PVUSD paid administrators $12.5 milli...

PVUSD paid administrators $12.5 million in salary last year

There are 182 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Oct 25, 2009, titled PVUSD paid administrators $12.5 million in salary last year. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

For the past two years, as Pajaro Valley school leaders slashed $22 million in annual spending, "chop from the top" has been a frequent refrain from teachers and classified workers who have seen their pay stagnate and their ranks thin.

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T00-Close-To-The -Issue

United States

#167 Dec 3, 2009
Gee Whizz PVUSD.

NON ENOUGH MONEY AGAIN?

So, why are you STILL urinating away a cool million or so every year on "that pat guy" and the Pajaro Valley Performing Arts Association?

Run reasonably, "the mello" could, should and WOULD HAVE BEEN kicking out MILLIONS every single year for the kids of PVUSD.

That "missing" money is VERY REAL willie yahiro and the rest of you official local "arts critics".

But noooooooooooooooooooo!

Why not?

Why do YOU PEOPLE still have you panties in such a twist about Watsonville Bill - and his hundreds of world class concert artist friends - playing piano recitals IN HIS HOME TOWN?

To Benefit the Public - in his home town.

Folks, this little game they're playing at PVUSD is costing the Taxpayers AT LEAST A MILLION A YEAR.

Isn't that worth allowing the Public in on one of "Leadership" worst rotten little local secret?
falcon

Mountain View, CA

#168 Dec 5, 2009
Horizonline wrote:
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Oh, yeah?
By DONNA JONES
Posted: 11/19/2009 01:30:42 AM PST
"The district needs concessions from employees to bridge the gap but negotiations have yet to be successful.
"The fiscal crisis continues, and time grows short," said Michael Jones, principal of Alianza Charter School and president of the district's administrators association. "That we have a little less to cut is certainly a welcome development, but the hole that will remain will still be an impossible number."
Given the deadline, Jones said he would propose to his association that administrators unilaterally take six furlough days in the current school year, and a seventh day if teachers agree to take six days off without pay as well. The seventh day reflects a proportional sacrifice as administrators work more days annually than teachers, he said.
Jones said he hoped to get agreement from administrators for the furlough days before the next board meeting on Dec. 2."
Oh my. You are uninformed. This is an association, not a union. PVFT and CSEA are both nationwide union organizations. This is an association of administrators who work in Pajaro. No tenure, no salary schedule, little job security, regular yearly work schedule with lots of overtime to get the job done. Like the rest of us working stiffs in the real world. A slight difference.

I'll give you that some of them seem to do a pretty poor job at what they do, and that the district & board should be more aggressive at getting rid of the slacker administrators rather than carry them due to "community pressure."
Randy_G

Watsonville, CA

#169 Dec 6, 2009
falcon wrote:
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This is an association of administrators who work in Pajaro. No tenure, no salary schedule, little job security, regular yearly work schedule with lots of overtime to get the job done.
Stick to gofers, Falcon. In this "association," they have tenure from previous teaching jobs. They have a very handsome salary schedule and semi-infinite job security. Oh, and yes, these managers get overtime, unlike managers in the real world.
falcon

Mountain View, CA

#170 Dec 6, 2009
Randy_G wrote:
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Stick to gofers, Falcon. In this "association," they have tenure from previous teaching jobs. They have a very handsome salary schedule and semi-infinite job security. Oh, and yes, these managers get overtime, unlike managers in the real world.
I agree they have a handsome salary schedule, and some may have job security based on what type of administrator they are, but that job security can bump them back down to the classroom with a huge cut in pay, but that's life. Others have contracts. Some are grant-based contracts and some are two to three year contracts. They do have a real cush retirement program. I shoulda gone into teaching for that reason alone. My social security, as a percentage of my income, is a joke compared to what teachers and administrators get. I have no union and no pension either. Just what I save.

And it's gophers.
Horizonline

San Jose, CA

#171 Dec 6, 2009
falcon wrote:
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They do have a real cush retirement program. I shoulda gone into teaching for that reason alone. My social security, as a percentage of my income, is a joke compared to what teachers and administrators get. I have no union and no pension either. Just what I save.
Your inference that teachers and administrators are at the same salary levels and both get cush retirements is ridiculous. I found your statement "I shoulda gone into teaching" interesting. If you really mean that you might have taught for awhile and then gone into administration, you need to know--you do know this of course--that not all highly paid school administrators first were teachers.(But I'll bet they made the best administrators, that is, unless money and power replaced their good character.) Take the highly paid retired Business Manager Terry McHenry.(Isn't he still on the payroll as a "construction expert" on the dole for well over $600 a day?) Who knows what his handsome retirement is since he was certificated and retired with PERS (Public Employees Retirement Service).
Horizonline

San Jose, CA

#172 Dec 6, 2009
Horizonline wrote:
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Who knows what his handsome retirement is since he was certificated and retired with PERS (Public Employees Retirement Service).
Sorry, left out critical word NOT in last sentence. He was NOT certificated.
Too Close To The Issue

Santa Rosa, CA

#173 Dec 8, 2009
falcon wrote:
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...the district & board should be more aggressive at getting rid of the slacker....
But, Falcon, without a doubt, the biggest, most expensive and most destructive pvusd SLACKER of them all is the PAJARO VALLEY PERFORMING ARTS ASSOCIATION.

