Fowler School discussion will be Feb. 11

Fowler School discussion will be Feb. 11

There are 88 comments on the Watertown Daily Times story from Jan 25, 2013, titled Fowler School discussion will be Feb. 11. In it, Watertown Daily Times reports that:

Whether to close Fowler Elementary School will be the sole focus of a public forum of the Board of Education on Feb.

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Moron Wrangler

East Syracuse, NY

#81 Jan 31, 2013
You clearly don't have the aptitude to grasp several points I made. For instance, I never claimed children were going to the meeting. I was inferring that they would witness their parents acting like babies at home. I mistakenly gave you the benefit of the doubt that you'd automatically pick that up. I was wrong. Your children are doomed.
bonzai tree

Gouverneur, NY

#82 Feb 1, 2013
Moron Wrangler wrote:
You clearly don't have the aptitude to grasp several points I made. For instance, I never claimed children were going to the meeting. I was inferring that they would witness their parents acting like babies at home. I mistakenly gave you the benefit of the doubt that you'd automatically pick that up. I was wrong. Your children are doomed.
Wow you are a moron. From what I am reading you are one who cannot grasp too much from people's statements. Just because you may act like a child at home it doesn't mean other do. Nice threat again on people's children. I have to agree you should drop the "wrangler" as the shoe fits perfect cinderella.
school taxpayer

Ithaca, NY

#83 Feb 1, 2013
bonzai tree wrote:
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Wow you are a moron. From what I am reading you are one who cannot grasp too much from people's statements. Just because you may act like a child at home it doesn't mean other do. Nice threat again on people's children. I have to agree you should drop the "wrangler" as the shoe fits perfect cinderella.
What's up with all these Fowler parents on this thread, "calling people names" and "being so mean and sarcastic" to those who support the closing. Moron Wrangler is right, your children will know the negative feelings that their parents have about the other schools, and also they can see the bad attitude that their parents have. It is a bad influence!! The name calling is very immature.
outsider

Gouverneur, NY

#84 Feb 1, 2013
school taxpayer wrote:
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What's up with all these Fowler parents on this thread, "calling people names" and "being so mean and sarcastic" to those who support the closing. Moron Wrangler is right, your children will know the negative feelings that their parents have about the other schools, and also they can see the bad attitude that their parents have. It is a bad influence!! The name calling is very immature.
I see it going both ways from what I am reading. There are a few threats mixed in here that you are agreeing with. You are sarcastic as the rest and instigating to the point where people will react in a negative way. You are sounding like a child yourself actually. With the crying about name calling I am searching for a way to categorize you. Let the BOE decide as they are not reading your posts as a guide to their decision - believe me.
school taxpayer

Ithaca, NY

#85 Feb 1, 2013
outsider wrote:
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I see it going both ways from what I am reading. There are a few threats mixed in here that you are agreeing with. You are sarcastic as the rest and instigating to the point where people will react in a negative way. You are sounding like a child yourself actually. With the crying about name calling I am searching for a way to categorize you. Let the BOE decide as they are not reading your posts as a guide to their decision - believe me.
I have not called any person a name during this discussion. I am making a point, and also, I do not have young children that I am influencing with a bad attitude. My children already went through school, and whatever reasonable choices, the administrators and the board made, when my children were in school, I did not make waves. We trusted their decisions. The young parents now, want their own way, and they show it with disrespect. Can't you see the difference in the generations??? It's obvious to most older people. Imagine what the next generation will be like. You can categorize me as a person with an opinion, agreeing with the board, wanting to cut down on taxes by closing an unnecessary school, and with an opinion that the parents are doing their children a disservice by complaining about the other schools, which they categorize as "not good enough" for their children.
outsider

Gouverneur, NY

#86 Feb 1, 2013
school taxpayer wrote:
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I have not called any person a name during this discussion. I am making a point, and also, I do not have young children that I am influencing with a bad attitude. My children already went through school, and whatever reasonable choices, the administrators and the board made, when my children were in school, I did not make waves. We trusted their decisions. The young parents now, want their own way, and they show it with disrespect. Can't you see the difference in the generations??? It's obvious to most older people. Imagine what the next generation will be like. You can categorize me as a person with an opinion, agreeing with the board, wanting to cut down on taxes by closing an unnecessary school, and with an opinion that the parents are doing their children a disservice by complaining about the other schools, which they categorize as "not good enough" for their children.
I don't think anyone is saying the other schools are not good enough. Parents should be able to decide what is best for their kids and you or I may not agree with it. Consolidation affects many. There are so many factors that this forum doesn't do it justice. There is a difference in the new generation, but they were allowed to grow that way by their influences and upbringing and they cannot be blamed for everything. The kids are the ones who will suffer and that is both the ones who have to move and the ones who are gaining more kids. It is a tough decision as you cannot put a price tag on a good education and I have to agree that the taxes are not going to magically get a huge relief by closing this school. That is answer that needs to be made clear. All in favor want lower taxes. We have layers or administration and other costs to look at. We have a 7 principals and two superindents in our 3 schools. A superindentent and a assistant superintendent. A principal at all three schools and Folwer has one that is part time. A high school, jr. high, middle school principal as well. When everyone brings up the past and the baby boomers...the never had layers of high paying jobs like that overseeing the kids. You can chop that down to size and save a lot right there. My two cents are all gone. Hope it works out for the best.
school taxpayer

Ithaca, NY

#87 Feb 1, 2013
outsider wrote:
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I don't think anyone is saying the other schools are not good enough. Parents should be able to decide what is best for their kids and you or I may not agree with it. Consolidation affects many. There are so many factors that this forum doesn't do it justice. There is a difference in the new generation, but they were allowed to grow that way by their influences and upbringing and they cannot be blamed for everything. The kids are the ones who will suffer and that is both the ones who have to move and the ones who are gaining more kids. It is a tough decision as you cannot put a price tag on a good education and I have to agree that the taxes are not going to magically get a huge relief by closing this school. That is answer that needs to be made clear. All in favor want lower taxes. We have layers or administration and other costs to look at. We have a 7 principals and two superindents in our 3 schools. A superindentent and a assistant superintendent. A principal at all three schools and Folwer has one that is part time. A high school, jr. high, middle school principal as well. When everyone brings up the past and the baby boomers...the never had layers of high paying jobs like that overseeing the kids. You can chop that down to size and save a lot right there. My two cents are all gone. Hope it works out for the best.
Why do you say the kids will suffer if they have to go to the East or West Side school?? Do you know that after 5th grade Fowler students transfer to the Jr. High/Middle School? Do you think that suffering occurs then too! Ridiculous! Here we go again, insinuating that Fowler is the best, and the other schools do not measure up. Any relief in taxes is a good thing, it does not have to be a huge relief. I do agree that there could be additional cuts, however know that with the mandates that come from Albany and the Fed. gov't, some cuts cannot be made.
A Fowler parent is the one that brought up the "Past" when she said, "If you did your homework, you would know that the public voted over 60 years ago to build Fowler school. The public voters should be the ones to decide on how the school budgets their money." Again, you cannot compare 60 years ago to 2013. Also, yes, most of the public voters, who should be the taxpayers, should have a say. And most of the taxpayers think that Fowler should be closed.
Moron Wrangler

Watertown, NY

#88 Feb 1, 2013
I would love to understand the mind that draws away from anything I said in my comments that I was, "threating their children. If you really believe that, you have a reading comprehension deficiency.

Sorry but I have to laugh at the folks who start out their comment by saying, "I'm not saying Fowler school is better than the East or West Side schools..." then continue to tell us how Fowler is better than the East and West Side schools.

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