduction without the embarassment.
And the fact remains that if you're offering it as part of a Health class, then you're practically guaranteed that all of the kids will at least have heard about birth control and the proper way to use it.
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I myself as well as other parents I know do more than simply tell their kids to keep leggs closed. Some tell their child that but tell them that if they EVER chose to do it anyway just to make sure they are safe.
And what does "...make sure they are safe..." actually mean? If a parent is too rigid or embarassed to actually discuss sex, contraception and pregnancy with their child and just passes it off with a simple, "Just make sure you're safe," how in the world is the child to learn about how NOT to get pregnant?
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I know one parent who explained in details the pain of giving birth to her daughter and told her daughter that she will continue to go to school AND would get a job to help raise her child if she became pregnant. Not all parents sugar coat it.
That's great, but I'm not concerned with those parents, I'm concerned about those who DO sugar coat or ignore the topic altogether.

And it doesn't matter, the point is that you can't pull a kid out of school just because you disagree with the curriculum.
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As far as evolution...sorry but NOT a program I will ever be getting with.
Once again, this isn't about YOU, it's about the kids. You do understand that your children don't necessarily have to Believe the same things that you do, right? And if so, it doesn't make them wrong or you a bad parent. It just makes them different from you.

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Nov 18, 2010
 
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Once again, this isn't about YOU, it's about the kids. You do understand that your children don't necessarily have to Believe the same things that you do, right? And if so, it doesn't make them wrong or you a bad parent. It just makes them different from you.
You know what...you may think you always know what you are talking about and that what you believe is the truth but there will be a day that the real Truth will be seen by all. In most situations rather it be religion or anything else, as parents we teach our kids in the way we believe to be right and hope they continue with that belief when they grow up and become adults! A lot do...but some, once adults and are out in the world, do learn of other beliefs and chose those beliefs. I am living proof of that! I grew up in church, but in my 20s I ended up going down a different belief path. It was because of my daughter, who was 12 at the time, that I came back to Christ and for the first time actually truly developed a relationship with Him...SHE, my 12 year old daughter, witnessed to me!!! So I never forced anything on her! She had only been to church a few times during her younger years...SHE chose to get to know Christ. Now that I am born again, if I ever had another child, I would teach my child that there is only one true way and would pray that he or she would continue with that belief in adulthood.

It is about our kids and part of that is teaching them what we believe is the truth. I've known many people who were raised as atheist, pagan or wiccan and as adults they came to know Christ, however I've known just the opposite to happen. So, we do what we believe is right...period! You don't agree with me.....but I don't agree with you. Those are facts that we can both agree on.

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Nov 19, 2010
 
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You know what...you may think you always know what you are talking about and that what you believe is the truth but there will be a day that the real Truth will be seen by all. In most situations rather it be religion or anything else, as parents we teach our kids in the way we believe to be right and hope they continue with that belief when they grow up and become adults! A lot do...but some, once adults and are out in the world, do learn of other beliefs and chose those beliefs. I am living proof of that! I grew up in church, but in my 20s I ended up going down a different belief path. It was because of my daughter, who was 12 at the time, that I came back to Christ and for the first time actually truly developed a relationship with Him...SHE, my 12 year old daughter, witnessed to me!!! So I never forced anything on her! She had only been to church a few times during her younger years...SHE chose to get to know Christ. Now that I am born again, if I ever had another child, I would teach my child that there is only one true way and would pray that he or she would continue with that belief in adulthood.
It is about our kids and part of that is teaching them what we believe is the truth. I've known many people who were raised as atheist, pagan or wiccan and as adults they came to know Christ, however I've known just the opposite to happen. So, we do what we believe is right...period! You don't agree with me.....but I don't agree with you. Those are facts that we can both agree on.
You have somehow managed to take this WAY off topic.
This isn't about whether or not a child will take on the same Beliefs as their parent or if having a "relationship with Christ" is good or bad. I wasn't talking about that at all.

What I am talking about is this concept that just because YOU disagree with something in a school curriculum, your child doesn't have to learn it.

And I say that whether or not someone has the right to choose what their child learns is irrelevant; to deny THEM the right to learn it and make up their own mind is cowardly and selfish. For someone to say that they don't want their child to learn about Evolution because THEY (the parents) don't agree with it, is doing a disservice to the child. What about people who are racist? Should they be able to pull their kids out of school because the children would be taught about the Civil Rights Movement?

No, I say, let your kids learn about everything, and hide nothing from them. If you have a problem with the curriculum, go to PTA and School Board meetings and let your opinion be heard. But also have the maturity to accept if your requests are denied and tell your kids to go and work as hard as they can, regardless of the subject matter.

No one suffered because they had too much knowledge, but the World suffers because we have too little.

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You have somehow managed to take this WAY off topic.
This isn't about whether or not a child will take on the same Beliefs as their parent or if having a "relationship with Christ" is good or bad. I wasn't talking about that at all.
What I am talking about is this concept that just because YOU disagree with something in a school curriculum, your child doesn't have to learn it.
And I say that whether or not someone has the right to choose what their child learns is irrelevant; to deny THEM the right to learn it and make up their own mind is cowardly and selfish. For someone to say that they don't want their child to learn about Evolution because THEY (the parents) don't agree with it, is doing a disservice to the child. What about people who are racist? Should they be able to pull their kids out of school because the children would be taught about the Civil Rights Movement?
No, I say, let your kids learn about everything, and hide nothing from them. If you have a problem with the curriculum, go to PTA and School Board meetings and let your opinion be heard. But also have the maturity to accept if your requests are denied and tell your kids to go and work as hard as they can, regardless of the subject matter.
No one suffered because they had too much knowledge, but the World suffers because we have too little.
It is true that this did get away from the education topic but it did so because some of the things we talked about being taught in school (or the lack there of) and how they can be teaching against a person's religious beliefs.

You and I are just not going to see eye to eye on many topics so there is really no need to say much else at this point except for this...you speak of ALL things being offered to our children...well if they are going to taught evolution in schools then they should also be taught Creation by God!

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Nov 22, 2010
 
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It is true that this did get away from the education topic but it did so because some of the things we talked about being taught in school (or the lack there of) and how they can be teaching against a person's religious beliefs.
Let's be specific here, it's not "a person's" religious beliefs, but "a parent's" religious beliefs about which you're speaking.
And it doesn't matter. It's really not up to the parent what their child chooses to Believe, it's up to the child. The only task the parent has is to present the child with the opportunity to learn about the Faith through services, religious education (outside the school) and discussion of the topic at home. And if the child chooses to abandon those "teachings" and
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You and I are just not going to see eye to eye on many topics so there is really no need to say much else at this point
I find it interesting that YOUR inability to give any ground at all on certain subjects negates the further need for discussion. Is that why most people who consider themselves "Faithful" or "Spiritual" seem so ignorant? Because if it even hints at contradicting your interpretation of Scripture you immediately label it as "false" or "heresy" and will no longer listen?
Understand that it is YOU who choose to break off this discussion, not me.
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except for this...you speak of ALL things being offered to our children...well if they are going to taught evolution in schools then they should also be taught Creation by God!
And they are - at church or in religious education classes. Why should Faith get two bites of the apple? I can pretty much guarantee that religious education classes aren't going to teach a favorable view of Evolution and the Big Bang (if they teach it at all), so why should the Public Schools make any concessions for the teaching of Creationism?

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