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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 174815 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.pixoto.com/quantumm

#87380 Sep 21, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
<quoted text>
First German Reich had been the Holy Roman Empire which was largely German.
The second Reich had been the German Empire which was established when Prussia brought all the other German principalities under her sway in the 19th century. It was abolished in favor of a republic after the First World War.
When Hitler put an end to that republic, he felt he was returning Germany to the imperial position which was hers by right, hence it was the third Reich.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_Hitler_call... 'Third_Reich'#ixzz279j2QXYq
I'm fully aware of that... But the population allowing power to be held by an authoritarian government during the Wiemar Republic was the Socialist movement that called for greater Union participation, Socialized medicine, and assorted Social Programs that was fed to the public under the guise of National Socialism.. Which is basically Fascism allowing him the power to quickly become a totalitarian ruler.. But make no Mistake, He was a Socialist..

Gregor Strasser, National Socialist theologian, said:

We National Socialists are enemies, deadly enemies, of the present capitalist system with its exploitation of the economically weak and we are resolved under all circumstances to destroy this system.

Von Mises in his Human Action said:

There are two patterns for the realization of socialism. The first pattern (we may call it the Lenin or Russian pattern).... the second pattern (we may call it the Hindenburg or German Pattern) nominally and seemingly preserves private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary markets, prices, wages, and interest rates. There are, however, no longer entrepreneurs, but only shop managers bound to obey unconditionally the orders issued by government.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#87381 Sep 21, 2012
voiceinthewilderness wrote:
There is nothing wrong with teaching The Bible in schools, so far as it is presented as a historical book, and the instructor leaves their personal religious bias at the door. The teacher can also say, "some folks say, or some believe that.." just to educate the kids.
If kids don't learn history today, including Biblical history, they will be doomed to repeat the mistakes of our forefathers... and they won't learn what works.. things like respect, discipline. News Flash.. many of these things are in the Bible! Go figure!
Sure, as long as the history of pagans is taught as well.....

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.pixoto.com/quantumm

#87382 Sep 21, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
<quoted text>
First German Reich had been the Holy Roman Empire which was largely German.
The second Reich had been the German Empire which was established when Prussia brought all the other German principalities under her sway in the 19th century. It was abolished in favor of a republic after the First World War.
When Hitler put an end to that republic, he felt he was returning Germany to the imperial position which was hers by right, hence it was the third Reich.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_Hitler_call... 'Third_Reich'#ixzz279j2QXYq
In Hitlers own Words....

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#87383 Sep 21, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
In Hitlers own Words....
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler
You say that like it is a bad thing. Shouldnt we do things for the common good of ALL the people?
spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#87384 Sep 21, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm fully aware of that... But the population allowing power to be held by an authoritarian government during the Wiemar Republic was the Socialist movement that called for greater Union participation, Socialized medicine, and assorted Social Programs that was fed to the public under the guise of National Socialism.. Which is basically Fascism allowing him the power to quickly become a totalitarian ruler.. But make no Mistake, He was a Socialist..
Gregor Strasser, National Socialist theologian, said:
We National Socialists are enemies, deadly enemies, of the present capitalist system with its exploitation of the economically weak and we are resolved under all circumstances to destroy this system.
Von Mises in his Human Action said:
There are two patterns for the realization of socialism. The first pattern (we may call it the Lenin or Russian pattern).... the second pattern (we may call it the Hindenburg or German Pattern) nominally and seemingly preserves private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary markets, prices, wages, and interest rates. There are, however, no longer entrepreneurs, but only shop managers bound to obey unconditionally the orders issued by government.
So you think somehow Obama could be declared as a dictator of america. I see that has no chance. Now could a Democrate win again and again possibly. How can U.S. be like germany? Are we trying conqure the world, well we do seem to be policeman of the world.

I guess it is possible that some suits could come to your door and say submit to the supreme leader or die. Not saying it could not happen but sure there would be civil war here.

I think the republicans would like to be dictators with all that God stuff and showing off those shiny crosses around their necks.

I think YAA would be ok with a relgious republican supreme
dictator to start the thousand year reign of Jesus.
spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#87385 Sep 21, 2012
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>
"God created Arakis to train the faithful."
Religion like mental illness will always be a scourge upon mankind.
We Fremen have a saying,one cannot go against the word of God.

