Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 134,260

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#87440 Sep 23, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
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So you think somehow Obama could be declared as a dictator of america. I see that has no chance. Now could a Democrate win again and again possibly. How can U.S. be like germany? Are we trying conqure the world, well we do seem to be policeman of the world.
I guess it is possible that some suits could come to your door and say submit to the supreme leader or die. Not saying it could not happen but sure there would be civil war here.
I think the republicans would like to be dictators with all that God stuff and showing off those shiny crosses around their necks.
I think YAA would be ok with a relgious republican supreme
dictator to start the thousand year reign of Jesus.
Where did you read there would be a republican anything in the millenium?
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#87441 Sep 23, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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I say that like it is a Fantasy that Always devolves into mass graves and a totalitarian rule.... Always... Yes it's a nice feel good Idea but until you line everyone up and put a chip in their head that controls the Human Id that fantasy view Always places power in to the hands of the few or one, That Power Always corrupts and we end up with Mengele, Hitler, Pol Pot and gas chambers, crematoriums and killing fields.... All shouting at the top of their lungs "It's for the Common Good"
Socialism requires perfect people at every level of society, Even in small scale it quickly devolves into ruled and being ruled, Controlled and the Controllers..
Kinda like Occupy Wallstreet!
What a fiasco!
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#87442 Sep 23, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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I'm saying that the Process sets precedent.. Do I know if Obama would do such... No.. But I am of the opinion that his elitist mind set, socialistic views and what I see as a narcissistic world view that given the right condition that he could evolve into what you speak of... I can think of several scenarios that could trigger such... His statements about needing a US Security Force as well armed and funded as the US Military, the moving of the 1st Inf to US soil with orders to support police in-case of a National Emergency, The ability to shut down social media by executive order all put into place a Conditional situation where a all out breakout in the Middle east could lead to a declaration of Marshal Law.. And a first step into the abyss.... Of course it would all be for the Common Good.....
Great posts!
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#87443 Sep 23, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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Nope... I actually have taken the time to read the assorted peoples own words, looked up their writings and seen them speak on camera...
Rev Wright is a Racist... His sermons and writings speak for them selves...
Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn are Domestic Terrorist that set bombs and attempted Murder of police officers...
David Axelrod was raised a communist with a mother that wrote for a communist newspaper in Chicago.
Carl Davidson was a Maoist and open Communist
Jeff Jones was the co founder of the Weathermen and Co Author of the Presidents Stimulus bill
And the list can Go on and On with Noted Socialists, Communists, Domestic Terrorists and Criminals... And I can read in every case a long history of Associations with each and everyone of them to Obama and his rise through their support and financial input.
The Obama's have supplied a narrative of his life that is just not true... He was not a poor black man just helping the needy... When he was Helping the Needy he didn't live with them, he lived in an exclusive neighborhood in Chicago and took cases for slum landlords in the areas he professed to serve... He Attended prestigious universities and received financial support from Khalid al-Mansour while at Harvard... We don't know how he received any other funding to attend such schools because those records are not provided.
But any rational individual would question how an admitted dope smoking, coke using high school party guy went being raised by a communist mother, sent to live with admitted socialist grand parents moved through the Associations of his past to become President of the United States.... His Today Narrative does not ring true...
I'm not a big Romney supporter, Was never a big Bush supporter and would love to see a Individual running for office that I really could rally behind.... But Obama is someone that I could not support and would not vote for if he was running against Fill in The Blank... I see him as one of the most dangerous people in America to the concept of Individual Liberty....
Great post!
And he called you stupid!
LOL
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#87444 Sep 23, 2012
for real wrote:
As I said before , give me the other option of none of the above.
We know what we had...
Give the new guy a chance!
Can't be any worse!
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#87445 Sep 23, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
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There is a dedicated web site called foxnewslies.net Does that count?
Nope! don't count at all!
They have an agenda, and I feel I may need to clean my computer
just having visited that site... Ugh!
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#87446 Sep 23, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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Nothingness did not explode and here we are... A Quantum of Energy converted some of it's energy into matter... That was Not Nothingness.. And Here we are took at a minimum 14 Billion Years..
Just because you do not understand something does not mean it isn't true.... For an example I'll bet you do not understand how quantum processor works... But it does...
Yep!
A Huuuumungus hadron collider with more pore than God slammed several paricles together, and POOOOOF!
Here we are!
Where did the collider go Afterwards???
LOL
Interesting