Folks, the Taxpayer's TRUE OPPORTUNITY COST for allowing pvusd's cute and cuddly little "arts" hobby is WELL over ONE MILLION DOLLARS every single year.

So, let's be honest about this vexing local issue Falcon.

Are we Taxpayers REALLY getting a REASONABLE PROFIT on our LOCAL one million dollar per year investment?

Are we getting an HONEST LOCAL RETURN on our LOCAL investement in PRE PURCHASED LOCAL Public Benefit?

Because, we Taxpayers built the mello - NOT pvpaa - WE TAXPAYERS then dedicated "the mello" TO OUR OWN genuine local benefit - NOT for the benefit of "Leadership's" carpetbagger FRAUD called pvpaa.
Soaring To Excellence

Ben Lomond, CA

#174 Dec 8, 2009
While the issues of public access to the Mello may reflect school incompetnce, other examples of fat at the top of the Towers trump them all.
Too Close To The Issue

Pleasanton, CA

#175 Dec 10, 2009
Soaring To Excellence wrote:
While the issues of public access to the Mello may reflect school incompetnce, other examples of fat at the top of the Towers trump them all.
Well, as a "product of" the PVUSD, I can do simple arithmetic.

Collectively perhaps.

Yet, what I have been saying from the start - AS AN ORIGINAL BOARD MEMBER OF pvusd's "cute little arts hobby" called pvpaa......

Is that WE VOTERS need to understand that the TRUE OPPORTUNITY COST for "the mello" is not limited to the daily expenses involved in allowing "the me low" to just sit there and NOT ACTUALLY SERVE THE PUBLIC.

Because, WE MUST ALSO INCLUDE the TRUE OPPORTUNITY COST to the local community for "Leadership's" inexplicable decision to REFUSE TO ALLOW genuine valuable professional quality LOCALLY PRODUCED Public Benefit to take place ON ITS OWN in the Taxpayers - dedicated to LOCAL PUBLIC BENEFIT - concert facility.

Folks, DO THE MATH!!!!

THE "BCA Issue" has always TRUMPED ALL OTHER "pvusd issues" - at least SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR for nearly TWENTY YEARS now folks - just urinated "down upon" we lowly Taxpayers from pvusd's ivory and concrete TAXPAYER RENTED towers.
Momadvo

United States

#176 Jan 30, 2010
This is a rip off, specially when all this pseudo "programs specialists" are using special education funds for their own pockets.
Panty Twist

United States

#177 Jan 30, 2010
Yep.

We Taxpayers built the mello.

NOT pvpaa.

WE TAXPAYERS then dedicated "the mello" TO OUR OWN genuine local benefit.

NOT for the exclusive private benefit of "Leadership's" carpetbagger FRAUD called pvpaa.
Horizonline

South San Francisco, CA

#178 Jan 30, 2010
Momadvo wrote:
This is a rip off, specially when all this pseudo "programs specialists" are using special education funds for their own pockets.
Could you explain this a little more, Momadvo? Like, what do "programs specialists" do? Are special ed kids profiting from what these specialists do? Thank you.
Progressive Idiot Frauds

United States

#179 Feb 3, 2010
Honestly Folks - up PVUSD.

WE VOTERS need to understand that the TRUE OPPORTUNITY COST for PVUSD's "the mello" is not limited to the daily expenses involved in allowing our twenty million dollar facility to just sit there and NOT ACTUALLY SERVE THE PUBLIC.

Because, WE MUST ALSO INCLUDE the TRUE OPPORTUNITY COST to the local community for "Leadership's" inexplicable decision to REFUSE TO ALLOW genuine valuable professional quality LOCALLY PRODUCED Public Benefit to take place ON ITS OWN in the Taxpayers LOCAL PUBLIC BENEFIT facility.

JUST DO THE MATH!!!!

Given the shear size of PVUSD's "cute little arts hobby" slush fund THE "BCA Issue" has always TRUMPED ALL OTHER "pvusd issues".

SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR just urinated "down upon" we lowly Taxpayers from pvusd's ivory and concrete EXPENSIVE TAXPAYER RENTED towers.

I'm feeling better ejumificated all the time, how bout you?
BUDGET CUTTER

Watsonville, CA

#180 Feb 5, 2010
Perhaps they will let Blow Hard Bill play in the Aptos Performing Arts Center?
It also sits empty most of the time, rather than produce income for cash straped schools.
Two great performance venues underutilized for the public good.
Lots of management personel in the system, but little management of the system.

