Mo. school prohibits gay student from bringing boyfriend to prom

Feb 14, 2013 Full story: KMOV-TV Saint Louis 119

A small southeast Missouri school district is facing a threat of legal action over a policy barring same-sex couples from attending prom together.

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hmmm

Sikeston, MO

#1 Feb 14, 2013
GOOD FOR THEM! This world is under such sin.
Guest

Sikeston, MO

#2 Feb 14, 2013
To whoever is trying to take legal action:
Oh well. If the kid doesn't like it, don't go to the dance or go alone and dance with someone there. Seriously.

God is probably so hurt and ashamed by the way our world is.
Guest

Saint Louis, MO

#4 Feb 14, 2013
The church says it's wrong. If it's a public school there is separation of church and state and it's illegal to prohibit that.
Decency

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Feb 14, 2013
God doesn't care about our world, as God doesn't exist. However, bigotry is unfortunately quite real. Despite this backwards part of the country's best attempts at clinging to antiquated nonsense dressed up as "morality" and based on fairy tales, the world will keep marching on and sooner or later equality will come to the Midwest, even Sikeston.

What do you really think you gain from trying to hurt others? There is nothing in your religion suggesting you should use it as a weapon to further your bigotry; Jesus never ran around bullying gay kids in any bible story.
Hmmm

Saint Charles, MO

#6 Feb 14, 2013
Not that you'll listen, but it's not "bullying" to enforce a standing rule that prom is for diverse gender couples. It's not bullying when a hospital will not let me see a patient outside of visiting hours because I'm not clergy or medical personnel. It's not bullying when a store with a no shirt, no shoes no service policy posted won't let me into the store with no shirt and/or no shoes on. It's not bullying when an organization established for the purpose of providing scholarships to African-Americans, Latinos, or women will not allow me to apply for one as a white male. I could go on. Everytime someone wants an exception to established policy made for himself, and does not get an affirmative answer, he cries that he's being bullied, and that' just not so.
Decency

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Feb 14, 2013
The courts consistently rule against discrimination based on sexual orientation by these schools. Lets examine your examples shall we?

Hospital visitor: Your rights are not being infringed, visiting hours are not based on an unalterable aspect of your being such as race or sexual orientation.

Shirt/shoes store policy: Your rights are not being infringed. All people, regardless of race, religion, or sexual orientation are held to the same standards of dress.

Scholarships: Those organizations are either privately funded or publicly funded. Private organizations can use their money for whatever they wish within the law. Publicly funded scholarships are not discriminatory as there are scholarships for every group of people, even white males. Further, your example here is based on race and gender and shows a lack of understanding of the discrimination that minorities and women still face.

As for the issue at hand, this policy gives privilege to heterosexual students, while denying the same privileges to gay students simply for the reason that they are gay. This is discrimination based on sexual orientation, and not acceptable. Would you think it okay if they discriminated based on race or sex?

Would you care to go on then? Or are you done?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#8 Feb 14, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
Not that you'll listen, but it's not "bullying" to enforce a standing rule that prom is for diverse gender couples.
You're right, it's not bullying, that would be narrow-minded bigotry.
Hmmm wrote:
It's not bullying when a hospital will not let me see a patient outside of visiting hours because I'm not clergy or medical personnel.
Whoever said it was?
Hmmm wrote:
It's not bullying when a store with a no shirt, no shoes no service policy posted won't let me into the store with no shirt and/or no shoes on.
No one ever said that was bullying either. It's actually the law in most places.
Hmmm wrote:
It's not bullying when an organization established for the purpose of providing scholarships to African-Americans, Latinos, or women will not allow me to apply for one as a white male. I could go on.
I'm not sure why anyone in their right mind would call that bullying either.
Hmmm wrote:
Everytime someone wants an exception to established policy made for himself, and does not get an affirmative answer, he cries that he's being bullied, and that' just not so.
No one in this story is crying that they are being bullied, but they are being discriminated against in an incredibly ugly prejudicial manner. No one is asking for an exception, they just want to be treated as any other student and bring the date of their choice to the prom/ How would you feel if they wanted to exclude you and your date because those in charge want to show you just how bigoted they can be? You'd be screaming high holy heck too.