Butler, KY

#87447 Sep 23, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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Actually I see it as a bit more than chance.. It's the product of self assembly of particles with inertial mass that produce em waves through the remainder of the quanta of energy that the particles with inertial mass converted from, through the process of gravitational attraction and em wave form heterodyneing forming ever more complex structures over the period of 16 billion years or more... And it's Not Faith... It's My postulate based on evidence and understanding of the principles involved, subject to change at any point new evidence is found, verified, validated and shown testable... Faith has nothing to do with it..
Do you know what would be really interesting? Take your verified, validated and testable postulate to the lab and produce a single self replicating, living blade of grass. Your added intellect should take out the time factor. Or maybe just construct a seed that will produce that same blade of grass. I think that you will find that the process is a bit more complex than similar geometry and attractive forces.
But, thanks for the laugh anyway.
jay

Bronx, NY

#87448 Sep 23, 2012
Couldn't hurt that's for sure
trusted

Morgantown, KY

#87449 Sep 23, 2012
You know , I really fear going to He11 but , what I also fear , is that I will be there with so many other stupid people. Know living thru life with them tends to be enough, but spending eternity with those , who are uncaring, or just plain stupid , sort of drives me to try to change. I said stupid, knowing better but will not see different.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#87450 Sep 23, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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Yep and as they are allowed to fester those societies are reaching a point where they tip.... Many countries that have allowed socialist policies to grow are so in debt, so over burdened with dependent classes that they are one major event away from collapse... Being buoyed up by others.... In the case of America if that tipping point is reached there are no countries that will or can come to our rescue due to scales of economy....
Socialism is the drug of a dieing junky....
Can you name any government of any country that does not have a socialist program?
trusted

Morgantown, KY

#87451 Sep 23, 2012
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>We know what we had...
Give the new guy a chance!
Can't be any worse!
Wait a moment, things could always be worse, and I am sure they will become just that before better. Only one leader who can make things better here on earth , and I dont think he is in either party to be honest.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#87452 Sep 23, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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Please provide a couple of specific example of Fox News Lies.. Not examples of Political speakers... But of a Story where Fox News has put out a Lie....
I found this challenge interesting. Fox News is not a trustworthy news source mainly because they have an overtly right wing bias yet they claim not to. When your network puts out 24 hours of Conservative opinion day after day with a little news peppered here and there it is difficult to swallow the idea that it is "fair and balanced".

But the idea that they "lie" is probably not quite right all the time. Instead, they exaggerate and confuse. For example, if you Google "fox news lies" you get a website devoted to pointing out instances of "lies". Here's an example:

http://foxnewslies.net/...

"During a segment on the Fox News late night program Red Eye, Fox News Contributor (and former Bush White House mouthpiece) Dana Perino made the false claim that ABC’s Diane Sawyer had asked Gov. Mitt Romney about putting his dog Seamus on the roof of his car.“That was her first question,” Perino claimed....According to a transcript of the interview, the question about Seamus was the 23rd one asked."

Now personally I think Perino was simply exaggerating to make it seem like Sawyer was frivolous. But clearly the dog question was not the first one asked.

It's a silly little example, but this stuff adds up.

And here's a nice YouTube clip splicing together segments by Glen Beck (commentary) and Chris Wallace (news). It demonstrates that the "news" segments on Fox News are peppered with political commentary and opinion.



