Brocton hears request for tuition stu...

Brocton hears request for tuition students

There are 50 comments on the Observer story from Sep 2, 2012, titled Brocton hears request for tuition students. In it, Observer reports that:

Brocton Central School has had a no-tuition policy for quite some time. A concerned parent questioned if this policy could be amended.

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FINALLY

United States

#21 Sep 17, 2012
Pro-merger wrote:
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You should try studying up on this before you speak. Westfield reserves are worse of then Brocton. Westfield reserves will be gone by 2014-15.. Brocton reserves are projected to be gone a year later. Both schools are similar in size AND problems. One is doing no better then the other. Get your head out of the clouds and do your research. Brocton will have just as much say on what goes on as Westfield.
http://observertoday.com/page/content.detail/...
From the article.. "Alan Holbrook, the WACS business manager, painted the picture for Westfield: an increasing budget gap, a declining fund balance that will lead to fiscal insolvency, a decline in enrollment and a decline in staff.
Specifically in 2012-2013 (before application of reserves or fund balance), the budget gap was $1.2 million; by 2016-17, the cumulative budget gap would be $10.5. By 2014-15, all reserves would be exhausted. Enrollment has declined from 1,100 students in 1995-96 to 760 currently. The projection for 2017-18 is 629 students. The teaching staff declined from 102 in 1995-96 to a current 79 and is projected to be 55 in 2017.
Also from the article.. "Betty Deland, the business manager from Brocton, projected that reserves at Brocton will last until 2015-16."
And of course on size there is this.. "Hertlein pointed out that the districts are similar in geographic size and enrollment."
Your precious Westfield isn't in any better shape then Brocton. If anything, it seems they may be a little worse off..
Finally someone with a brain on here. Great post.
Westfield

Dunkirk, NY

#22 Sep 17, 2012
Pro-merger wrote:
<quoted text>
You should try studying up on this before you speak. Westfield reserves are worse of then Brocton. Westfield reserves will be gone by 2014-15.. Brocton reserves are projected to be gone a year later. Both schools are similar in size AND problems. One is doing no better then the other. Get your head out of the clouds and do your research. Brocton will have just as much say on what goes on as Westfield.
http://observertoday.com/page/content.detail/...
From the article.. "Alan Holbrook, the WACS business manager, painted the picture for Westfield: an increasing budget gap, a declining fund balance that will lead to fiscal insolvency, a decline in enrollment and a decline in staff.
Specifically in 2012-2013 (before application of reserves or fund balance), the budget gap was $1.2 million; by 2016-17, the cumulative budget gap would be $10.5. By 2014-15, all reserves would be exhausted. Enrollment has declined from 1,100 students in 1995-96 to 760 currently. The projection for 2017-18 is 629 students. The teaching staff declined from 102 in 1995-96 to a current 79 and is projected to be 55 in 2017.
Also from the article.. "Betty Deland, the business manager from Brocton, projected that reserves at Brocton will last until 2015-16."
And of course on size there is this.. "Hertlein pointed out that the districts are similar in geographic size and enrollment."
Your precious Westfield isn't in any better shape then Brocton. If anything, it seems they may be a little worse off..
Sorry, you can not compare Brocton with Westfield. That is a joke. Westfield has a tax base it also has great housing and does have some new housing growth, small but still growth. Brocton has nothing, just like Ripley. Ripley voted for the merger with Westfield because it was a value for them. Brocton will also vote for the merger with Westfield because its a value for them. However if the High School does not stay in Westfield and if Westfield taxpayers don't see a decrease then Westfield will vote the merger down. As far as school finance goes you never know what will happen a year or two down the road. As an example Brocton was in a hole just 2 years ago and has since climbed out. Getting rid of 20 or so employees was a great move.
hahaha

Fredonia, NY

#23 Sep 17, 2012
Its all a mute point, everyone will be moved to Chautauqua Lake and their mold infested school!
LOL

Dunkirk, NY

#24 Sep 17, 2012
Dont count Brocton out we voted against the merger with fredonia
Pro-merger

Mayville, NY

#25 Sep 17, 2012
Westfield wrote:
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Sorry, you can not compare Brocton with Westfield. That is a joke. Westfield has a tax base it also has great housing and does have some new housing growth, small but still growth. Brocton has nothing, just like Ripley. Ripley voted for the merger with Westfield because it was a value for them. Brocton will also vote for the merger with Westfield because its a value for them. However if the High School does not stay in Westfield and if Westfield taxpayers don't see a decrease then Westfield will vote the merger down. As far as school finance goes you never know what will happen a year or two down the road. As an example Brocton was in a hole just 2 years ago and has since climbed out. Getting rid of 20 or so employees was a great move.
Like I said.. do your research. Westfield has cut as many employees as Brocton and yet they are still in the same boat. Try backing up what you say with a little knowledge.. until then, well.. there is nothing left to discuss here with you.
get real

