PVUSD paid administrators $12.5 milli...

PVUSD paid administrators $12.5 million in salary last year

There are 182 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Oct 25, 2009, titled PVUSD paid administrators $12.5 million in salary last year. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

For the past two years, as Pajaro Valley school leaders slashed $22 million in annual spending, "chop from the top" has been a frequent refrain from teachers and classified workers who have seen their pay stagnate and their ranks thin.

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Stealing from students

Vallejo, CA

#1 Oct 25, 2009
Bottom line...any admin making more than 80,000 is just stealing from the students. Why 80,000? That's called living within your means. When people want to know why schools can't afford materials, resources, athletics...look at the money being wasted here. Blame the school board because they vote on the salary packages.
Westsider

Stanford, CA

#2 Oct 25, 2009
When we finally invert the pay scale and pay the teachers more than the principals and administrators including superintendants, we will draw the best talent,and our children will get better educations. You can't forever underpay teachers and expect new blood in the field.
disabuser

United States

#3 Oct 25, 2009
Pajaro Valley Unified School District 2008-09 fiscal year salary database

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_13628860

Since: Feb 08

Santa Cruz

#4 Oct 25, 2009
Be sure to vote for the next school bond so it can join the others already on your property tax bill. New raises coming in the spring.
help

United States

#5 Oct 25, 2009
anyone know how to get to the salary database, does the link even work?
disabuser

United States

#6 Oct 25, 2009
I found 183 teachers whose total pay is $70,000+. Most of those had base pay above $70,000. There were several teachers whose base pay was above $80,000.
help

United States

#7 Oct 25, 2009
disabuser wrote:
I found 183 teachers whose total pay is $70,000+. Most of those had base pay above $70,000. There were several teachers whose base pay was above $80,000.
could you post the link to the database plz
Some Support

San Francisco, CA

#8 Oct 25, 2009
Some support must go out to Principals. I don't know all of them, but I do know some and the hours they put in around the school are amazing: nights, weekends, special events, summer. I agree that the top admins are making to much, but principals work very hard especially at the high school level. The high school principal that I know has an unending commitment to making the school the best it can be no matter how long it takes. I guarantee if you took the salary and looked at it by the hour, it is not an overpaid position.
disabuser

United States

#9 Oct 25, 2009
help wrote:
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could you post the link to the database plz
Here it is again.

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_13628860

I posted it. Can people not see that post? On the Topix system, apparently what you see in posts in not necessarily what other people see. On Friday I posted something to another story about PVUSD and it was visible only on the computer I posted it from that had my cookies.
thank you

United States

#10 Oct 25, 2009
disabuser wrote:
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Here it is again.
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_13628860
I posted it. Can people not see that post? On the Topix system, apparently what you see in posts in not necessarily what other people see. On Friday I posted something to another story about PVUSD and it was visible only on the computer I posted it from that had my cookies.
for some reason it does not come up on my computer, I can click on the post but when you click on database it doesn't do anything.
Dave

Santa Cruz, CA

#11 Oct 25, 2009
salaries in the $100k-$140k range sound reasonable for principles and top administrators, but what's going to kill taxpayers down the road are outrageous pension liabilities.

it's totally unsustainable for pension funds to payout incomes to people at 55 who may well live another 30 to 40 years.
this pension fraud must be stopped, CA is bust, the US is bust ... we owe TRILLIONS of dollars.
as life expectancy increases is not sustainable to have perfectly healthy productive people sit at home on fat pensions in their 50's ..... no one should retire before 65.

my friends father retired from the UC system at 50 ... he's been collecting $9,000 a month every since!!!(he won the lottery), that was 25 years ago..... NO ONE needs that much in retirement... 75 and $9,000 a month ??? mortgage paid, kids left home, tiny property taxes no doubt.

wake from your slumbar tax payers and put a stop to the theft of YOUR money
strange

Alamo, CA

#12 Oct 25, 2009
I never understood how people justify a pay raise or a bonus to 'keep' and employee who was responsible (solely or indirectly) for screwing up a company/business when there are so many qualified people to take their place. They act like there are no smart people anywhere else dying to do the work for a fraction of the cost. And we let them.

p.s. doesn't the President of the US make $250,000 a year? PVUSD fatties make close to that. What's wrong with this picture? At the very least, take away the car allowances. sheesh
strange

Alamo, CA

#13 Oct 25, 2009
p.s. The 'fatties' I speak of DON'T include the Principals.(they put up with a lot)
Corralitos Taxpayer

Watsonville, CA

#14 Oct 25, 2009
Faris Sabbah migrant education director $107,967

Dump this program now. Migrant ed has been a waste of funds since its inception and should have been eliminated years ago.
Het dave