I'm sure Fox News has news that is correct and useful. But the way they sandwich everything between political blowhards is unpalatable to me and raises very real, well founded suspicions that it is less about news and more about selling me something I'm not interested in buying.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#87453 Sep 23, 2012
trusted wrote:
You know , I really fear going to He11 but , what I also fear , is that I will be there with so many other stupid people. Know living thru life with them tends to be enough, but spending eternity with those , who are uncaring, or just plain stupid , sort of drives me to try to change. I said stupid, knowing better but will not see different.
And your proof that there is a Hell or that there is some "spirit" that lives forever? Oh, please do not use the THREAT that was used on desert nomads who had no escape from the desert heat.
ONE) ether the intense heat would burn off nerve endings and we would not feel heat or we would be fireproof and heat would not matter
TWO) if there is some "spirit" it is not physical and physical fire would not effect it....
The THREAT of Hell is no different than the THREAT of death that the christian cult used to force people to join their cult. Do you respond well to threats? Are you such a coward that you believe some story the desert goat herders made up to elevate themselves above you? Do you even understand that the christian religion is a con based on the Jewish con that justified their blood lust, perversions, and theft of others wealth?
Nuts

Lexington, KY

#87454 Sep 23, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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Actually I see it as a bit more than chance.. It's the product of self assembly of particles with inertial mass that produce em waves through the remainder of the quanta of energy that the particles with inertial mass converted from, through the process of gravitational attraction and em wave form heterodyneing forming ever more complex structures over the period of 16 billion years or more... And it's Not Faith... It's My postulate based on evidence and understanding of the principles involved, subject to change at any point new evidence is found, verified, validated and shown testable... Faith has nothing to do with it..
Ok. Do you care to tell me where those particles and inertial mass originated from? They magically appeared right. Something had to create them in the first place?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#87455 Sep 23, 2012
what wrote:
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So, your faith is in time and chance. We're here, we're complex beyond our ability to understand and time and chance brought this level of order out of chaos.
I presume "what" is an advocate of ID.
A frailty of the religious argument against a rational universe is that many appear to have no concept of a world view that does not revolve around emotional faith. Is there some structure of the brain that inhibits critical analysis and error checking?(Personally, I think that partisanship and religion are 2 peas in a pod, as well.) Is the very idea that someone does not replace a faith in God with something else literally unthinkable to them? Maybe that group should seek protection through the first amendment AND the ADA.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#87456 Sep 23, 2012
Nuts wrote:
<quoted text>Ok. Do you care to tell me where those particles and inertial mass originated from? They magically appeared right. Something had to create them in the first place?
Really? Why did "something" have to create them? What something "created" your god? Did he just "POOF" magically appear? Was he always? Why can he exist to create everything but energy and matter had to be created?
Shouldnt we worship what created your mythical god?(but then we would be worshiping jewish people because they created the god you worship)
Hey, instead of worshiping the jewish god why not worship the God your ancestors worshiped? The christian cult can not murder you for that like they did 200 years ago
But I tell you, if you do not believe in Santa Claus you will spend forever in Haiti!

“Devourer of Light”

Since: Aug 12

Hell

#87457 Sep 23, 2012
God the creator. Creator of God?
Nuts

Lexington, KY

#87458 Sep 23, 2012
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Really? Why did "something" have to create them? What something "created" your god? Did he just "POOF" magically appear? Was he always? Why can he exist to create everything but energy and matter had to be created?
Shouldnt we worship what created your mythical god?(but then we would be worshiping jewish people because they created the god you worship)
Hey, instead of worshiping the jewish god why not worship the God your ancestors worshiped? The christian cult can not murder you for that like they did 200 years ago
But I tell you, if you do not believe in Santa Claus you will spend forever in Haiti!
I think you took this as I was attacking you, but I did not mean to and I am sorry if that is the way it sounded. I am not saying you are right or wrong. I do believe in God, yet I question everything. I am just as curious and want to learn others beliefs and why they believe them. You are right, I want to know where the God I believe in came from, however it just seems more logical to me that a God could create a particle than vice versa is all.
cavermax

Magnolia, KY

#87459 Sep 23, 2012
kellerman wrote:
It's not appropriate to teach religion in school. we live in a diverse society and can't teach all religions in schools. One has to keep these separate, it's up to the parents to inform their children on religious upbringing. I thought this issue was long solved, but i see it keeps coming back up.
Then we should stop teaching evolution as well since it is in reality a religion. It takes inordinate amounts of faith to believe that we spontaneously came into existence from inanimate matter. And no matter how much the scientists tout their evidence promoting evolution, when it is looked upon in the grand scale their evidence is minuscule and pathetically flimsy. Freedom of religion is truly freedom of religion only when it includes all creation theories.

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