Since: Jul 12

Sikeston, MO

#9 Feb 14, 2013
Decency wrote:
There is nothing in your religion suggesting you should use it as a weapon to further your bigotry; Jesus never ran around bullying gay kids in any bible story.
Strange that an athiest (you said earlier in this quote that there is no God) would know more about a religion than a believer.

While it is true that there is no New Testament record of where Jesus explicitly stated that homosexuality is wrong, He did in fact condemn the behavior.

And He answered and said to them,“Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’“and said,‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’”(Matt. 19:4.)

Jesus was born and lived under the Law of Moses, and He endorsed the Law of Moses, and the Law of Moses explicitly condemned homosexuality.

“For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”(John 5:46-47.)

What did the Law of Moses say about homosexuality?

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.(Lev. 18:22)

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.(Lev 20:13)

There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.(Deut. 23:17)

http://www.thebible.net/modules.php...

http://www.biblegateway.com/
Decency

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Feb 14, 2013
A Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>
Strange that an athiest (you said earlier in this quote that there is no God) would know more about a religion than a believer.
While it is true that there is no New Testament record of where Jesus explicitly stated that homosexuality is wrong, He did in fact condemn the behavior.
And He answered and said to them,“Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’“and said,‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’”(Matt. 19:4.)
Jesus was born and lived under the Law of Moses, and He endorsed the Law of Moses, and the Law of Moses explicitly condemned homosexuality.
“For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”(John 5:46-47.)
What did the Law of Moses say about homosexuality?
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.(Lev. 18:22)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.(Lev 20:13)
There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.(Deut. 23:17)
http://www.thebible.net/modules.php...
http://www.biblegateway.com/
Is it so strange? I'm an atheist because I actually read the bible. Time was, I blindly bought into the faith. Reading the actual "good" book is an excellent wake up call to stop drinking the kool-aid.

I've seen all your verses plenty of times. I'm a fan of this verse:

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." (John 8:7) The character of Jesus didn't seem to approve of the actions of the self-righteous and those that would distort his word for their own agenda.

But let me ask you this? Do you believe we should all follow your bible's word? If so, do you then believe that gays should be put to death? And if you believe they should be killed as is instructed in Leviticus, then how do you reconcile that with the 6th Commandment?

This is all irrelevant, mind you. Separation of church and state dictates your religious beliefs can not be endorsed by a government organization by the enforcement of your religious rules.
David Gilmore

O Fallon, MO

#11 Feb 14, 2013
C'mon y'all. We all know there's no such thing as God and that we're just a bags of meat, stuck on a rock, floating through space. I know that's some scary shit, but we have to accept it, because it's reality.

It does not matter one bit if this gay couple goes to prom, just like it does not matter if the sun comes up tomorrow. I'm sorry to have to be the bearer of bad news, but your little lives are meaningless, just accept it.
Richard Montgomery

O Fallon, MO

#12 Feb 14, 2013
A Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>
Strange that an athiest (you said earlier in this quote that there is no God) would know more about a religion than a believer.
While it is true that there is no New Testament record of where Jesus explicitly stated that homosexuality is wrong, He did in fact condemn the behavior.
And He answered and said to them,“Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’“and said,‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’”(Matt. 19:4.)
Jesus was born and lived under the Law of Moses, and He endorsed the Law of Moses, and the Law of Moses explicitly condemned homosexuality.
“For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”(John 5:46-47.)
What did the Law of Moses say about homosexuality?
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.(Lev. 18:22)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.(Lev 20:13)
There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.(Deut. 23:17)
http://www.thebible.net/modules.php...
http://www.biblegateway.com/
You actually believe that? You're an idiot! Science has proven that it's impossible for all humans to derive from Adam and Eve. Now, go bury your head in the sand until you're dead! Eventually, you and you're obsolete book will not matter and life will progress without religion, superstition and nonsense.
John Neeley

O Fallon, MO

#13 Feb 14, 2013
hmmm wrote:
GOOD FOR THEM! This world is under such sin.
Shut up, before I come to your home and F you in the A, until your heart pumps sh*t!