United States

#15 Oct 25, 2009
Dave, please take a moment to publicize what you get paid, bonuses, retirement plan and health care options. That way people can evaluate your benefits as you evaluate others, and they can make a judgement as to whether or not those benefits are justified based on what it is you do. Wouldn't that seem fair?
Dave wrote:
salaries in the $100k-$140k range sound reasonable for principles and top administrators, but what's going to kill taxpayers down the road are outrageous pension liabilities.
it's totally unsustainable for pension funds to payout incomes to people at 55 who may well live another 30 to 40 years.
this pension fraud must be stopped, CA is bust, the US is bust ... we owe TRILLIONS of dollars.
as life expectancy increases is not sustainable to have perfectly healthy productive people sit at home on fat pensions in their 50's ..... no one should retire before 65.
my friends father retired from the UC system at 50 ... he's been collecting $9,000 a month every since!!!(he won the lottery), that was 25 years ago..... NO ONE needs that much in retirement... 75 and $9,000 a month ??? mortgage paid, kids left home, tiny property taxes no doubt.
wake from your slumbar tax payers and put a stop to the theft of YOUR money
laura shaw

Santa Cruz, CA

#16 Oct 25, 2009
I don't understand how in these times administrators can feel comfortable receiving salaries over $100,000. I hope there is some nawing guilt.
just trying to survive

Santa Cruz, CA

#17 Oct 25, 2009
Dave wrote:
salaries in the $100k-$140k range sound reasonable for principles and top administrators, but what's going to kill taxpayers down the road are outrageous pension liabilities.
it's totally unsustainable for pension funds to payout incomes to people at 55 who may well live another 30 to 40 years.
this pension fraud must be stopped, CA is bust, the US is bust ... we owe TRILLIONS of dollars.
as life expectancy increases is not sustainable to have perfectly healthy productive people sit at home on fat pensions in their 50's ..... no one should retire before 65.
my friends father retired from the UC system at 50 ... he's been collecting $9,000 a month every since!!!(he won the lottery), that was 25 years ago..... NO ONE needs that much in retirement... 75 and $9,000 a month ??? mortgage paid, kids left home, tiny property taxes no doubt.
wake from your slumbar tax payers and put a stop to the theft of YOUR money
Sorry Dave,

You must research a couple of things first.

1. The teacher retirement system is self-contained and has a history of being tremendously stable. It is a model of planning and investment. Yes, it took a hit, like all plans, due to the instability of the markets in the US... but so did every single long term investment scheme! It was the irresponsibility of others that caused this to happen. Currently, the plan is doing fine even with the hit. Teacher pensions are safe.

2. Teachers DO NOT pay into social security. Take away the pensions that they have paid into for a lifetime and they have NOTHING to fall back on.

Teachers are paid by the state and they throw all their support and trust back to the state teacher's fund. Don't stat talking about betraying them.
close

United States

#18 Oct 25, 2009
Not quite self contained, the employer does contribute on behalf of the employee based on what STRS rates are.
just trying to survive wrote:
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Sorry Dave,
You must research a couple of things first.
1. The teacher retirement system is self-contained and has a history of being tremendously stable. It is a model of planning and investment. Yes, it took a hit, like all plans, due to the instability of the markets in the US... but so did every single long term investment scheme! It was the irresponsibility of others that caused this to happen. Currently, the plan is doing fine even with the hit. Teacher pensions are safe.
2. Teachers DO NOT pay into social security. Take away the pensions that they have paid into for a lifetime and they have NOTHING to fall back on.
Teachers are paid by the state and they throw all their support and trust back to the state teacher's fund. Don't stat talking about betraying them.
Oh please

AOL

#19 Oct 25, 2009
I think the shame of it all is that while PVUSD approved big contracts and safety nets for Administrators....teachers and other staff were overlooked year after year. And that Mary Anne Mays...wow, a $10,000 yearly retirement contribution paid for by the school district?? Wow, that's certainly a "perk". And all the while the teachers and classified staff were losing their jobs and salary increases were "frozen"! Not even a "cost of living increase". Nice! Pretty darn disrespectful.
local teacher

San Jose, CA

#20 Oct 25, 2009
Yes, some administrators put in long hours, but many teachers put in long hours too. I can tell you that we do not get any car reimbursements even when traveling for school business. We also attend meetings after school and in the evening, and many of us work weekends. I have been teaching over ten years and make around $55,000. I have no paid help in the classroom and am responsible for 30 students. I have a master's degree and can speak another language. I often see administrators gong for coffee or out to lunch together. We are not able to do that during the school day because we are teaching students. Shouldn't the money go where the students are?

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