ACLU seeks removal of Ohio school's J...

ACLU seeks removal of Ohio school's Jesus portrait

There are 6 comments on the Detroit News story from Feb 7, 2013, titled ACLU seeks removal of Ohio school's Jesus portrait. In it, Detroit News reports that:

A portrait of Jesus that hangs prominently in an entranceway at a rural Ohio public school is in violation of the U.S. Constitution and should be removed, a federal lawsuit filed Thursday says.

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Ohio Wrangler

Kent, OH

#1 Feb 8, 2013
With so much injustice in our laws and courts--it would seem the aclu could make better use of their time in solving these problems that contribute to our prison problems and inmates coming out and being allowed to rejoin society without stigma of prison--instead of persecuting Jesus and religion in general.
Doesn't anyone see how much crime is growing as prayer is removed from the public?? For many underprivileged kids, that little prayer or picture of Jesus is the only reminder in their lives of living decently. You have taken that little bit of God out of public life and replaced it with violent video games, and lots of sex in movies and magazines. Then you wonder why brutality and sex offenses are rampant.
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#2 Feb 8, 2013
Firs of all, what exactly is "so much injustice"?

Where does it cross the line into being "too much" instead of just normal variations in a system? Do you have an objective yardstick for that, or is this, as I suspect, just presumption? It's a meaningless statement out of context.

Second, the ACLU is a private organization made up of a lot of state and local chapters, and they all have their own ideas and priorties. It's also not for you to set their agenda for them.

The First Amendment is, arguably, the most important within the Bill of Rights and therefore deserves the most attention and respect.

Your link of crime rate to declining prayer is a classic post hoc fallacy, by the way. There is no link, at least not to that.

The rest of your post is so full of overblown assumptions and logical fallacies that it is hardly worth further comment.

If you want to change society, you are barking up the wrong tree.

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#3 Feb 11, 2013
Violent crime has been going down steadily for 40+ years now so arguing a link between school prayer and that doesn't exactly help your argument, OW.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#4 Feb 11, 2013
I could never figure that out. Our Constitution only mentions Congress when it comes to religion. Not state, not city, not school officials, not the janitor. Yet, a community that pays their taxes to support their school gets sued to take down a picture of Jesus Christ, like that's the biggest problem we have in our country today.

I would allow them to take me to court and prove that it's a picture of Jesus Christ. After all, nobody really knows what Jesus looked like. I would tell the court that it's a picture of a guitarist in a local rock band back in the 70's.
Amanda Slap

Dayton, OH

#5 Feb 11, 2013
Ohio Wrangler wrote:
With so much injustice in our laws and courts--it would seem the aclu could make better use of their time in solving these problems that contribute to our prison problems and inmates coming out and being allowed to rejoin society without stigma of prison--instead of persecuting Jesus and religion in general.
Doesn't anyone see how much crime is growing as prayer is removed from the public?? For many underprivileged kids, that little prayer or picture of Jesus is the only reminder in their lives of living decently. You have taken that little bit of God out of public life and replaced it with violent video games, and lots of sex in movies and magazines. Then you wonder why brutality and sex offenses are rampant.
Prayer doesn't have shit to do with it. Crime is actually on the decline. We just hear about crime more quickly, due to instant, around the world internet and social media, but per population, crime has really decreased.
Nothing to do with religion. In fact recent polls tell us that religious belief is on the decline, especially with younger people.
Science, you know.
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#6 Feb 13, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
I could never figure that out. Our Constitution only mentions Congress when it comes to religion. Not state, not city, not school officials, not the janitor. Yet, a community that pays their taxes to support their school gets sued to take down a picture of Jesus Christ, like that's the biggest problem we have in our country today.
I would allow them to take me to court and prove that it's a picture of Jesus Christ. After all, nobody really knows what Jesus looked like. I would tell the court that it's a picture of a guitarist in a local rock band back in the 70's.
Basic Civics:
The 14th amendment made most of the Bill of Rights applicable to the states.
Just because it isn't the "biggest" problem doesn't mean it is not a problem. It unconstitutional.
Also they won't have any trouble proving it. That's not much of a defense.

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