He who controls the spice, controls the universe!
spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#87386 Sep 21, 2012
Manipuate the tax code?

By Kim Dixon, Reuters
3 hours ago

WASHINGTON Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann, gave about 30 percent of their $13.7 million in 2011 income to charity, but did not take the full write-off, making their effective tax rate higher.

The move, which was contained in Romney's 2011 tax return released on Friday, was described by tax experts as unusual and by the top Senate Democrat as manipulation of the tax code.

"I was in private practice for 40 years and don't know that I ever had a client who said,'I don't want to take all my deductions,'" said David Kautter of American University's Kogod Tax Center, who spent his career at accounting giant Ernst & Young.

Kautter estimated that if Romney had taken the full charitable tax break, his effective tax rate would have been about 10.5 percent. The return showed Romney paid an effective rate of 14.1 percent last year.

During a Republican presidential debate in January, Romney said, "I don't think you want someone as the candidate for president who pays more taxes than he owes."

Yet Romney did just that.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#87387 Sep 21, 2012
'It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.'

--Douglas Adams
;)
the dude

Cincinnati, OH

#87388 Sep 21, 2012
It's Freedom of Religion-not fredom from religion- if you don't like my faith, take it up with the Lord

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.pixoto.com/quantumm

#87389 Sep 21, 2012
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>You say that like it is a bad thing. Shouldnt we do things for the common good of ALL the people?
I say that like it is a Fantasy that Always devolves into mass graves and a totalitarian rule.... Always... Yes it's a nice feel good Idea but until you line everyone up and put a chip in their head that controls the Human Id that fantasy view Always places power in to the hands of the few or one, That Power Always corrupts and we end up with Mengele, Hitler, Pol Pot and gas chambers, crematoriums and killing fields.... All shouting at the top of their lungs "It's for the Common Good"

Socialism requires perfect people at every level of society, Even in small scale it quickly devolves into ruled and being ruled, Controlled and the Controllers..

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.pixoto.com/quantumm

#87390 Sep 21, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think somehow Obama could be declared as a dictator of america. I see that has no chance. Now could a Democrate win again and again possibly. How can U.S. be like germany? Are we trying conqure the world, well we do seem to be policeman of the world.
I guess it is possible that some suits could come to your door and say submit to the supreme leader or die. Not saying it could not happen but sure there would be civil war here.
I think the republicans would like to be dictators with all that God stuff and showing off those shiny crosses around their necks.
I think YAA would be ok with a relgious republican supreme
dictator to start the thousand year reign of Jesus.
I'm saying that the Process sets precedent.. Do I know if Obama would do such... No.. But I am of the opinion that his elitist mind set, socialistic views and what I see as a narcissistic world view that given the right condition that he could evolve into what you speak of... I can think of several scenarios that could trigger such... His statements about needing a US Security Force as well armed and funded as the US Military, the moving of the 1st Inf to US soil with orders to support police in-case of a National Emergency, The ability to shut down social media by executive order all put into place a Conditional situation where a all out breakout in the Middle east could lead to a declaration of Marshal Law.. And a first step into the abyss.... Of course it would all be for the Common Good.....

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.pixoto.com/quantumm

#87391 Sep 21, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
Manipuate the tax code?
By Kim Dixon, Reuters
3 hours ago
WASHINGTON Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann, gave about 30 percent of their $13.7 million in 2011 income to charity, but did not take the full write-off, making their effective tax rate higher.
The move, which was contained in Romney's 2011 tax return released on Friday, was described by tax experts as unusual and by the top Senate Democrat as manipulation of the tax code.
"I was in private practice for 40 years and don't know that I ever had a client who said,'I don't want to take all my deductions,'" said David Kautter of American University's Kogod Tax Center, who spent his career at accounting giant Ernst & Young.
Kautter estimated that if Romney had taken the full charitable tax break, his effective tax rate would have been about 10.5 percent. The return showed Romney paid an effective rate of 14.1 percent last year.
During a Republican presidential debate in January, Romney said, "I don't think you want someone as the candidate for president who pays more taxes than he owes."
Yet Romney did just that.
Last week the left was screaming he paid no taxes, now they are screaming he paid to much taxes... And why would anyone wonder why a person would not want to release them... It's a No Win situation if you do...

