Massena school district requests inpu...

Massena school district requests input to reduce $5.5 million budget gap

There are 43 comments on the Watertown Daily Times story from Mar 11, 2013, titled Massena school district requests input to reduce $5.5 million budget gap. In it, Watertown Daily Times reports that:

Overcoming a $5.5 million gap in the Massena Central School District's 2013-14 budget proposal won't be easy, according to the facilitator of a community forum held Thursday night at Jefferson Elementary School.

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GREEKO

Brandon, FL

#1 Mar 12, 2013
Hey I got a ideal for you, get rid of all these aids and subs that we are paying for. That would save us a hell o.f alot of money instead of cutting school programs.So much money is waisted in this school system here.Cut down or out some of thefat cats payycheck at the administration building. Even better cut their positions right out. They sit on their fat arses and dictate and I,am not talking about Rodger Clough either.
dorrie

Conklin, NY

#2 Mar 13, 2013
Idiot...how can a district do without Aides or Subs? Get a clue...
Merge

Auburn, NY

#3 Mar 13, 2013
It's time to smell the coffee. The local school districts need to get together and merge. Let's consolidate administrations and get a centralized highschool. Maybe we can get back some of the programs that were cut in the past.
Reality

Utica, NY

#4 Mar 13, 2013
Talk to kids who go to regional high schools. Most would prefer smaller schools. Data does not bear out that kids from regional schools do better, even with the extra course offerings, , quite the opposite. Regionalization is about money not what is best for kids.
ggggggggg

Sun City Center, FL

#5 Mar 13, 2013
I,ll tell you how the districts will do without aids and subs. Let the teachers be teachers and start dcoing therte work instead off hiring all these subs and aids that we pay for.When I was in school we didn,t have all these subs and aids roaming the halls of the schools. This is a waste of taxpayers monies.Get rid of some of the personal at the cab administration building. Believe me I know whats going on there as I work there and see what is happening.They do what they want and spend what they want and then expect us to pay for it by raising our taxes. Without all these aids and subs we could have the programs for our children.
Merge

Ardsley, NY

#6 Mar 14, 2013
Reality wrote:
Talk to kids who go to regional high schools. Most would prefer smaller schools. Data does not bear out that kids from regional schools do better, even with the extra course offerings,, quite the opposite. Regionalization is about money not what is best for kids.
That's right. It's about money. They are short 5.5 million. Merge!
dorrie

Fitchburg, MA

#7 Mar 14, 2013
ggggggggg wrote:
I,ll tell you how the districts will do without aids and subs. Let the teachers be teachers and start dcoing therte work instead off hiring all these subs and aids that we pay for.When I was in school we didn,t have all these subs and aids roaming the halls of the schools. This is a waste of taxpayers monies.Get rid of some of the personal at the cab administration building. Believe me I know whats going on there as I work there and see what is happening.They do what they want and spend what they want and then expect us to pay for it by raising our taxes. Without all these aids and subs we could have the programs for our children.
You, again, show your idiocy. You SAY you work at CAB...but yet you are bashing them? What a faithful employee you are. And by the way, the word you meant to use was personnel, not personal. Perhaps with more aids and subs that care, you would have known that.
hmmmm

Massena, NY

#8 Mar 14, 2013
Teachers are out of touch with reality. Teachers used to live on Grove St. Now they live on Wilson Hill, Sierra Lane. If you want to know what the problem is, look right there.
Teachers run the board

Auburn, NY

#9 Mar 14, 2013
hmmmm wrote:
Teachers are out of touch with reality. Teachers used to live on Grove St. Now they live on Wilson Hill, Sierra Lane. If you want to know what the problem is, look right there.
They even ran Roger Clough out who is Supt.of schools! 5.5 million? Sad for the kids.
Sasha

Syracuse, NY

#10 Mar 14, 2013
You think it is reasonable to pay a teacher $52,000 a year? with less then 10 years on the job, what will they make at the 20 year mark? they work half a year! and get state retirement. Yes they have to have a masters degree to be a teacher but used to be you taught because you truly loved the job and did it for the rewarding career.
Mistaken

Evans City, PA

#11 Mar 14, 2013
52K is not nearly enough... Really? Teachers hav WTO fear for their lives now, they should also get hazard pay!! If Massena starts paying less, we won't get the pick of our teachers anymore- do you want to get the teachers that couldn't get hired anywhere else? Oh my god people are amazing! 52,000 Is an "average" income.... Nobody is getting rich off of that.
It will be happening