Dunkirk, NY

#26 Sep 18, 2012
Your basing your analysis on information from Al Holbrook and Betty Deland. Good luck with that.
lmao

Fredonia, NY

#27 Sep 18, 2012
Isn't it funny that Fredonia still has all their sports and academic programs and is still in the black. Now you people want to merge two financially failing school districts. Wow great minds are thinking here!
cvb

Dunkirk, NY

#28 Sep 18, 2012
"Pro-merger" Please look at the options and opportunities being offered in the schools. I think you will find a large difference. If Westfield were to reduce its programs to Brocton's level, they would be viable for much longer. It is the desire to have an abundance of extras that is pulling the district down sooner.
Dont talk

United States

#29 Sep 18, 2012
lmao wrote:
Isn't it funny that Fredonia still has all their sports and academic programs and is still in the black. Now you people want to merge two financially failing school districts. Wow great minds are thinking here!
If I was you I would not be gloating too much. Fredonia's sports programs will be dwindling VERY SOON!!!! Loss of jobs are coming too. Stay tuned.
get real

Dunkirk, NY

#30 Sep 18, 2012
cvb wrote:
"Pro-merger" Please look at the options and opportunities being offered in the schools. I think you will find a large difference. If Westfield were to reduce its programs to Brocton's level, they would be viable for much longer. It is the desire to have an abundance of extras that is pulling the district down sooner.
You are correct, here at Brocton we have nothing.
ABC

Dunkirk, NY

#31 Oct 4, 2012
aahh wrote:
So send your kid to a under preforming school with little or no electives, a school that is also on the verge of being bankrupt!
If you are referencing Brocton as under preforming, you should find facts to back that statement up. And the budget in Fredonia is no better than in Brocton, that is a fact you can not ignore.
jisum

Horseheads, NY

#32 Oct 5, 2012
FF----U-U==CC---KK BROCTON!!
justsayin

Horseheads, NY

#33 Oct 5, 2012
That's real mature.
well

Fredonia, NY

#34 Oct 7, 2012
ABC wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are referencing Brocton as under preforming, you should find facts to back that statement up. And the budget in Fredonia is no better than in Brocton, that is a fact you can not ignore.
well Fredonia is not broke and they still have their programs!
yea

Horseheads, NY

#39 Jun 20, 2013
Remember this article where Mrs Zappie was pleading for a humanitarian exception so her daughter could attend bcs and the board denied it? Looks like she got her way as usual even though she was told no...
jzz

Fredonia, NY

#40 Jun 20, 2013
Lets get back on topic of the tuition student and not the merger
Rumor squashing

Dunkirk, NY

#41 Jun 20, 2013
Hate the bashing of the Brocton school and all the misinformation out there. According to business first rankings, Brocton ranks significantly higher than Dunkirk, for the person who was comparing the two. Also, Dunkirk ranks fourth highest in WNY for communities with high rates of people without even a high school diploma. Do your research about the merge before spouting out rumors. Both districts are roughly similar sizes, and in similar financial difficulties within the next few years. Not all the Brocton kids would just get shipped to Westfield, and besides, this is about a person wanting to pay tuition when people were just on here bashing her for not doing it....this isn't about whether it is a good school or not.
Hard worker

Ripley, NY

#42 Jul 2, 2013
This Westfield person is DERANGED & DELERIOUS...Westfield School Pool NO....Brand New Cafeteria NO!!! Wake up Westfield all your "old money" is gone! The village is no longer ~RESPECTABLE OLD WESTFIED" after all there is a Mc Donald's there now LOL!!
Lucy

Lakewood, NY

#43 Jul 3, 2013
justsaying wrote:
The woman teaches at Brocton. It is understandable why the parents would want the child to go to Brocton. MOST school districts allow the children of faculty to attend the school district if the parent (s) work there.(some for free, some with tuition) It makes holiday breaks, before/after school child care much easier, etc...I highly doubt it is the parents thinking one school is better then the other. This appears to be an elementary level child. Don't see what the issue should be.
Well if you teach at Brocton, and want your child to be on the same schedule, move to the same district. That's what my friends family did. Don't have the school district change the rule of no tuition students allowed for one person.
Rico

Fredonia, NY

#44 Jul 3, 2013
Lucy wrote:
<quoted text>Well if you teach at Brocton, and want your child to be on the same schedule, move to the same district. That's what my friends family did. Don't have the school district change the rule of no tuition students allowed for one person.
Why should she have to move when she believes the whole world revolves around her.

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