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#87392 Sep 22, 2012
the dude wrote:
It's Freedom of Religion-not fredom from religion- if you don't like my faith, take it up with the Lord
MY right to freedom OF religion makes me free FROM your religion. Get the concept?
I do not care about YOUR faith until you cross the line and try to FORCE your beliefs on others, which the christian cult does.
A simple question, do you know anything about your god and your jesus?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#87393 Sep 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitler was brought to power through Socialism
Hitler was a totalitarian brought to power through fascist authoritarianism.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#87394 Sep 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Last week the left was screaming he paid no taxes, now they are screaming he paid to much taxes... And why would anyone wonder why a person would not want to release them... It's a No Win situation if you do...
In that case, since he has nothing to win by not releasing returns, what is his problem?

The evidence so far is that he's been straight on his taxes - but the evidence only covers a couple years. For me the issue isn't what percentage he paid, but who his associates have been.
Those particular individuals of "the left" can scream all they want - their returns have stories of their own to tell.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#87395 Sep 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
I say that like it is a Fantasy that Always devolves into mass graves and a totalitarian rule.... Always... Yes it's a nice feel good Idea but until you line everyone up and put a chip in their head that controls the Human Id that fantasy view Always places power in to the hands of the few or one, That Power Always corrupts and we end up with Mengele, Hitler, Pol Pot and gas chambers, crematoriums and killing fields.... All shouting at the top of their lungs "It's for the Common Good"
Socialism requires perfect people at every level of society, Even in small scale it quickly devolves into ruled and being ruled, Controlled and the Controllers..
We've already had "small scale" socialism for a century. Government controls the key parts of industry and society. DOT, FCC, DOE, etc. regulate\control transportation, electrical distribution, communication, education....

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#87396 Sep 22, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
Manipuate the tax code?
By Kim Dixon, Reuters
3 hours ago
WASHINGTON Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann, gave about 30 percent of their $13.7 million in 2011 income to charity, but did not take the full write-off, making their effective tax rate higher.
The move, which was contained in Romney's 2011 tax return released on Friday, was described by tax experts as unusual and by the top Senate Democrat as manipulation of the tax code.
"I was in private practice for 40 years and don't know that I ever had a client who said,'I don't want to take all my deductions,'" said David Kautter of American University's Kogod Tax Center, who spent his career at accounting giant Ernst & Young.
Kautter estimated that if Romney had taken the full charitable tax break, his effective tax rate would have been about 10.5 percent. The return showed Romney paid an effective rate of 14.1 percent last year.
During a Republican presidential debate in January, Romney said, "I don't think you want someone as the candidate for president who pays more taxes than he owes."
Yet Romney did just that.
Romney didn't take a salary as governor or from the Olympics, either. The personal practice of "take what you need and leave the rest" is not a villainy.
well

United States

#87397 Sep 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
I say that like it is a Fantasy that Always devolves into mass graves and a totalitarian rule.... Always... Yes it's a nice feel good Idea but until you line everyone up and put a chip in their head that controls the Human Id that fantasy view Always places power in to the hands of the few or one, That Power Always corrupts and we end up with Mengele, Hitler, Pol Pot and gas chambers, crematoriums and killing fields.... All shouting at the top of their lungs "It's for the Common Good"
Socialism requires perfect people at every level of society, Even in small scale it quickly devolves into ruled and being ruled, Controlled and the Controllers..
Socialism is good, if you're a honey bee. If you're a human then not so much. A system based on individual rights makes sense for a species of individual free thinkers. Misplaced compassion seems to be screwing up the whole individual rights concept. A guy has the right to sit on his ass all day if he wants to, but with individual rights comes individual responsibility. You have to be allowed to suffer the consequenses of your decisions.
The only thing that I really want from government is to be left alone, unless I need a cop, a soldier or a fireman. I know there is an arguement about roads. But, just consider that those government financed interstates may be one of the main reasons for the rapid economic growth of the country that created the top heavy economic structure that has caused such a rapid consumption of natural reasources and polluting of our environment.

Equality is the lie that governments use to sell their populations socialism.
well

United States

#87398 Sep 22, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
We've already had "small scale" socialism for a century. Government controls the key parts of industry and society. DOT, FCC, DOE, etc. regulate\control transportation, electrical distribution, communication, education....
I haven't read the thread. What brand of socialism are you advocating?
well

United States

#87399 Sep 22, 2012
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
'It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.'
--Douglas Adams
;)
So, treat the presidency like jury duty?

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