Auburn, NY

#12 Mar 14, 2013
Every school has a budget that isn't sustainable. We are beginning a period where big financial changes are going to happen and nobody is going to be happy..
What are we teaching

Auburn, NY

#13 Mar 14, 2013
When we run our schools in an unsustainable way what is that teaching our children about how they should manage their own finances? I'm afraid the present system isn't doing a very good job in this area.
Reality

Utica, NY

#14 Mar 14, 2013
Sasha wrote:
You think it is reasonable to pay a teacher $52,000 a year? with less then 10 years on the job, what will they make at the 20 year mark? they work half a year! and get state retirement. Yes they have to have a masters degree to be a teacher but used to be you taught because you truly loved the job and did it for the rewarding career.
Sad state of affairs is when people put money over kids, whether it be teachers or other residents.

Go to seethroughny.com ( or.org ) and show me a contract that pays a teacher 52,000 with less than 10 years. Most top out in high 60''s or 70 with 25 or more years

Both sides in this debte need to be realistic. Teachers deserve to be compensated fairly with all the cost of becoming a teacher, but they also need to be realistic on health care costs. Putting money ahead of all else is a shortsighted solution. Invest in the future, it pays off fr the kids who will tke advantage of the education.
Whatever

Auburn, NY

#15 Mar 14, 2013
Reality wrote:
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Sad state of affairs is when people put money over kids, whether it be teachers or other residents.
Go to seethroughny.com ( or.org ) and show me a contract that pays a teacher 52,000 with less than 10 years. Most top out in high 60''s or 70 with 25 or more years
Both sides in this debte need to be realistic. Teachers deserve to be compensated fairly with all the cost of becoming a teacher, but they also need to be realistic on health care costs. Putting money ahead of all else is a shortsighted solution. Invest in the future, it pays off fr the kids who will tke advantage of the education.
Smells like a teacher to me. It's not just healthcare but your retirement as well. The number people with teacher pay, healthcare and retirement have dwindled over the years and we can't continue to give them all that they have expected. I have a masters degree and work and pay taxes in this community. I don't get these benefits and I don't want my tax dollars going to pay for yours when we have a 5.5 million dollar shortfall. The mayor of Detroit just hired a negotiater to straighten out their mess. This person has the power to renegotiate all contracts and privatize public services. It's time New York State did the same thing. The unions are an obstacle towards financial sustainability. The teachers union is draining the taxpayer and we new to side step it.
Dave

Massena, NY

#16 Mar 20, 2013
Massena. Has a nice football field that hurts our kids knees , and a parking lot that's a disaster the money that went to this would have went a long way we need to elect people with common sence
truthfully

Auburn, NY

#17 Mar 20, 2013
Dave wrote:
Massena. Has a nice football field that hurts our kids knees , and a parking lot that's a disaster the money that went to this would have went a long way we need to elect people with common sence
it certainly would have
Sasha

Syracuse, NY

#18 Mar 20, 2013
Mistaken wrote:
52K is not nearly enough... Really? Teachers hav WTO fear for their lives now, they should also get hazard pay!! If Massena starts paying less, we won't get the pick of our teachers anymore- do you want to get the teachers that couldn't get hired anywhere else? Oh my god people are amazing! 52,000 Is an "average" income.... Nobody is getting rich off of that.
You consider $52k "average" income for one person in this area? I think that is quite a stretch. I like the hazard pay you suggest, you think maybe an extra $10k a year for that would do?
I work in a maximum security prison, I would trade one of Massena's finest teachers a shift with Bubba then talk about hazards.
Sasha

Syracuse, NY

#19 Mar 20, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Smells like a teacher to me. It's not just healthcare but your retirement as well. The number people with teacher pay, healthcare and retirement have dwindled over the years and we can't continue to give them all that they have expected. I have a masters degree and work and pay taxes in this community. I don't get these benefits and I don't want my tax dollars going to pay for yours when we have a 5.5 million dollar shortfall. The mayor of Detroit just hired a negotiater to straighten out their mess. This person has the power to renegotiate all contracts and privatize public services. It's time New York State did the same thing. The unions are an obstacle towards financial sustainability. The teachers union is draining the taxpayer and we new to side step it.
Exactly! with the economy the way it is, they can't have everything anymore. With the amount of pay, benefits, and retirement not to mention the number of days they work in a year. Something has to give here.
Sally

Syracuse, NY

#20 Mar 20, 2013
hmmmm wrote:
Teachers are out of touch with reality. Teachers used to live on Grove St. Now they live on Wilson Hill, Sierra Lane. If you want to know what the problem is, look right there.
My point exactly!!!!!! and they feel their income is "average"

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