“Oh well, been called worse ”

Since: Sep 09

Santa Cruz

#181 Feb 5, 2010
local teacher wrote:
Yes, some administrators put in long hours, but many teachers put in long hours too. I can tell you that we do not get any car reimbursements even when traveling for school business. We also attend meetings after school and in the evening, and many of us work weekends. I have been teaching over ten years and make around $55,000. I have no paid help in the classroom and am responsible for 30 students. I have a master's degree and can speak another language. I often see administrators gong for coffee or out to lunch together. We are not able to do that during the school day because we are teaching students. Shouldn't the money go where the students are?
Teachers are way UNDERPAID , Thats what really ticks me off. Now on the other hand the administrators seem to be very happy with their large salary's , stipends and education benefits ,isnt that just dandy . Oh and lets not forget that trick of raising their salary two years ago in lieu of the knowledge that they would be dropping them a little this year ,, What a bunch of thieves and rip offs !!!!!
Progressive Idiot Frauds

United States

#182 Feb 5, 2010
BUDGET CUTTER wrote:
Perhaps they will let Blow Hard Bill play in the Aptos Performing Arts Center?
It also sits empty most of the time, rather than produce income for cash straped schools.
Two great performance venues underutilized for the public good.
Lots of management personel in the system, but little management of the system.
I appreciate the shovels full of support.

However, the truth is never being a "blow hard" by repeatedly tapping "Leadership" on the shoulder.

Just do the math PVUSD. Because, you've fallen far behind your own students in this subject.

Those facilities are a MASSIVE WASTING ASSET - while you trumped up local idiots keep trying to pretend for the Public's consumption that you "don't know who I am".

It's been a cleverly dirty little game and you've certainly cost me a lot of money. Excellent "brain work" Yahiro. Now go do some push ups.

But, in choosing to favor your selfish little local game over the Public's true best interests, you've DELIBERATELY INFLICTED far more loss upon local Students, Parents, Teachers, Taxpayers and the entire Educational and Cultural Community.

Not to mention THE DOWNTOWN!!! I've seen all those empty storefronts, have you? Indeed, all my offers to stimulate the downtown are just crazy talk from the local "blow hard".

Yet, what does "Leadership" have to show for choosing to play this mean spirited, selfish stupid trick on the UNREPRESENTED LOCAL ELECTORATE?

Just ask the FIVE HUNDRED SCHOLAR CATZ at pvusd's Watsonville High School.

Do you want outstanding graduates of local Public Education?

Because those FIVE HUNDRED "best hopes" for Watsonville already understand who, what and why I am.
Panty Twist

United States

#183 Feb 7, 2010
What he said:
Progressive Idiot Frauds wrote:
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I appreciate the shovels full of support.
However, the truth is never being a "blow hard" by repeatedly tapping "Leadership" on the shoulder.
Just do the math PVUSD. Because, you've fallen far behind your own students in this subject.
Those facilities are a MASSIVE WASTING ASSET - while you trumped up local idiots keep trying to pretend for the Public's consumption that you "don't know who I am".
It's been a cleverly dirty little game and you've certainly cost me a lot of money. Excellent "brain work" Yahiro. Now go do some push ups.
But, in choosing to favor your selfish little local game over the Public's true best interests, you've DELIBERATELY INFLICTED far more loss upon local Students, Parents, Teachers, Taxpayers and the entire Educational and Cultural Community.
Not to mention THE DOWNTOWN!!! I've seen all those empty storefronts, have you? Indeed, all my offers to stimulate the downtown are just crazy talk from the local "blow hard".
Yet, what does "Leadership" have to show for choosing to play this mean spirited, selfish stupid trick on the UNREPRESENTED LOCAL ELECTORATE?
Just ask the FIVE HUNDRED SCHOLAR CATZ at pvusd's Watsonville High School.
Do you want outstanding graduates of local Public Education?
Because those FIVE HUNDRED "best hopes" for Watsonville already understand who, what and why I am.
Since the local Electorate has no control over the local Government - and we have a brand new FIFTY TWO MILLION DOLLAR government palace downtown to prove it - let's abolish the City Of Watsonville in the same stroke as we END pvusd.

Too much government is the problem, but we Citizens can still fix it.

Just round up all these stray BIG GOVERNMENT "professionals" and throw them in a nice roomy gunnysack.

Them haul em down to the river and drown them.
SC TAXPAYER

Hollister, CA

#184 Feb 8, 2010
And none of these people could get a job flipping burgers at McDonald's. Cut them all by 30% and if they leave, so what. They can be replaced in a day with someone better for 40% less.
TOP CHOPPER

Ben Lomond, CA

#185 Feb 15, 2010
Bill is right.
Pajaro needs a new School Board. Too many for too long have done too little for the future of our kids.
Kick out these bureaucrats!
JESUS

Watsonville, CA

#186 Feb 19, 2010
THOSE TOP EANERS SHOULD LEND US SOME MONEY FOR SPORT SUPPLIES AT RENAISSANCE HIGH SCHOOL!!!

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