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#14 Feb 14, 2013
Boy the chriSTAIN love just keeps coming

Hey kid.... burn the school down

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#15 Feb 14, 2013
A Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>
Strange that an athiest (you said earlier in this quote that there is no God) would know more about a religion than a believer.
While it is true that there is no New Testament record of where Jesus explicitly stated that homosexuality is wrong, He did in fact condemn the behavior.
And He answered and said to them,“Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’“and said,‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’”(Matt. 19:4.)
Jesus was born and lived under the Law of Moses, and He endorsed the Law of Moses, and the Law of Moses explicitly condemned homosexuality.
“For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”(John 5:46-47.)
What did the Law of Moses say about homosexuality?
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.(Lev. 18:22)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.(Lev 20:13)
There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.(Deut. 23:17)
http://www.thebible.net/modules.php...
http://www.biblegateway.com/
Who's Jesus?
John Neeley

O Fallon, MO

#16 Feb 14, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Who's Jesus?
I know! F me, right?

Since: Jul 12

Sikeston, MO

#17 Feb 14, 2013
Richard Montgomery wrote:
<quoted text>
You actually believe that? You're an idiot! Science has proven that it's impossible for all humans to derive from Adam and Eve. Now, go bury your head in the sand until you're dead! Eventually, you and you're obsolete book will not matter and life will progress without religion, superstition and nonsense.
You're obviously NOT the Richard Montgomery that I know.

No Adam and Eve? Where do anthropologists say Homo Sapiens came from? There had to be a first mating pair, otherwise we wouldn't be here. There may not have been an Adam and Eve as recorded in the Bible, but the human race as we know it HAD TO originate from an ancestrial mother and father. That is, unless you're one of the nutcases that believe we were placed here by extra-terrestrials.

As far as my 'obsolete book', it's survived tyrants, dictators, athiests, Nazis, Facists and Communists. It will been around a lot longer than irreligious libertines like you.

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#18 Feb 14, 2013
A Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>
You're obviously NOT the Richard Montgomery that I know.
No Adam and Eve? Where do anthropologists say Homo Sapiens came from? There had to be a first mating pair, otherwise we wouldn't be here. There may not have been an Adam and Eve as recorded in the Bible, but the human race as we know it HAD TO originate from an ancestrial mother and father. That is, unless you're one of the nutcases that believe we were placed here by extra-terrestrials.
As far as my 'obsolete book', it's survived tyrants, dictators, athiests, Nazis, Facists and Communists. It will been around a lot longer than irreligious libertines like you.
keep your god at home or in your church where it belongs... keep him away from my children...period
John Neeley

O Fallon, MO

#19 Feb 14, 2013
A Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>
You're obviously NOT the Richard Montgomery that I know.
No Adam and Eve? Where do anthropologists say Homo Sapiens came from? There had to be a first mating pair, otherwise we wouldn't be here. There may not have been an Adam and Eve as recorded in the Bible, but the human race as we know it HAD TO originate from an ancestrial mother and father. That is, unless you're one of the nutcases that believe we were placed here by extra-terrestrials.
As far as my 'obsolete book', it's survived tyrants, dictators, athiests, Nazis, Facists and Communists. It will been around a lot longer than irreligious libertines like you.
In science it often happens that scientists say,'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time someting like that happened in politics or religion.-Carl Sagan
Decency

Saint Louis, MO

#20 Feb 14, 2013
A Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>
You're obviously NOT the Richard Montgomery that I know.
No Adam and Eve? Where do anthropologists say Homo Sapiens came from? There had to be a first mating pair, otherwise we wouldn't be here. There may not have been an Adam and Eve as recorded in the Bible, but the human race as we know it HAD TO originate from an ancestrial mother and father. That is, unless you're one of the nutcases that believe we were placed here by extra-terrestrials.
As far as my 'obsolete book', it's survived tyrants, dictators, athiests, Nazis, Facists and Communists. It will been around a lot longer than irreligious libertines like you.
Since I did not get a reply the first time, I'm going to ask you this again:

Do you believe we should all follow your bible's word? If so, do you then believe that gays should be put to death? And if you believe they should be killed as is instructed in Leviticus, then how do you reconcile that with the 6th Commandment?
A TRUE Conservative

O Fallon, MO

#21 Feb 14, 2013
THIS should put an end to this discussion...

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